Congress & obama

[bao]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Obama: Health care baton now passes to Senate - CNN.com

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congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

 

[WillowTree]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

why? which part.. the 500 billion dollar cut from medicare? denying seniors care? buy insurance or go to jail? or healthcare for illegals? or fine small business right the hell outta business which? or all?

 

[California Girl]

Gotta feel the love from Congress for the US Constitution.

Maybe someone ought to remind them of it. I'm wondering if an email campaign - sending each and every one of them a copy of said document is in order?

Of course, we'd also need to explain phrases such as 'general welfare' to the incompetent critters.

 

[The T]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

YOU didn't write this. Next time? Post a link.

 

[bao]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

why? which part.. the 500 billion dollar cut from medicare? denying seniors care? buy insurance or go to jail? or healthcare for illegals? or fine small business right the hell outta business which? or all?

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

 

[WillowTree]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

why? which part.. the 500 billion dollar cut from medicare? denying seniors care? buy insurance or go to jail? or healthcare for illegals? or fine small business right the hell outta business which? or all?

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

 

[bao]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

YOU didn't write this. Next time? Post a link.

I don't have 15 post's yet or i would

 

[JakeStarkey]

willow is such a card! What a wit!

I told you all who thought like you were irrelevant to the process, and you go and prove it.

 

[bao]

why? which part.. the 500 billion dollar cut from medicare? denying seniors care? buy insurance or go to jail? or healthcare for illegals? or fine small business right the hell outta business which? or all?

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

so you think Insurance company's have the right to do things like this?
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history
that's all i will say on this subject

 

[WillowTree]

willow is such a card! What a wit!

I told you all who thought like you were irrelevant to the process, and you go and prove it.

If I'm irrelevant why do you have to tell me? doyathink?

 

[WillowTree]

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

so you think Insurance company's have the right to do things like this?
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history
that's all i will say on this subject

doesn't your DUmmieness think that they could fix what's wrong with the Insurance companies without a 2000 page, 2 trillion dollar health care bill? What really makes you so DUmm is your willingness to wage classwarfare.. like you are entitled to the money other people make..

 

[The T]

willow is such a card! What a wit!

I told you all who thought like you were irrelevant to the process, and you go and prove it.

If I'm irrelevant why do you have to tell me? doyathink?

Jake's lost the argument...it shows...he projects his own irrelevence by trying to highlight yours

 

[California Girl]

willow is such a card! What a wit!

I told you all who thought like you were irrelevant to the process, and you go and prove it.

You should try to emulate Willow, Joke. Then maybe someone would find your posts something other than total drivel, you blithering idiot.

 

[California Girl]

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

so you think Insurance company's have the right to do things like this?
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history
that's all i will say on this subject

How about posting your fucking link? Now that you have the magic number.... Stop plagiarising - plagiarising is bad.

 

[bao]

doesn't your DUmmieness think that they could fix what's wrong with the Insurance companies without a 2000 page, 2 trillion dollar health care bill? What really makes you so DUmm is your willingness to wage classwarfare.. like you are entitled to the money other people make..

maybe your right i think they should give fine's to insurance company's who use these practices. As for spending 2 trillion dollar health care. I would rather spend it on health care than war. No i am not dum i just forgot to take my silly pill's today.

 

[WillowTree]

doesn't your DUmmieness think that they could fix what's wrong with the Insurance companies without a 2000 page, 2 trillion dollar health care bill? What really makes you so DUmm is your willingness to wage classwarfare.. like you are entitled to the money other people make..

maybe your right i think they should give fine's to insurance company's who use these practices. As for spending 2 trillion dollar health care. I would rather spend it on health care than war. No i am not dum i just forgot to take my silly pill's today.

well as it is, your guy, after telling us the first thing he would do when elected was to bring the troops home, is now waging two wars with no end in sight, violence in both Iraq and Afghanistan is escalating, so if you had rather spend yer money on health care you better write the messiah.. quickley.

 

[Big Black Dog]

President Obama on Sunday praised the "historic" House vote to pass a bill overhauling the nation's ailing health care system, and said now it is time for the Senate to "take the baton" and complete its work.

The House passed its health care bill late Saturday night by a 220-215 vote, with 39 Democrats in opposition and one Republican supporting it. Senate approval is considered less certain due to opposition by all Republicans and some moderate Democrats.

Obama called the support by many House members "courageous" in the face of what he called "the heated and often misleading rhetoric around this legislation."

The overhaul legislation would be the biggest expansion of health care coverage since Medicare was created more than 40 years ago.

