Class size does not matter

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    It turns out that conservatives were right all along.

    Study: Class size doesn’t matter - The Washington Post
     
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    They're just trying to screw you with a small one. :badgrin:

    Like if a woman tells you size doesn't matter. She's being nice or doesn't know if you might have a small one.

    Turns out size does matter. I'm abashed because I haven't any links. :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Class size does not matter

    It does if you're the test subject in a sex-ed class......... :eusa_whistle:
     
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    This conservative, former first grade teacher, believes that size does matter...most especially in regards to reading, and having the opportunity to offer students of all levels more individualized instruction.
     
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    The data from the study contradicts your anecdotal evidence. In fact, the fact that class size is smaller now than it was 50 years ago, and students generally perform poorer on reading tests now than they did then, contradicts it. By the way, data driven instruction and tutoring covers what you are talking about.
     
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    Eh, there's enough studies out there to support any and all opinions. It's common sense though if you have to teach students to literally read, you'll experience a higher degree of success in a class of 15 versus 30.
     
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    I wouldn't know, I taught myself to read because the class was too slow. Taking a wild guess though, I would say you would do even better one on one than one on fifteen. That is obviously impossible, so the best thing to do is drop the union backed requirement for degrees and accreditation and put more people in a class rather than reducing the size of the classes.
     
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    FROM THE ARTICLE: frequent teacher feedback, the use of data to guide instruction, high-dosage tutoring, increased instructional time, and high expectations — explains approximately 50 percent of the variation in school effectiveness.

    Gawd I hate stupid. "Frequent teacher feedback": which is what you get with a smaller class size. Same with the others. This had to have been written by a right winger. Tell me Democrats aren't this stupid.
     
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    As I said, "opportunity to offer students of all levels more individualized instruction". I was performing my student teaching when my daughter was in Kindergarten, and her teacher scolded me because she already knew how to read and was bored learning the alphabet. Then when I started teaching first grade the following year, and my daughter was also in first grade (at a different school), it discouraged me to see my child continue to not be challenged. I suggested that she be allowed to go to a second grade class during their reading instruction, but it wasn't permitted. Needless to say, I was a very determined teacher that ALL of my students would experience growth. I was lucky to teach in a small school that received special funding to keep first and second grade classes smaller than the rest, and it did have a positive impact. I didn't have to worry about just teaching to the low end of the class, with my focus being that those students would progress at grade level...but was also able to offer enrichment to advanced students, so that they weren't left just doing busy work.
     

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