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Students do get paid if they have smarts. It's called GRANTS.First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
One time I heard that if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he hopped.Students do get paid if they have smarts. It's called GRANTS.First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
And what are "smarts." One time I heard about a couple of educated parents who decided to make their child a genius. Which they did. But one time when he was about 14 he was giving a lecture on 4th dimensional mathematics. Where from time to time he would laugh inappropriately. He ended up giving up on "smarts" and spent the rest of his life collecting subway tokens.
What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
If we're going to offer free college that means it's everyone's right to attend the college of their choice correct?
*****CHUCKLE*****
I would have to first see what France and Germany does. But as long as you are getting a quality education, why would it matter. But if there is some university that has superior equipment, I would be more inclined to send the most gifted students there.
If you like France and Germany so much, go. Move on. I'm sure they will welcome you. In case you haven't noticed, this is not France, or Germany.
While I am not entirely knowledgeable about France, I do know that Germany has an education system that fosters both academic and trade-based education.
Why move there. Michale Moore already invaded them and brought the spoils back here. All we have to do is use them. For example, he showed in his documentary that school kids in Finland are among the best educated in the world. If not THE best educated. He brought back the "spoils" of how they did that. Would you like to know? They eliminated homework! And in the vast majority of cases, their tests don't have multiple choices like ours have.
I'm curious. How old are you?
Get the money from the same god dammed place that places like France and Germany get it!
It should be quite a trick for the US government to come up with the 50-100 trillion dollars needed to send all the +200 million people to college.
Has the government discovered a way to turn lead into to gold?
While we're at it who's going to be doing all the hard labor while everyone is being educated?
*****CHUCKLE*****
College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
wherewoofWhat socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
Where would gov't get the money for the subsidies?
wherewoofWhat socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
Get the money from the same god dammed place that places like France and Germany get it!
It should be quite a trick for the US government to come up with the 50-100 trillion dollars needed to send all the +200 million people to college.
Has the government discovered a way to turn lead into to gold?
While we're at it who's going to be doing all the hard labor while everyone is being educated?
*****CHUCKLE*****
If you don't want to be serious, go bother someone else.
College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
Where would gov't get the money for the subsidies?
The same place it does now. Pretend it into existence. Also, the U.S. has something like 180 billion in gold. I bet that is more than France or Germany has. But they can afford it. However they do it. All the U.S. needs to do is do the same.
And Playstation 4. That should totally be free so those free college folk have something to do besides get drunk and screw.....
If students had the money to pay for actual recreational activities, chances are they wouldn't be wasting their time on video games.
I daresay, you and I have very different ideas about the definition of parasites. I agree on some of your definitions, but would add others, as well. What greater abilities would you reward? If some professions were rewarded at a greater extent than others, who would grow and process the food that all those doctors and engineers would need to eat? Do you agree that farmers should be rewarded more richly than engineers? After all, without farmers, no one else would be able to pursue their chosen occupations.What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
Oh, by-the-way, Karl Marx came up with the "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" thingy. You know, the original "living wage", "income equality" guy.What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
The author of the OP is on vacation.Oh, by-the-way, Karl Marx came up with the "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" thingy. You know, the original "living wage", "income equality" guy.What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
I daresay, you and I have very different ideas about the definition of parasites. I agree on some of your definitions, but would add others, as well. What greater abilities would you reward? If some professions were rewarded at a greater extent than others, who would grow and process the food that all those doctors and engineers would need to eat? Do you agree that farmers should be rewarded more richly than engineers? After all, without farmers, no one else would be able to pursue their chosen occupations.What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
I think education is of the utmost importance, but I don't believe that higher education should be free. It should be cost prohibitive if for no other reason than to weed out those who aren't serious or intelligent enough to hack it. And let's face it, most people are too dumb for college. If you said we should add more vocational teaching to our k-12 system, or even that we should have free post-12 vocational schools, I'd be more open to the idea, but the last thing we need is double digit IQ flunkies creating a massive tax burden just to get degrees that are fun or easy enough for them to hack, but don't actually improve their economic value to society. A massive tax investment in bullshit degrees for people working as warehouse lumpers or bank tellers is a HOLY SHIT RETARDED investment.