The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.


congress & obama did some thing right for a change. I liked this health care bill from the start.

why? which part.. the 500 billion dollar cut from medicare? denying seniors care? buy insurance or go to jail? or healthcare for illegals? or fine small business right the hell outta business which? or all?

How do you feel about socialism? Like that too along with the health care bill Pelosi and gang are trying to ram down our throats? Neither Congress or Obama is worth the amount of gunpowder it would take to blow them all up. I have my doubts that what they are trying to do is even allowed by the Constitution. How can the government mandate a person to buy anything let along health care insurance? Our country goes down the toilet more and more every day.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I think these parts are great
restricts insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford health insurance. And it guarantees coverage for 96 percent of Americans
plus it taxes people with incomes over $

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

so you think Insurance company's have the right to do things like this?
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history
that's all i will say on this subject

Insurance companies do not deny coverage to people with pre existing conditions. They simply charge them higher premiums to cover their higher medical expenses. By insisting everyone be insured at standard rates, this bill, in effect, mandates that standard rates will have to be increased so that everyone who now has health insurance will have to pay more for it to subsidize the higher medical bills for people with pre existing conditions. Far from being a progressive solution to the problem of higher premiums for people with pre existing conditions, this bill means that some one who earns $50,000 a year will have to pay more for his insurance so that some one with a pre existing condition who earns $500,000 can pay less.

The individual mandate will somewhat offset the higher health insurance premiums this reform will cause, but we know from Massachusetts' experience that health insurance premiums will still increase because of this bill. A cheaper and more progressive solution would be to have sliding scale subsidies to help people with pre existing conditions so the rest of us don't have to pay more to subsidize high earners with pre existing conditions. Because this would keep insurance premiums lower, less money would be needed for subsidies for low earners. Even if you agree with what it is trying to do, almost nothing in this bill is good policy.

 

[bao]

doesn't your DUmmieness think that they could fix what's wrong with the Insurance companies without a 2000 page, 2 trillion dollar health care bill? What really makes you so DUmm is your willingness to wage classwarfare.. like you are entitled to the money other people make..

maybe your right i think they should give fine's to insurance company's who use these practices. As for spending 2 trillion dollar health care. I would rather spend it on health care than war. No i am not dum i just forgot to take my silly pill's today.

well as it is, your guy, after telling us the first thing he would do when elected was to bring the troops home, is now waging two wars with no end in sight, violence in both Iraq and Afghanistan is escalating, so if you had rather spend yer money on health care you better write the messiah.. quickley.

As far as obama being my guy i dont think so. I could not bring myself to vote for him. No i am not muslim so i wont pray to the messiah.

Excuse me,, but your DUmmieness is hanging out.

so you think Insurance company's have the right to do things like this?
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history
that's all i will say on this subject

Insurance companies do not deny coverage to people with pre existing conditions. They simply charge them higher premiums to cover their higher medical expenses. By insisting everyone be insured at standard rates, this bill, in effect, mandates that standard rates will have to be increased so that everyone who now has health insurance will have to pay more for it to subsidize the higher medical bills for people with pre existing conditions. Far from being a progressive solution to the problem of higher premiums for people with pre existing conditions, this bill means that some one who earns $50,000 a year will have to pay more for his insurance so that some one with a pre existing condition who earns $500,000 can pay less.

The individual mandate will somewhat offset the higher health insurance premiums this reform will cause, but we know from Massachusetts' experience that health insurance premiums will still increase because of this bill. A cheaper and more progressive solution would be to have sliding scale subsidies to help people with pre existing conditions so the rest of us don't have to pay more to subsidize high earners with pre existing conditions. Because this would keep insurance premiums lower, less money would be needed for subsidies for low earners. Even if you agree with what it is trying to do, almost nothing in this bill is good policy.

After reading the bill for 8 hours i agee with you all. But here is my story. I have and injury from a couple years ago my doctor informed me that he will not do the xrays or surgery because the insurance company may not cover it. This limit's my working ability. Sure they can raise my premiums but i feel i still have the right to have the surgery done regardless of it being a pre existing condition & so should every one else

 

[rightwinger]

Gotta feel the love from Congress for the US Constitution.

Maybe someone ought to remind them of it. I'm wondering if an email campaign - sending each and every one of them a copy of said document is in order?

Of course, we'd also need to explain phrases such as 'general welfare' to the incompetent critters.

Have any proof that anything in this bill violates the Constitution? Lucky for you our system allows you to question the Constutionality of this bill. I encourage you to file a challenge if you feel so strongly.

If you don't have true objections, why don't you just Bitch on a message board?