Cons overuse “socialism “ so much that it has lost all meaning

[danielpalos]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

 

[TheDude]

on the daily there’s a bunch of threads here about “socialism “. Almost now of them have to deal with true socialism . Instead it becomes a slur for somthing they don’t like .

When confronted , cons can’t even define the word . Or even give coherent examples .

So I ask. What is “socialism”? . And what are examples of socialism in the US ?

As one example, socialism is the reduction of common people to the lowest common denominator. For example, in a socialist world we could all be like Timmy someday.

 

[Timmy]

The once mainstream Democrat has evolved so far to the left they lost their identity. Socialism, forms of socialist democracies, progressivism, or whatever one wishes to call it, is a proven failure in both economic and social terms. Centralized state controlled means of production, distribution, managed by the politically connected, for the benefit of the worker, downtrodden... is a farce, it only serves those connected. Today Europe is on the cusp of economic ruin, their shot at revitalizing individual state economies is rapidly coming to a close, negative interest rates, government mandated controls, entitlements, to name just a few, can not be undone. Simply put they have spent and taxed themselves into the abyss.The European experiment embraced by collegiate professors in the 1940's and now by the new democrat will fail in America and cost the American citizen their freedom and Constitutional rights. It took a long time, yet today has succeeded in replacing the work ethic and quest for freedom of those that built this country. Theory is great, reality resulting from adoption of failed theories sucks. There is no return once one has lost their freedom to choose and receive the fruits of labor and ingenuity. Face in up to now the Bernie Sanders of this country would not have been given the time of day, yet today we have an entire generation embracing a proven failed social and economic theory, they call it social justice. Baaaaa Baaaa!

Proven failure ? The most successful countries are social/democratic countries.

 

[Timmy]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

 

[Meathead]

The once mainstream Democrat has evolved so far to the left they lost their identity. Socialism, forms of socialist democracies, progressivism, or whatever one wishes to call it, is a proven failure in both economic and social terms. Centralized state controlled means of production, distribution, managed by the politically connected, for the benefit of the worker, downtrodden... is a farce, it only serves those connected. Today Europe is on the cusp of economic ruin, their shot at revitalizing individual state economies is rapidly coming to a close, negative interest rates, government mandated controls, entitlements, to name just a few, can not be undone. Simply put they have spent and taxed themselves into the abyss.The European experiment embraced by collegiate professors in the 1940's and now by the new democrat will fail in America and cost the American citizen their freedom and Constitutional rights. It took a long time, yet today has succeeded in replacing the work ethic and quest for freedom of those that built this country. Theory is great, reality resulting from adoption of failed theories sucks. There is no return once one has lost their freedom to choose and receive the fruits of labor and ingenuity. Face in up to now the Bernie Sanders of this country would not have been given the time of day, yet today we have an entire generation embracing a proven failed social and economic theory, they call it social justice. Baaaaa Baaaa!

Proven failure ? The most successful countries are social/democratic countries.

Socialism only works to a degree in small countries where people identify with each other like Denmark. It also works in families and small communities where people are willing to share their product for the very same reason. A country of 320 million where people define themselves in whatever grouping and sub-grouping they identify as has no chance.

America is far more a Venezuela or Russia than a Denmark. You are not only wrong, but very stupid as well.

 

[TheDude]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

More examples of socialism Timmy:

Your mother nearly had an abortion on the public's dime.

You're too lazy to work, so you receive welfare on the public's dime.

Elimination of the middle class. No State is more socialized than California, and they're leading a defined path toward a population of the very rich and very poor. Any chance you live in Ca. Timmy?

 

[Timmy]

The once mainstream Democrat has evolved so far to the left they lost their identity. Socialism, forms of socialist democracies, progressivism, or whatever one wishes to call it, is a proven failure in both economic and social terms. Centralized state controlled means of production, distribution, managed by the politically connected, for the benefit of the worker, downtrodden... is a farce, it only serves those connected. Today Europe is on the cusp of economic ruin, their shot at revitalizing individual state economies is rapidly coming to a close, negative interest rates, government mandated controls, entitlements, to name just a few, can not be undone. Simply put they have spent and taxed themselves into the abyss.The European experiment embraced by collegiate professors in the 1940's and now by the new democrat will fail in America and cost the American citizen their freedom and Constitutional rights. It took a long time, yet today has succeeded in replacing the work ethic and quest for freedom of those that built this country. Theory is great, reality resulting from adoption of failed theories sucks. There is no return once one has lost their freedom to choose and receive the fruits of labor and ingenuity. Face in up to now the Bernie Sanders of this country would not have been given the time of day, yet today we have an entire generation embracing a proven failed social and economic theory, they call it social justice. Baaaaa Baaaa!

