College football is coming!!

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    Less than 90 days until college football blesses us again.

    My Alabama Crimson Tide is looking good again. But next year will bring us an interesting competition. For the QB spot.

    Anyone who watched the final game of the Championship playoffs saw the coming out party for Tua Tagovailoa. The kid rocked it! Jalen Hurts may still see some playing time, after all he is 25-2. But two commits for the 2019 class are newsworthy.

    Taulia Tagovailoa is Tua's little brother and is supposed to be just as talented and just as coachable. He committed to Alabama.

    Another newsworthy commit is Paul Tyson, ranked the #12 pro-style QB in his class. At 6'4" he has the height, and with college level training he can add some weight to boost his 210 frame. But the newsworthy part is his heritage. He is the grandson of Paul 'Bear' Bryant.


    Saban's defenses are always tough. The depth for RB is great. And the QBs are looking better and better.

    Looks like another great year at The Capstone!
     
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    Does it bother you at all that...

    ...very few of the players on most of the teams have any business being "in" college? Or being at the college for which they play?

    ...few of the players will graduate? Or even if they do graduate, they will have a degree that is economically worthless - one that was created merely to give the illusion that student-athletes are actual college students?

    ...No country outside the U.S. has anything like Division I sports? Indeed, the very idea of colleges and universities placing so much emphasis on something having nothing to do with education is bizarre to the ROW.

    ...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

    The NFL should be required to form minor leagues - like MLB - that recruit, train, nurture, and PAY developing athletes who do not belong in college, and have no real interest in going to college (other than the nookie). The NCAA could force the issue.

    If only they had any interest in education.

    Don't make me laugh.
     
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    Does it bother you that you are blatantly wrong?

    Does it bother you that you could have found the truth via Google.

    First of all, the Alabama football program graduates players at a higher rate than the national average for all college students.

    One of the areas which coach Saban pushes hard is their education. It is something he is known for.

    As for your claim that "few will graduate", perhaps you should look for the facts instead of just spouting your prejudices. Perhaps you could have found out that the University of Alabama holds the record for most graduate suiting up for a bowl game.

    Here is some additional information to help you remedy your ignorance.
    "Dec. 29, 2015
    DALLAS -
    When the Alabama football team takes the field Thursday for the 80th Cotton Bowl, there will be a program and national-record 29 Crimson Tide players suited up who have already earned their degree, including three that have earned their master's degree.

    The Tide's 29 graduates breaks the previous national mark of 28 that played for Alabama in the 2014 Sugar Bowl against Oklahoma. This year's Tide total means that more 20-percent of those wearing the crimson and white of Alabama in the Cotton Bowl have at least one college degree already in hand. The Tide's Cotton Bowl graduate tally is three ahead of second place Temple and seven ahead of third-place Kansas State. Clemson is the closest squad in the College Football Playoff with 15.

    In addition to leading the nation in graduates on a bowl roster, the Tide also has the highest Graduation Success Rate among the four teams selected for this year's College Football Playoff. When the GSR was announced by the NCAA in October, the Tide football program produced a score of 86 while Clemson posted an 84, Michigan State a 66 and Oklahoma a 65. This year's Cotton Bowl also marks the seventh straight year that the Crimson Tide has suited up more than 20 graduates for a bowl game."
    from: Alabama Football Sets Program and National Record with 29 Graduates on Bowl Roster - Alabama Athletics

    29 graduates on a single team. 3 who have earned master's degrees. Does that seem like a place where "few will graduate"?


    As for what the rest of the world thinks, I am happy to say that has no bearing on this topic or on what I think.

    Yes, most college athletic programs lose money. There are around 24 or 25 who show a profit from their athletic dept. Alabama is one of those. And that revenue has created an excellent program, funded the rest of the athletic dept, and had enough to put some in the university's general fund. If you want to mock those who lose money, do so in a thread about them.

    The last sentence simply reaffirms your claim that football players don't belong and will not graduate. Since I have already shown that to be nonsense, your wish that the NFL create a minor league is simply another example of your contempt for athletics in general.

    Also, the players in the MLB's minor leagues went to college. And the difference in the length of careers between football and baseball makes a minor league impossible.


    Thanks for playing. Now go whine somewhere else. Perhaps somewhere you have some clue of the facts.

    One last bit from an article about the most recent graduation ceremony at the Capstone.

    "More than 100 University of Alabama student-athletes are slated to earn degrees during this weekend's commencement activities, including 24 All-Americans, six SEC champions, four CoSIDA Academic All-Americans, two NCAA champions and a Heisman Trophy winner.

    The Crimson Tide's tally also includes 87 undergraduate degrees, 17 master's degrees and one doctorate.

    There are 22 past and present football players receiving degrees this weekend, including six All-Americans – Heisman Trophy winner Derrick Henry, Bradley Bozeman, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Amari Cooper, Siran Stacy and Sherman Williams. Alabama's total also includes five that have played in the NFL – Clinton-Dix, Cooper, Henry, Stacy and Williams, and two who went in last week's NFL Draft – Bozeman and Shaun Dion Hamilton."

    So those student athletes who did not graduate because they went to the NFL early, still finished their degree. Because Nick Saban emphasizes how important that degree is. 4 of the players listed above are playing in the NFL. But they STILL put forth the effort to graduate. So spare me your nonsensical claims and your biases. Find another place to work out your personal issues than this thread.
     
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