Close, but no cigar...

[Mr. H.]

Seemingly conciliatory language coming from the White House with respect to oil and natural gas...

Energy policy shifting as abundance replaces scarcity: Obama adviser - Yahoo! Weather

The White House wants to ensure oil and gas production is done as safety as possible, while investing in research and development of renewable forms of energy and addressing climate change, she said.

"I think that those goals will really help this administration deliver on an energy policy that makes a lot of sense," Zichal said.

Absent from this administrative Jaberwocky is mention of the Keystone XL pipeline, drilling in the OCS of coatal waters, the eastern GOM, and last but not least...

...the $40 billion + in oil and gas taxes residing in Obama's yet-to-be approved budget.

But I think they are finally getting the picture... albeit for their own gains.

 

[whitehall]

When the first sentence starts out "the White House wants" you might as well stop reading right there because it's going to be total bull shat.

 

[uscitizen]

Yes the Keystone pipelin was not mentioned beucase Obama is for it.

 

[JiggsCasey]

I see you're still eating up the same nonsense of "abundance" that the WSJ, CNN and Time magazine are promoting.

Considering just how many "zero-response" threads you've created here lately, it's about time your horse**** was held accountable again.

Seemingly conciliatory language coming from the White House with respect to oil and natural gas...

Energy policy shifting as abundance replaces scarcity: Obama adviser - Yahoo! Weather

The White House wants to ensure oil and gas production is done as safety as possible, while investing in research and development of renewable forms of energy and addressing climate change, she said.

"I think that those goals will really help this administration deliver on an energy policy that makes a lot of sense," Zichal said.

Absent from this administrative Jaberwocky is mention of the Keystone XL pipeline, drilling in the OCS of coatal waters, the eastern GOM, and last but not least...

...the $40 billion + in oil and gas taxes residing in Obama's yet-to-be approved budget.

But I think they are finally getting the picture... albeit for their own gains.

Probably because the White House knows that there is no real "abundance," just like anyone being honest with themselves about tight oil/gas production already knows.

Probably because the White House has read stuff like this:

Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report
Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report

Exuberant projections by the media and energy pundits that claim that hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling "can provide endless growth heralding a new era of 'energy independence,' in which the U.S. will become a substantial net exporter of energy, are entirely unwarranted based on the fundamentals," adds Hughes in a companion article for the science journal Nature.

Moreover it is unlikely that difficult and challenging hydrocarbons such as shale oil can even replace the rate of depletion for conventional light oil and natural gas.

Since 1990, says Hughes, the number of operating wells in the U.S. has increased by 90 per cent while the average productivity of those wells has declined by 38 per cent.

The latest panaceas championed by industry and media talking heads are too expensive and will deplete too rapidly to provide either energy security or independence for the United States, concludes the 62-year-old geologist who worked for Natural Resources Canada for 32 years as a coal and gas specialist.

To Hughes shale gas and shale oil represent a temporary bubble in production that will soon burst due to rapid depletion rates that have only recently been tallied.​

So, once again:

I can pretend I've found 11 trillion barrels of oil behind the moon. That says absolutely nothing about the logistics of bringing it to market, nor the public's ability to afford it. You understand how this energy-economy symbiosis works by now, yes? Or should we start from the beginning again?

 

[RGR]

I see you're still eating up the same nonsense of "abundance" that the WSJ, CNN and Time magazine are promoting.

Well, it fits better than peak oil back in 2005 and it being so terrible that nobody noticed. Will you PLEASE go find us someone better educated from your religion to argue these matters, your first grader angles just get so tiring.

Probably because the White House knows that there is no real "abundance," just like anyone being honest with themselves about tight oil/gas production already knows.

You mean my heating bill involving natural gas has dropped by 50% because of low prices and I am supposed to figure that abundance comes from...scarcity? Do you even know what scarcity is Jiggsy?

You understand how this energy-economy symbiosis works by now, yes? Or should we start from the beginning again?

With YOU? Now you are kidding, not only do you not know about the real beginning, but when you tried this last time, peak oil had happened, now you want to start it all over...AGAIN??!!

 

[Mr. H.]

I see you're still eating up the same nonsense of "abundance" that the WSJ, CNN and Time magazine are promoting.

Considering just how many "zero-response" threads you've created here lately, it's about time your horse**** was held accountable again.

Seemingly conciliatory language coming from the White House with respect to oil and natural gas...

Energy policy shifting as abundance replaces scarcity: Obama adviser - Yahoo! Weather

The White House wants to ensure oil and gas production is done as safety as possible, while investing in research and development of renewable forms of energy and addressing climate change, she said.