Proven failure ? The most successful countries are social/democratic countries.

Socialism only works to a degree in small countries where people identify with each other like Denmark. It also works in families and small communities where people are willing to share their product for the very same reason. A country of 320 million where people define themselves in whatever grouping and sub-grouping they identify as has no chance.

America is far more a Venezuela or Russia than a Denmark. You are not only wrong, but very stupid as well.

Really? Cause I’d date US socialism back to the mid 1800s. And we’ve done OK.

 

[Timmy]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

More examples of socialism Timmy:

Your mother nearly had an abortion on the public's dime.

You're too lazy to work, so you receive welfare on the public's dime.

Elimination of the middle class. No State is more socialized than California, and they're leading a defined path toward a population of the very rich and very poor. Any chance you live in Ca. Timmy?

The great red state of Alaska is by the most socialized . Pretty much everything is subsidized by the government. Each Alaskan gets a yearly check from the gov!

 

[TheDude]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

 

[Timmy]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

Because . Righty rubes heads will explode if they must admit their beloved military and the VA are socialist programs . So they will just say it’s different, that is not socialism .

 

[TheDude]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

Because . Righty rubes heads will explode if they must admit their beloved military and the VA are socialist programs . So they will just say it’s different, that is not socialism .

Are you positive it's not you who doesn't grasp the definitions of socialism?

 

[Timmy]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

Because . Righty rubes heads will explode if they must admit their beloved military and the VA are socialist programs . So they will just say it’s different, that is not socialism .

Are you positive it's not you who doesn't grasp the definitions of socialism?

Well there’s the strict definition of gov control over X. Then there’s the common definition of government programs that assist the people of the country .

 

[Meathead]

The once mainstream Democrat has evolved so far to the left they lost their identity. Socialism, forms of socialist democracies, progressivism, or whatever one wishes to call it, is a proven failure in both economic and social terms. Centralized state controlled means of production, distribution, managed by the politically connected, for the benefit of the worker, downtrodden... is a farce, it only serves those connected. Today Europe is on the cusp of economic ruin, their shot at revitalizing individual state economies is rapidly coming to a close, negative interest rates, government mandated controls, entitlements, to name just a few, can not be undone. Simply put they have spent and taxed themselves into the abyss.The European experiment embraced by collegiate professors in the 1940's and now by the new democrat will fail in America and cost the American citizen their freedom and Constitutional rights. It took a long time, yet today has succeeded in replacing the work ethic and quest for freedom of those that built this country. Theory is great, reality resulting from adoption of failed theories sucks. There is no return once one has lost their freedom to choose and receive the fruits of labor and ingenuity. Face in up to now the Bernie Sanders of this country would not have been given the time of day, yet today we have an entire generation embracing a proven failed social and economic theory, they call it social justice. Baaaaa Baaaa!

Proven failure ? The most successful countries are social/democratic countries.

Socialism only works to a degree in small countries where people identify with each other like Denmark. It also works in families and small communities where people are willing to share their product for the very same reason. A country of 320 million where people define themselves in whatever grouping and sub-grouping they identify as has no chance.

America is far more a Venezuela or Russia than a Denmark. You are not only wrong, but very stupid as well.

Really? Cause I’d date US socialism back to the mid 1800s. And we’ve done OK.

Timmy boy, if you'd date socialism back to the 1800s then we have our wires crossed and this thread is pointless.

 

[DustyInfinity]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

Because . Righty rubes heads will explode if they must admit their beloved military and the VA are socialist programs . So they will just say it’s different, that is not socialism .

Are you positive it's not you who doesn't grasp the definitions of socialism?

Well there’s the strict definition of gov control over X. Then there’s the common definition of government programs that assist the people of the country .

That would be fine if you were helping people who couldn't help themselves, but that isn't what you are going for. You want to play Santa Claus with government and make the entire country poorer. I'll pass.

