Clearing Up the Lie that Israel Started the 6 Day War

[fanger]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

 

[Shusha]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

Oh please. A blockade, of itself, is not necessarily a belligerent act of aggression. It is also a defensive strategy.

The blockade of Gaza is a RESPONSE to Hamas aggression, and thus an act of defense and not one of belligerency.

 

[Hollie]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

Ergo, you have issues with making valid, comparative analyses.

In 1967, Israel was taking defensive measures against overtly hostile regular armies of Arabs-Moslems preparing to initiate a war of aggression.

In the case of Gaza, Israel is still on the defensive, taking defensive measures against various, overtly hostile Islamic terrorist groups, one of which has a written charter calling for the destruction of Israel.

The aggressors are still Arabs-Moslems. In the case of the various Islamic terrorist franchises, they're just not uniformed armies.

 

[fanger]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

Oh please. A blockade, of itself, is not necessarily a belligerent act of aggression. It is also a defensive strategy.

The blockade of Gaza is a RESPONSE to Hamas aggression, and thus an act of defense and not one of belligerency.

On the morning of June 5, 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egyptian forces in response to Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran you could argue that was an act of defense

 

[fanger]

A preemptive war is a war that is commenced in an attempt to repel or defeat a perceived imminent offensive or invasion, or to gain a strategic advantage in an impending (allegedly unavoidable) war shortly before that attack materializes. It is a war that preemptively 'breaks the peace'. The term 'preemptive war' is sometimes confused with the term 'preventive war'. The difference is that a preventive war is launched to destroy the potential threat of the targeted party, when an attack by that party is not imminent or known to be planned. A preemptive war is launched in anticipation of immediate aggression by another party.[1] Most contemporary scholarship equates preventive war with aggression, and therefore argues that it is illegitimate.[2]The waging of a preemptive war has less stigma attached than does the waging of a preventive war.[3] The initiation of armed conflict: that is being the first to 'break the peace' when no 'armed attack' has yet occurred, is not permitted by the UN Charter, unless authorized by the UN Security Council as an enforcement action. Some authors have claimed that when a presumed adversary first appears to be beginning confirmable preparations for a possible future attack, but has not yet actually attacked, that the attack has in fact 'already begun', however this opinion has not been upheld by the UN.
Preemptive war - Wikipedia

 

[Weatherman2020]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

"Since 1945, the UN Security Councildetermines the legal status of blockades and by article 42 of the UN Charter, the Council can also apply blockades.[10] The UN Charter allows for the right of self-defense but requires that this must be immediately reported to the Security Council to ensure the maintenance of international peace."

Want to keep digging yourself deeper, dufus?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Israel

Versus:

Egypt

Syria

Jordan

Iraq

Lebanon
Supported by:

• 
  Algeria
• 
  Kuwait
• 
  Libya
• 
  Morocco
• 
  Pakistan
• 
  PLO
• 
  Sudan
• 
  Tunisia

Israel:
50,000 troops
214,000 reserves
300 combat aircraft
800 tanks

Total troops: 264,000
100,000 deployed

Arabs:
Egypt: 240,000
Syria, Jordan, and Iraq: 307,000
957 combat aircraft
2,504 tanks
Lebanon: 2 combat aircraft

Total troops: 547,000
240,000 deployed

HEY, LET'S ATTACK THOSE ARABS, WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!

 

[Hollie]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

Oh please. A blockade, of itself, is not necessarily a belligerent act of aggression. It is also a defensive strategy.

The blockade of Gaza is a RESPONSE to Hamas aggression, and thus an act of defense and not one of belligerency.

On the morning of June 5, 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egyptian forces in response to Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran you could argue that was an act of defense

You really are clueless.

 

[Shusha]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

Oh please. A blockade, of itself, is not necessarily a belligerent act of aggression. It is also a defensive strategy.

The blockade of Gaza is a RESPONSE to Hamas aggression, and thus an act of defense and not one of belligerency.

On the morning of June 5, 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egyptian forces in response to Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran you could argue that was an act of defense

Well, the words "in response" should give a clue about who is defending and who is the aggressor, but if you want to argue that Egypt's closing of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships is an act of defense -- go ahead. What aggressive actions was Israel making to Egypt's sovereignty and territorial integrity?

 

[ProudVeteran76]

...LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

This again? Really?

I will not laugh when they say the Palestinians want Peace. Keep repeating that over and over again. In addition to Egypt ordering the UN forces out they Blocked the Straits of Tiran. Israel complained to the UN and they did nothing. Oh yes, they want " piece "all right


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[teddyearp]

Sigh. As usual the frigging Zionist revisionist history. Is there any fact that the Zionists won't deny?

Direct from the CIA:

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack.

Ho hum. If you could and would have read the whole OP there is nothing being revised here at all. After seeing five arab armies massing on their borders (from the last sentence of the OP):

June 5, 1967. Israel decides they must conduct a surprise military attack in order to eliminate as many enemy aircraft as they can. The control of the air was the decisive factor in the decimation of the armies of five arab armies.