"I think that those goals will really help this administration deliver on an energy policy that makes a lot of sense," Zichal said.

Absent from this administrative Jaberwocky is mention of the Keystone XL pipeline, drilling in the OCS of coatal waters, the eastern GOM, and last but not least...

...the $40 billion + in oil and gas taxes residing in Obama's yet-to-be approved budget.

But I think they are finally getting the picture... albeit for their own gains.

Probably because the White House knows that there is no real "abundance," just like anyone being honest with themselves about tight oil/gas production already knows.

Probably because the White House has read stuff like this:

Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report
Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report

Exuberant projections by the media and energy pundits that claim that hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling "can provide endless growth heralding a new era of 'energy independence,' in which the U.S. will become a substantial net exporter of energy, are entirely unwarranted based on the fundamentals," adds Hughes in a companion article for the science journal Nature.

Moreover it is unlikely that difficult and challenging hydrocarbons such as shale oil can even replace the rate of depletion for conventional light oil and natural gas.

Since 1990, says Hughes, the number of operating wells in the U.S. has increased by 90 per cent while the average productivity of those wells has declined by 38 per cent.

The latest panaceas championed by industry and media talking heads are too expensive and will deplete too rapidly to provide either energy security or independence for the United States, concludes the 62-year-old geologist who worked for Natural Resources Canada for 32 years as a coal and gas specialist.

To Hughes shale gas and shale oil represent a temporary bubble in production that will soon burst due to rapid depletion rates that have only recently been tallied.​

So, once again:

I can pretend I've found 11 trillion barrels of oil behind the moon. That says absolutely nothing about the logistics of bringing it to market, nor the public's ability to afford it. You understand how this energy-economy symbiosis works by now, yes? Or should we start from the beginning again?

Good Lord, what rock have you climbed out from under this time?

I rarely start threads, and forgot about this one LOL.

You're such an ass Jiggs.

 

[chikenwing]

I see you're still eating up the same nonsense of "abundance" that the WSJ, CNN and Time magazine are promoting.

Considering just how many "zero-response" threads you've created here lately, it's about time your horse**** was held accountable again.

Seemingly conciliatory language coming from the White House with respect to oil and natural gas...

Energy policy shifting as abundance replaces scarcity: Obama adviser - Yahoo! Weather

The White House wants to ensure oil and gas production is done as safety as possible, while investing in research and development of renewable forms of energy and addressing climate change, she said.

"I think that those goals will really help this administration deliver on an energy policy that makes a lot of sense," Zichal said.

Absent from this administrative Jaberwocky is mention of the Keystone XL pipeline, drilling in the OCS of coatal waters, the eastern GOM, and last but not least...

...the $40 billion + in oil and gas taxes residing in Obama's yet-to-be approved budget.

But I think they are finally getting the picture... albeit for their own gains.

Probably because the White House knows that there is no real "abundance," just like anyone being honest with themselves about tight oil/gas production already knows.

Probably because the White House has read stuff like this:

Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report
Fracked Gas Won't Solve Energy Crunch: Report

Exuberant projections by the media and energy pundits that claim that hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling "can provide endless growth heralding a new era of 'energy independence,' in which the U.S. will become a substantial net exporter of energy, are entirely unwarranted based on the fundamentals," adds Hughes in a companion article for the science journal Nature.

Moreover it is unlikely that difficult and challenging hydrocarbons such as shale oil can even replace the rate of depletion for conventional light oil and natural gas.

Since 1990, says Hughes, the number of operating wells in the U.S. has increased by 90 per cent while the average productivity of those wells has declined by 38 per cent.

The latest panaceas championed by industry and media talking heads are too expensive and will deplete too rapidly to provide either energy security or independence for the United States, concludes the 62-year-old geologist who worked for Natural Resources Canada for 32 years as a coal and gas specialist.

To Hughes shale gas and shale oil represent a temporary bubble in production that will soon burst due to rapid depletion rates that have only recently been tallied.​

So, once again:

I can pretend I've found 11 trillion barrels of oil behind the moon. That says absolutely nothing about the logistics of bringing it to market, nor the public's ability to afford it. You understand how this energy-economy symbiosis works by now, yes? Or should we start from the beginning again?

Sure lets start again,how much has the price of natural gas gone down and why.

Or would you like to ask what Cornell University's geology dept has to say about natural gas reserves in just east coast alone?

Or lets just say its all gone so why bother,lets just light a candle and hitch up the wagon,its time to go to town.