Ahyup!!I daresay, you and I have very different ideas about the definition of parasites. I agree on some of your definitions, but would add others, as well. What greater abilities would you reward? If some professions were rewarded at a greater extent than others, who would grow and process the food that all those doctors and engineers would need to eat? Do you agree that farmers should be rewarded more richly than engineers? After all, without farmers, no one else would be able to pursue their chosen occupations.What socialist backwater do you hail from? Doctors and engineers, etc, should be paid the same as the most humble laborer. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Of course, pols require, and deserve, much larger portions. Where is your summer dacha, Komrad?First, free for whom? Are college professors going to work gratis, just to ensure that everyone gets a college degree? And how will universities be funded? Do you expect alumni to kick in to pay for facilities, rent, taxes, etc? "Free" for whom?
If you are all in for the European model, why not require 14-yr-olds decide whether to pursue academic or trade careers? Not everyone is made for academic degrees. Lots, and lots of kids, do far better with hands-on, trade-type careers.
Unfortunately, anything the government pays for is NOT free. The taxpayer foots the bill. Since I am a taxpayer, and my taxes are intended to foot the bill for "free" college, don't you think I should have some voice in just how that "free" education is parceled out?
Students should be PAID to go to college. If the U.S. is getting short on doctors, engineers or something, sweeten the pot a little to get 14 year olds to decide to take that path. Next, do you know WHY the U.S. is in such a shitstorm? Because the voice you do have IS shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that the American worker has to work harder and longer, and pay more in taxes, to receive far less that what people in many other developed countries receive. That isn't a fairy story. It is a fact! Now what do you have to say.
Whatever gave you that idea. Of course those with greater ability should be given more. But there has to be limits. Another thing I would do is take money away from the useless parasites who contribute nothing tangible to the human condition. Such as slum lords, insurance workers, people who calculate derivatives at some financial institution, etc. etc. etc.
I read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. It is heavy reading but what it boils down to is Agriculture creates wealth.
I agree that vocational opportunities should be considered and integrated into our educational system options. Not all, actually, most, jobs are better served with an apprenticeship/journeyman/master type program than the typical US-style college/university meme. Unfortunately, we have allowed ourselves to be sold a bill of goods that emphasizes classical academic education and denigrates a more hands-on, practical approach to job training. Of course, the university setting facilitates the liberal/progressive propagandizing of young people, so the university/college (typical liberal propaganda centers) setting is emphasized. So, eventually, we'll have loads of people using the toilets and lights but no one qualified to install/repair either the plumbing or the electricity.College should be more free than a high school education is. We should actually pay students to go to college. Because though you can expect young adults to live at home when they go to high school, I wouldn't expect them to do the same when they are going to college. If a higher education has value, then it would be a benefit to society in general. Therefore making it worthy of something for the government to subsidize. Instead of expecting students to roll the dice when it comes to finding a job afterward with a huge student debt to pay off. France and Germany have free college education. And no doubt many other countries. The U.S. should too. I bet if this guy was running the U.S., we would have.
I think education is of the utmost importance, but I don't believe that higher education should be free. It should be cost prohibitive if for no other reason than to weed out those who aren't serious or intelligent enough to hack it. And let's face it, most people are too dumb for college. If you said we should add more vocational teaching to our k-12 system, or even that we should have free post-12 vocational schools, I'd be more open to the idea, but the last thing we need is double digit IQ flunkies creating a massive tax burden just to get degrees that are fun or easy enough for them to hack, but don't actually improve their economic value to society. A massive tax investment in bullshit degrees for people working as warehouse lumpers or bank tellers is a HOLY SHIT RETARDED investment.
