Colorado tries to find middle ground in the gay rights issue

[G.T.]

Heres some middle ground:

Let BOTH gays and straights legally marry.

Anything other than that, is not "middle," its window dressed "treat our bigotry with kids gloves pweez."

 

[BluesLegend]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

 

[G.T.]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

Christians want to engage in public commerce while also avoiding anti bigotry public accommodations laws??

 

[candycorn]

This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:

Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times

The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.

The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.

That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.

Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?

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How about just minding your own business and not worrying about who your neighbor is marrying or seeing?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

No, they want them to do their jobs, what they do to earn the money. How unreasonable of those faggots...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

Christians want to engage in public commerce while also avoiding anti bigotry public accommodations laws??

They are More Holy Than Thou apparently.

 

[martybegan]

This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:

Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times

The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.

The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.

That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.

Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?

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The first one has been settled. Over and done with. Move on.

With regards to the second one, that one is settled too. Just bake the fucking cake. I'm sure your god will forgive you for serving a fag, as long as you weren't cordial to him.

What a miserable human being you are, and a fascist to boot.

 

[g5000]

It's political theater for the base.

Exactly.

 

[mdk]

It is very likely these laws will go anywhere.

 

[G.T.]

This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:

Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times

The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.

The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.

That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.

Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?

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The first one has been settled. Over and done with. Move on.

With regards to the second one, that one is settled too. Just bake the fucking cake. I'm sure your god will forgive you for serving a fag, as long as you weren't cordial to him.

What a miserable human being you are, and a fascist to boot.

Its only fascist if the owner didnt voluntarily in u.s. public commerce.

 

[martybegan]

Reading the second- yeah this is not actually going to happen either

The second measure would require the state to maintain a list of businesses willing to provide services to same-sex and transgender couples, so that those opposed could contract with them.

Imagine if Colorado passed a law requiring the state to maintain a list of business's willing to provide services to African Americans?

Or to Jews?

Or to Native Americans?

Would those be 'compromises'?

or we can just let people refuse to provide non-necessary services like this at their discretion, and be done with it. Let the market handle it.

see my last post.

And see MY last one. Most of the other groups are A-OK with going to people who WANT to provide such services, it seems recently gays are the ones who are deciding everyone has to service them of be fined into oblivion.

"it seems' because they are the ones getting the press.

Others have used the laws over time and for the same purpose- pretty common for handicapped to use the law.

Justice Department Settles Disability Discrimination Case Involving Disabled Veteran in Utah

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department today announced a $20,000 consent decree that resolves a lawsuit alleging that a Park City, Utah, condominium association and its management company violated the Fair Housing Act by refusing to grant a resident’s request for a reasonable accommodation.


The lawsuit, filed on Nov. 21, 2011, in U.S. District Court for the District of Utah, alleges that the Fox Point at Redstone Association, Property Management Systems and on-site property manager Derek Peterson refused to grant a reasonable accommodation so that Thomas Burton, a disabled combat veteran of the first Gulf War, could keep a small dog in the condominium he rented to help him cope with the effects of depression and anxiety disorder. The lawsuit further alleges that the defendants refused to waive their pet fees and insurance requirements and issued multiple fines that eventually led to the non-renewal of Burton’s lease.


Under the consent decree, which was entered by the U.S. District Court in Utah, the defendants will pay $20,000 in monetary relief to Burton. Additionally, the defendants will attend fair housing training; implement a new reasonable accommodation policy that does not charge pet fees to owners of service or assistance animals and does not require them to purchase liability insurance; and comply with notice, monitoring and reporting requirements.

That's the best you can do? Really? A condo Associations fight over dogs?

 

[G.T.]

Voluntarily Engage**

 

[martybegan]

This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:

Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times

The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.

The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.

That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.

Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?

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The first one has been settled. Over and done with. Move on.

With regards to the second one, that one is settled too. Just bake the fucking cake. I'm sure your god will forgive you for serving a fag, as long as you weren't cordial to him.

What a miserable human being you are, and a fascist to boot.

Its only fascist if the owner didnt voluntarily in u.s. public commerce.

Can you try replying in English?

 

[BluesLegend]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

Christians want to engage in public commerce while also avoiding anti bigotry public accommodations laws??

Get real punk, you can refuse service for a whole bunch of reasons including militant gays who are targeting your business and trying to destroy you.

 

[martybegan]

If you are a straight, and are getting married for the fourth time, you have always been able to get a wedding cake. Therefore, a STRAIGHT ONLY bakery is not bible-compliant at all.

So let's stop pretending this has anything to do with religion, and admit it has everything to do with being bigoted, hateful assholes.

You just can't function in a world where people can have different viewpoints that yours, can you? You have make names for it, and use government to force your views on them.

It's childish.

 

[G.T.]

This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:

Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times

The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.

The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.

That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.

Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?

.

The first one has been settled. Over and done with. Move on.

With regards to the second one, that one is settled too. Just bake the fucking cake. I'm sure your god will forgive you for serving a fag, as long as you weren't cordial to him.

What a miserable human being you are, and a fascist to boot.

Its only fascist if the owner didnt voluntarily in u.s. public commerce.

Can you try replying in English?

Oh boy

 

[G.T.]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

Christians want to engage in public commerce while also avoiding anti bigotry public accommodations laws??

Get real punk, you can refuse service for a whole bunch of reasons including militant gays who are targeting your business and trying to destroy you.

According to what?

"Get real punk?"

Lolol

 

[martybegan]

Hey folks, I get it. All or nothing.

I get the same responses from the Tea Partiers.

The similarities are amusing.

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When your only goal is to punish, why compromise?

 

[BluesLegend]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

No, they want them to do their jobs, what they do to earn the money. How unreasonable of those faggots...

No shoes, no shirt, no service a very common practice in many a business. In the USA we still have a right to tell militant gays targeting our businesses to fuck off!

 

[martybegan]

Gays want the legal right to intentionally target Christians and sue them so no there's no middle ground.

Christians want to engage in public commerce while also avoiding anti bigotry public accommodations laws??

Where in the constitution does it state you automatically lose your rights when you try to sell something?