Yawn, monti, your 'electric intifada' brigade bullshit blows away in the wind like a feather.

 

[teddyearp]

You are just a bunch of fantasists. The fact is, Israel started the war. Every frigging objective historian, the CIA, British Intelligence and the Intelligence services of the western world know that Israel started the war. Only you Zionist morons keep up this ridiculous charade, convincing yourselves that starting the war is not starting a war. You people just can't accept the facts, it's hilarious. It's like the Japanese claiming the U.S. started the war because the U.S. embargoed Japan and Pearl Harbor was a pre-emptive strike. Grow up punk.

ROTFLMFAO!

Your post is so idiotic, one can blow holes in your arguments with a spit wad. You use this very self same justification for ALL Palestinian violence against the Israelis. You flip flop like a fish.

 

[teddyearp]

There was no belligerent aggression on the part of the Arab states. Unless you believe a blockade is belligerent aggression.

Again, flip flopping like a fish. Make up your mind.

 

[teddyearp]

Adding that Jews were removed from Jerusalem by force in 1957 by Jordan.

SHHH! The 'electronic intifada' brigade doesn't like hearing truth. It fucks up their narrative. And BTW it was 1948 that Jordan allowed the destruction of ALL previous Jewish presence in the West Bank. Hebron, Silwan, the Jewish Quarter in the Old City of Jerusalem; just to name a few.

 

[teddyearp]

I present facts, you make things up.<snip>

Groan! Here we go again. See my sig:

 

[teddyearp]

Still waiting for evidence that Israel was threatening the sovereignty or integrity of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq, and thus each of those nation's actions were defensive.

Don't hold your breath . . . . . . but you've been here long enough to know that.

 

[teddyearp]

israel fired the first shot

Yes, they did as the OP declared in the last sentence. Do you know how to read? Read the whole thing and then you'll know why. After all, it was because four Arab armies were amassed on their borders.

 

[teddyearp]

israel fired the first shot

Read post 1 dufus. Egypt initiated an act of war.

Ergo israels blockade of Gaza is an act of war

So you too flip flop like a fish. From your posts, it is clear that you, like the rest of the 'electronic intifada' brigade, have a very twisted grip on facts. It is OK for Hamas to fire first shots, but not OK for Israel to have fired first in 1967 all for the same supposed reasons.

Make up your mind.

 

[ProudVeteran76]

"the CIA assessed that Nasser’s military presence in the Sinai was defensive, stating that “Armored striking forces could breach the UAR’s double defense line in the Sinai in three to four days and drive the Egyptians west of the Suez Canal in seven to nine days. Israel could contain any attacks by Syria or Jordan during this period”

Neither U.S. nor Israeli intelligence assessed that there was any kind of serious threat of an Egyptian attack. On the contrary, both considered the possibility that Nasser might strike first as being extremely slim.

The current Israeli Ambassador to the U.S., Michael B. Oren, acknowledged in his book “Six Days of War“, widely regarded as the definitive account of the war, that “By all reports Israel received from the Americans, and according to its own intelligence, Nasser had no interest in bloodshed”.

Four days before Israel’s attack on Egypt, Helms met with a senior Israeli official who expressed Israel’s intent to go to war, and that the only reason it hadn’t already struck was because of efforts by the Johnson administration to restrain both sides to prevent a violent conflict.

“Helms interpreted the remarks as suggesting that Israel would attack very soon”, writes Robarge. He reported to Johnson “that Israel probably would start a war within a few days.”

Israel's attack on Egypt in June '67 was not 'preemptive' | Foreign Policy Journal

Tell us why Egypt ordered the UN forces out and why they blocked the Straits of Tiran. Grow up; you ignorant punk

 

[ProudVeteran76]

The only fact is, Israel started the war. Can't you bozos ever resign yourselves to the facts. You are always pulling out some sort of rationalization. It's like the who cold cocks a passerby on the street and tells the police, well, "he reached in his pocket". It's still f_cking assault you clowns.

"At precisely 8 a.m. on June 5, 1967, virtually the entire Israeli air force streaked into Egyptian airspace simultaneously. Some aircraft entered from Israel's Negev desert to the east, some directly from major Israeli bases to the northeast, and hundreds from the Mediterranean to the north and northwest.......Today what is clear is that the Israelis wanted war, Egypt did not, the Soviets could have prevented it, and the Americans should have."

Twenty-Five Years Ago This Month
By Richard H. Curtiss

So no answer why Egypt removed the UN Peacekeepers, initiated war by violating international waters, and why Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria all had their armies massed on the border of Israel while publicly calling for the extermination of the Jewish people.
Thought so.

You're not going to get one; there's nobody home. Kicking the UN forces out and deliberately blocking the Straits of Tiran, the UN doing NOTHING after Israel went to them , Jordan firing at Israelis from the Golan Heights in an acting AGGRESSION Forgot to mention one thing: prior to them initiating the War Nasser was bragging how they were going to destroy Israel once and for all WHEN they went to war. The Arabs initiated the Warand got their ASS kicked !