Climate change or Pollution?

[Redfish]

Which is it? the libs say the actions of human beings are changing the climate of planet earth. Intelligent people say that man is polluting planet earth, Ok so far?

so, libs are saying that pollution directly causes climate change, but they do not want to attack pollution as their cause celeb.

Libs say that CO2 is a pollutant, but the % of CO2 in the atmosphere has been consistent at .039% since we were capable of measuring it and was the same millions of years ago based on ice cores etc.

So the question of the day is:

Why don't libs make pollution their cause and forget the climate change bullshit?

no one likes pollution, everyone would hop on the anti-pollution bandwagon.

So what is really going on here?

My take: climate change is a hoax but libs are using it to control the activities of humans who are doing things that liberals don't like. Like riding in private planes----------oh wait, liberals do that. or living in huge mansions that suck up tons of electricity---------------oh wait, liberals do that.

So, it seems that liberals want to control our lives but not theirs. Got it.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

 

[Dale Smith]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. You really believe that oil is dead dinosaurs???

 

[Redfish]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. You really believe that oil is dead dinosaurs???

true, the earth is making oil as we speak.

 

[Dale Smith]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. You really believe that oil is dead dinosaurs???

true, the earth is making oil as we speak.

Love coming across people that are able to think for themselves....

 

[francoHFW]

No ignorance is too great for the dupes. lol

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I think the original prediction regarding peak oil was nearly 100 years ago. We're nowhere near running out of oil.

 

[Dale Smith]

No ignorance is too great for the dupes. lol

You know yourself pretty well......

 

[Wilbur Right]

Fossils (from Classical Latinfossilis; literally, "obtained by digging")[1]

Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. You really believe that oil is dead dinosaurs???

That was funny dude.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Fossil fuel is a general term for buried combustible geologic deposits of organic materials, formed from decayed plants and animals that have been converted to crude oil, coal, natural gas, or heavy oils by exposure to heat and pressure in the earth's crust over hundreds of millions of years.




Then there's this.
Hope it helps.

 

[daws101]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. You really believe that oil is dead dinosaurs???

bullshit

What is oil made out of?
Crude oil originates from ancient fossilized organic materials, such as zooplankton and algae, which geochemical processes convert into oil. The name "mineral oil" is a misnomer, in that minerals are not the source of the oil-ancient plants and animals are.
no non ignorant person ever said oil was made from dinosaurs .
ok dale what do you think oil is made out of ...

 

[Wilbur Right]

true, the earth is making oil as we speak.

Cool. You got any tips on the market price of a barrel of crude say, Oh 2 million years out? I want to taken a position in oil futures.

 

[daws101]

Oil is the lifeblood of the modern world, and the combustion engine its indomitable heart. In 2009, oil wells around the world pumped an estimated 84 to 85 million barrels out of the Earth, and countries consumed just as much [source: EIA]. At this rate, how long can we go on pumping fossil fuels out of the ground without exhausting our supplies?

Naturally, we can't tap and drain an entire planet's worth of oil from a single well. Countless oil wells pox Earth's surface: some active, some long drained. Each oil well follows a production bell curve, with output rising, stabilizing and then declining to nothing over a period of years. This is called the Hubbert Curve, proposed in 1956 by Shell geologist M. King Hubbert.



Hubbert also extrapolated his curve to global oil production. Oil companies discover the large, easily exploited oil fields first and then move onto smaller, deeper oil fields when the large ones decline. New technology also continues to make previously unexploited oil deposits viable reserves. The overall curve predicts that global production will rise, peak and then fall off.

Before this gradual downfall begins, however, we'll reach a point known as peak oil. Imagine a carafe filled with coffee. Imagine pouring cup after cup without effort until the stream of java begins to trickle. Eventually you even have to severely tilt the carafe in order to drain the dredges. Peak oil is that last full and flowing cup before the final decline begins. Demand continues to grow, while the Earth's nonrenewable oil reserves dwindle.

Individual nations have already reached peak oil. U.S. production peaked in 1971 and has been in decline ever since [source: EIA]. As global oil production appears to have plateaued in 2005, some analysts say the world has already peaked. Fredrik Robelius of the Uppsala Hydrocarbon Depletion Study Group, however, predicts it will peak sometime between now and 2018 [source: ASPO].

Other estimates are far less severe. In 2006, the Cambridge Energy Research Associates (CERA) predicted that 3.74 trillion barrels of oil remained in the Earth, three times that estimated by peak oil proponents. CERA predicted that global oil production would hit a decades-long "undulating plateau" around the middle of the 21st century.

What happens after peak oil? The worst-case oil crash predictions involve soaring gas prices, the end of globalization, widespread anarchy and the relentless exploitation of previously protected drilling sites.

More optimistic views of this inevitable post-peak world involve a lot more preparation. Basically, the impact of oil shortages can be lessened by decreasing our reliance on fossil fuels. Alternative energy sources and renewable biofuels play a crucial role in these outlooks. Some commentators even go so far as to see eventual oil shortfalls as a stabilizing factor in world politics [source: Drezner].

