Communism

[Unkotare]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

The same reason Socialism always fails and Communism will never really ('really,' happy now?) happen.

So you cant explain why communists would go to war?......

I did. Don't tell me a super-genius like you who knows the difference between Socialism and Communism can't tell what I meant.

 

[TNHarley]

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

The same reason Socialism always fails and Communism will never really ('really,' happy now?) happen.

So you cant explain why communists would go to war?......

I did. Don't tell me a super-genius like you who knows the difference between Socialism and Communism can't tell what I meant.

I thought I did. It was in that part you left out.
I might be arrogant at times, but I am quit aware of my faults and I am no genius. but thanks for the compliment

 

[Unkotare]

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt [sic] pedantry at all. ....

Of course it is. That is the motivation behind your harping on this endlessly over several threads.

So I guess it is pedantry to establish the differences between cars and trucks?

It's dangerous to love yourself so much without wearing a condom.

I find it weird that a philosopher has no respect for meanings of words.......

It's too complicated for you to understand right now. When you are ready, it will become clear.

 

[TNHarley]

So basically, you have nothing. Got it.

 

[Unkotare]

So basically, you have nothing. Got it.

So, the Swami of Semantics really can't understand my statement?

 

[TNHarley]

 

[Missourian]

If we see the rise of the automated society envisioned today, with a robotic workforce...we will have no choice but to adopt some even more socialism.

 

[TNHarley]

If we see the rise of the automated society envisioned today, with a robotic workforce...we will have no choice but to adopt some even more socialism.

Probably so. And massive failure will follow. And probably genocide.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

war would be eliminated. No need to fight for natural resources or religion.

Why would people stop fighting for resources?

wasteful production would be limited. Ergo, we would be more environmentally stable. So-to-speak.

wasteful production would be limited.

Why do you feel that?

 

[TNHarley]

war would be eliminated. No need to fight for natural resources or religion.

Why would people stop fighting for resources?

wasteful production would be limited. Ergo, we would be more environmentally stable. So-to-speak.

wasteful production would be limited.

Why do you feel that?

Basic communism

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

production is planned democratically with aims at providing for people rather than profit.

How do you "plan production democratically"?

 

[Unkotare]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt [sic] pedantry at all. ....

Of course it is. That is the motivation behind your harping on this endlessly over several threads.

So I guess it is pedantry to establish the differences between cars and trucks?

When the real point is the dangerous direction both are driving in, yes.

 

[TNHarley]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

production is planned democratically with aims at providing for people rather than profit.

How do you "plan production democratically"?

Are you really interested, or are you just being an ass? lol

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

true.

because a true communist state in an industrial society is pretty much an impossibility.

what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred

Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production.

Who decides what is wasteful? Based on what?

Our industry would shrink massively.

We'd be a lot poorer, but at least we'd be less wasteful.
Oh boy, stop your hard sell. LOL!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia is better outside communism.

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

production is planned democratically with aims at providing for people rather than profit.

How do you "plan production democratically"?

Are you really interested, or are you just being an ass? lol

Yes. The more you explain your idea, the easier it is to point out the flaws.

 

[TNHarley]

Russia has never been communist

true.

because a true communist state in an industrial society is pretty much an impossibility.

what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred

Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production.

Who decides what is wasteful? Based on what?

Our industry would shrink massively.

We'd be a lot poorer, but at least we'd be less wasteful.
Oh boy, stop your hard sell. LOL!

Poor wouldnt be a concept in communism.
lol im not trying to sell it. I am not a communist. I am simply pointing out it isn't all that bad.

 

[TNHarley]

Russia has never been communist

Your paltry pursuit of pedantry is pretentious and pathetic, pal.

That isnt pedantry at all. Socialism and communism are two sides of different coins.
Are you going to explain why communists would go to war?

production is planned democratically with aims at providing for people rather than profit.

How do you "plan production democratically"?

Are you really interested, or are you just being an ass? lol

Yes. The more you explain your idea, the easier it is to point out the flaws.

I didn't say it was perfect. I didn't say I wanted it.
I will explain in the morning. I am out of time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

true.

because a true communist state in an industrial society is pretty much an impossibility.

what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred

Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production.

Who decides what is wasteful? Based on what?

Our industry would shrink massively.

We'd be a lot poorer, but at least we'd be less wasteful.
Oh boy, stop your hard sell. LOL!

Poor wouldnt be a concept in communism.
lol im not trying to sell it. I am not a communist. I am simply pointing out it isn't all that bad.

Poor wouldnt be a concept in communism.

No kidding, it'd be a requirement.

 

[Unkotare]

what do you mean by industrial state?

fair question. native americans were able to share the way they did because they were small societies. small groups of people who were able to pool resources and share risks.

our industrial societies are massive. there aren't the same societal controls on behavior which would require that everyone pitch in and be equals.

but truth, even indigenous people, which lived as close to communism as we've seen, had a tribal government and leadership to which the community deferred

Yes!
However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production. Our industry would shrink massively.
That's a very good point about population. In fact, it is an argument I use lol
Large scale communism wouldnt work, probably. HOWEVER, would any "full scale" economic theory work?

However, one of the basic principles of communism is to delete wasteful production.

Who decides what is wasteful? Based on what?

Our industry would shrink massively.

We'd be a lot poorer, but at least we'd be less wasteful.
Oh boy, stop your hard sell. LOL!

Poor wouldnt be a concept in communism.
lol im not trying to sell it. I am not a communist. I am simply pointing out it isn't all that bad.

Poor wouldnt be a concept in communism.

No kidding, it'd be a requirement.

That's true, actually.

 

[Unkotare]

Human beings are violent, aggressive, greedy, lazy, and selfish; always have been, always will be. If this were not true, our greatest virtues would not exist either.



Because this is true, Communism can never work.