 

[Timmy]

The once mainstream Democrat has evolved so far to the left they lost their identity. Socialism, forms of socialist democracies, progressivism, or whatever one wishes to call it, is a proven failure in both economic and social terms. Centralized state controlled means of production, distribution, managed by the politically connected, for the benefit of the worker, downtrodden... is a farce, it only serves those connected. Today Europe is on the cusp of economic ruin, their shot at revitalizing individual state economies is rapidly coming to a close, negative interest rates, government mandated controls, entitlements, to name just a few, can not be undone. Simply put they have spent and taxed themselves into the abyss.The European experiment embraced by collegiate professors in the 1940's and now by the new democrat will fail in America and cost the American citizen their freedom and Constitutional rights. It took a long time, yet today has succeeded in replacing the work ethic and quest for freedom of those that built this country. Theory is great, reality resulting from adoption of failed theories sucks. There is no return once one has lost their freedom to choose and receive the fruits of labor and ingenuity. Face in up to now the Bernie Sanders of this country would not have been given the time of day, yet today we have an entire generation embracing a proven failed social and economic theory, they call it social justice. Baaaaa Baaaa!

Proven failure ? The most successful countries are social/democratic countries.

Socialism only works to a degree in small countries where people identify with each other like Denmark. It also works in families and small communities where people are willing to share their product for the very same reason. A country of 320 million where people define themselves in whatever grouping and sub-grouping they identify as has no chance.

America is far more a Venezuela or Russia than a Denmark. You are not only wrong, but very stupid as well.

Really? Cause I’d date US socialism back to the mid 1800s. And we’ve done OK.

Timmy boy, if you'd date socialism back to the 1800s then we have our wires crossed and this thread is pointless.

Western expansion = socialism.

Although it’s a real debateable question . “When did the US start being socialist “? I’m sure most would say the New Deal. But you could pick many points .

 

[TheDude]

the right wing doesn't care. they merely use the Word Socialism to appeal to emotion instead of reason. fallacy is all the right wing usually has.

Yes . When you hit them with real life examples , most just declare that it’s an exception to socialism.

For example : VA benefits for vets .

Timmy, you're so progressive. I can tell because you say shit just to say shit. Show us where someone explained how VA benefits are an exception to socialism? The accusation makes no sense. Good luck little Timmy.

Because . Righty rubes heads will explode if they must admit their beloved military and the VA are socialist programs . So they will just say it’s different, that is not socialism .

Are you positive it's not you who doesn't grasp the definitions of socialism?

Well there’s the strict definition of gov control over X. Then there’s the common definition of government programs that assist the people of the country .

Then there's turning people into zombies under entitlements, chasing off imagination and real progress, while taxing the shit out of people running from places like California.

 

[Muhammed]

on the daily there’s a bunch of threads here about “socialism “. Almost now of them have to deal with true socialism . Instead it becomes a slur for somthing they don’t like .

When confronted , cons can’t even define the word . Or even give coherent examples .

So I ask. What is “socialism”? . And what are examples of socialism in the US ?

How about if we start by noting the fact that a social safety net is not the same thing as socialism.

Well that depends how people define “socialism “ now does it? I’d say 90% of cons would consider that socialism .

Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

Definition of SOCIALISM

 

[danielpalos]

on the daily there’s a bunch of threads here about “socialism “. Almost now of them have to deal with true socialism . Instead it becomes a slur for somthing they don’t like .

When confronted , cons can’t even define the word . Or even give coherent examples .

So I ask. What is “socialism”? . And what are examples of socialism in the US ?

How about if we start by noting the fact that a social safety net is not the same thing as socialism.

Well that depends how people define “socialism “ now does it? I’d say 90% of cons would consider that socialism .

Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

Definition of SOCIALISM

Government is socialism.

 

[JWBooth]

The socialists stole the term "liberal" back in the 1920s, to try and disguise their true intentions.....They just can't admit what they are, now want to debase the language even more.

Another one .

Can’t define it or even give an example .

If you get a pizza with anchovies on it are you like “this pizza is socialism!” .

How about if we go with something else...

Freeloaders?

Looters?

Pirates?

Parasites?

That make you feel better, comrade?

Parasite should do nicely I think.

 

[danielpalos]

The socialists stole the term "liberal" back in the 1920s, to try and disguise their true intentions.....They just can't admit what they are, now want to debase the language even more.

Another one .

Can’t define it or even give an example .

If you get a pizza with anchovies on it are you like “this pizza is socialism!” .

How about if we go with something else...

Freeloaders?

Looters?

Pirates?

Parasites?

That make you feel better, comrade?

Parasite should do nicely I think.

tax cut economists, works.