The writing is on the wall. Global oil supply can't meet global oil demand forever, necessitating new energy sources and usage practices. Even if technology allowed us to harvest every last drop of oil in the planet, increasing scarcity and rising prices would necessitate widespread change long before we actually ran out of oil.
When will we run out of oil, and what happens then?

 

[Dale Smith]

Fossil fuel is a general term for buried combustible geologic deposits of organic materials, formed from decayed plants and animals that have been converted to crude oil, coal, natural gas, or heavy oils by exposure to heat and pressure in the earth's crust over hundreds of millions of years.




Then there's this.
Hope it helps.

Russians & NASA Discredit 'Fossil Fuel' Theory: Demise of Junk CO2 Science - Principia Scientific International

Checkmate.

 

[daws101]

Fossil fuel is a general term for buried combustible geologic deposits of organic materials, formed from decayed plants and animals that have been converted to crude oil, coal, natural gas, or heavy oils by exposure to heat and pressure in the earth's crust over hundreds of millions of years.




Then there's this.
Hope it helps.

Russians & NASA Discredit 'Fossil Fuel' Theory: Demise of Junk CO2 Science - Principia Scientific International

Checkmate.

Principia Scientific International
Background

Principia Scientific International (PSI) is an organization based in the United Kingdom which promotes fringe views and material to claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. PSI was formed in 2010 around the time they published their first book, titled Slaying the Sky Dragon: Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory. [1]

PSI claims it provides its members with a “reliable port of call to ascertain the facts behind the news stories to better judge whether information being presented by third parties is accurate information and reflects a balanced view of all facets of the subject.” [2]

The PSI website says the organization is “for everyone who supports the traditions [sic] scientific method against the rise of sinister and secretive government funded 'post normal science'.”

The group claims on its website to be a “not-for-profit community interest subsidiary of PSI Acumen Ltd.” [2]

PSI Acumen was registered with Companies House in the UK in March 2013 (see PDF) as a private company, with an address in Battersea Park Road, London. In July 2013, the business address of PSI Acumen was changed (PDF) to an address in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, which is the same as the home address of John O'Sullivan, the organization's founder and chief executive officer. PSI Acument LTD was dissolved (PDF) on October 15, 2014. [3], [4], [5]

The two named directors were John O'Sullivan, of the UK, and a Walter James O'Brien, with a US address listed in Fargo, North Dakota. Emails published by climate skeptic blogger Pete Ridley suggest that Walter James O'Brien no longer has any connection to the PSI Acument company. [3], [6]

Principia Scientific reports that one of their “proudest endeavors is the ongoing support given to world-leading independent climatologist, Dr Tim Ball,” who is also a founding member and former chairman of PCI. [7] Principia Scientific International

 

[BluesLegend]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Get real, its densely populated liberal inner cities spewing the pollution. Pouring raw sewage into waterways. Exporting mountains of garbage and waste. Fouling the air. Paving over nature and overloading the ecosystem. Liberal run inner cities are pollution factories.

 

[daws101]

Of course the point is to go after pollution, especially from fossil fuels.

Get real, its densely populated liberal inner cities spewing the pollution. Pouring raw sewage into waterways. Exporting mountains of garbage and waste. Fouling the air. Paving over nature and overloading the ecosystem. Liberal run inner cities are pollution factories.

no more than the suburbs or country folk that have their own private junk yards and burn their garbage .
that is if that worry about garbage at all, septic systems are far worse than sewage.

 

[Rustic]

Which is it? the libs say the actions of human beings are changing the climate of planet earth. Intelligent people say that man is polluting planet earth, Ok so far?

so, libs are saying that pollution directly causes climate change, but they do not want to attack pollution as their cause celeb.

Libs say that CO2 is a pollutant, but the % of CO2 in the atmosphere has been consistent at .039% since we were capable of measuring it and was the same millions of years ago based on ice cores etc.

So the question of the day is:

Why don't libs make pollution their cause and forget the climate change bullshit?

no one likes pollution, everyone would hop on the anti-pollution bandwagon.

So what is really going on here?

My take: climate change is a hoax but libs are using it to control the activities of humans who are doing things that liberals don't like. Like riding in private planes----------oh wait, liberals do that. or living in huge mansions that suck up tons of electricity---------------oh wait, liberals do that.

So, it seems that liberals want to control our lives but not theirs. Got it.

 

[Rustic]

Oil, gas and uranium/plutonium was put on earth for us to use for energy, drill baby drill...

Solar, wind and what ever other so called "green" renewable energy are decades away from being practical...

 

[daws101]

Oil, gas and uranium/plutonium was put on earth for us to use for energy, drill baby drill...

Solar, wind and what ever other so called "green" renewable energy are decades away from being practical...

Bullshit ! On both. the minerals , oil etc are the bI products of planetary formation not a gift from an imaginary sky faerie.
They would be useless in a ruined environment.