Communism

If we see the rise of the automated society envisioned today, with a robotic workforce...we will have no choice but to adopt some even more socialism.
Why are so many going on about the goddamn robots? We'll all be dead before that becomes a reality.

Communism is the elimination of private ownership. By what measure were native Americans communists? Go tell chief Screaming Eagle you want your turn wearing his outfit. Capitalism is the economic results in a free society. When man loses private property rights, he is property.
 
If we see the rise of the automated society envisioned today, with a robotic workforce...we will have no choice but to adopt some even more socialism.
Why are so many going on about the goddamn robots? We'll all be dead before that becomes a reality.

Communism is the elimination of private ownership. By what measure were native Americans communists? Go tell chief Screaming Eagle you want your turn wearing his outfit. Capitalism is the economic results in a free society. When man loses private property rights, he is property.


In 20 years my company will be obsolete...it's a guarantee. I'll be retired by then, likely having sold my power units to companies that will ship them overseas...but the next generation of American owner/operators and small fleet owners will be out in the cold. A new Freightliner costs $150,000 today...imagine what a self driving truck costs to own, much less what it costs to maintain.

It's a fact, whether you wish to accept it or not.

The onset of automated services like robots and self-driving vehicles hold the promise of making so many aspects of our lives easier, but that convenience will come at a cost. Experts are predicting fundamental changes to the job market in the next 20 years, as robotic and automated services take the place of jobs once performed by people.

According to a new report by Rachel Nuwer at the BBC, truck drivers are likely to become one of the first endangered occupations due to advances in self-driving technologies, and the elimination of this one role alone has the potential to cause major upheaval in the American job market.

In the latest figures provided by the American Trucking Associations, the nation’s trucking industry employs more than 7 million people in total, with 3.4 million being drivers and the rest in ancillary positions that don’t entail being behind the wheel. Those are some huge numbers, but even more astonishing is this graph based on 2014 US census data, which highlights just how fundamental the occupation is in the US workforce: truck driver is the most common job in 29 US states.

Self-driving trucks could cost as many as 7 million jobs in the US alone

 
true.

because a true communist state in an industrial society is pretty much an impossibility.
what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred
Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

probably not.... which is why I think the combination of capitalism and socialism, fine-tuned to serve our modern world, are probably the best way to manage a country....and seems to be successful elsewhere.
I agree. Full fledged capitalism is how we got too big to fail lol.

and how we got the great disparity in wealth that exists now in this country....

very interesting topic. thank you for the good conversation.
 
If we see the rise of the automated society envisioned today, with a robotic workforce...we will have no choice but to adopt some even more socialism.
Why are so many going on about the goddamn robots? We'll all be dead before that becomes a reality.

Communism is the elimination of private ownership. By what measure were native Americans communists? Go tell chief Screaming Eagle you want your turn wearing his outfit. Capitalism is the economic results in a free society. When man loses private property rights, he is property.


In 20 years my company will be obsolete...it's a guarantee. I'll be retired by then, likely having sold my power units to companies that will ship them overseas...but the next generation of American owner/operators and small fleet owners will be out in the cold. A new Freightliner costs $150,000 today...imagine what a self driving truck costs to own, much less what it costs to maintain.

It's a fact, whether you wish to accept it or not.

The onset of automated services like robots and self-driving vehicles hold the promise of making so many aspects of our lives easier, but that convenience will come at a cost. Experts are predicting fundamental changes to the job market in the next 20 years, as robotic and automated services take the place of jobs once performed by people.

According to a new report by Rachel Nuwer at the BBC, truck drivers are likely to become one of the first endangered occupations due to advances in self-driving technologies, and the elimination of this one role alone has the potential to cause major upheaval in the American job market.

In the latest figures provided by the American Trucking Associations, the nation’s trucking industry employs more than 7 million people in total, with 3.4 million being drivers and the rest in ancillary positions that don’t entail being behind the wheel. Those are some huge numbers, but even more astonishing is this graph based on 2014 US census data, which highlights just how fundamental the occupation is in the US workforce: truck driver is the most common job in 29 US states.

Self-driving trucks could cost as many as 7 million jobs in the US alone

A fact, provided by speculations of an op-ed source? Yeah, right. The point is that hand wringing about shit that will happen long after you are dead seems like a waste of time to me. Knock yourself out though...
 
what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred
Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

probably not.... which is why I think the combination of capitalism and socialism, fine-tuned to serve our modern world, are probably the best way to manage a country....and seems to be successful elsewhere.
I agree. Full fledged capitalism is how we got too big to fail lol.

and how we got the great disparity in wealth that exists now in this country....

very interesting topic. thank you for the good conversation.
We've always had a great disparity of wealth, how is this news to you?
 
fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred
Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

probably not.... which is why I think the combination of capitalism and socialism, fine-tuned to serve our modern world, are probably the best way to manage a country....and seems to be successful elsewhere.
I agree. Full fledged capitalism is how we got too big to fail lol.

and how we got the great disparity in wealth that exists now in this country....

very interesting topic. thank you for the good conversation.
We've always had a great disparity of wealth, how is this news to you?

not like this.

but you already know that.
 
Now I wonder if US troops will not attack Sweden I wanted the opposite for 1 or 2 days late . Mean to Sweden and I wonder if I sorted this out now when Sweden could have loses against US troops by 2 or 3 times more than Sweden's southern troops. Sweden stands close to the US and this is now settled. But not NATO member still.

I liked NATO and Sweden mostly.
 
US is part of NATO, including the presidential election in 2016 is an important point in my NATO stance. US accounts for 50 per cent of NATO 's creation of a North American and European alliance in the military , Turkey, the Middle East , which is important strategic point for NATO. With 5000 troops first big forces since Georgia war 2008 near NATO help Georgia med 3 eller 4Tousand troops. 5000 troops on way in Libya, it is records in NATO so far.
 
Islamic State will recruit or only 3000 ground forces.

It's not enough to win vs Libya + NATO force.
 
It is all over world communists against me in A battle fight and they want's my godfather take me in A fight because I don't care about Nazis but I like Nazis much more than communists over world. Communists are afraid I am Swedish. Also Swedish communists my quest far away. I blame one serb in Facebook before because I believed it was he who were against me last ten years. All communists against me it is over all world but I never visit Russia and China till exampel. Communism is poor spieces of worlds. I never will be ones. I never like Sovet Union to. And Finland have poor communists in there country and Sweden have more fun with race and Christians. Racists have more fun than communists + communists only like sex life but I am one who like eating food till exampel and Alcoholic, Sports och Music. No women for me even I like maybe 5 to 15 women in my village but that never help me for sex. I have 6 inch cock. The girls only will have anal sex with me but never will happens. Jesus Christ will no long cock for me. It not only communists how will have long cock.
 

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