Claire McCaskill Rips into Lying Hatch over tax plan for people making $50,000 or less..

[Dragonlady]

Without an education there is NO democracy....
Without an education there is ONLY hypocrisy.....

Without somebody else to pay for it, there are no educated liberals.

Really? How much did you pay for YOUR education Ray?

Obviously nothing.

Yes and he got exactly what he paid for.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Without an education there is NO democracy....
Without an education there is ONLY hypocrisy.....

Without somebody else to pay for it, there are no educated liberals.

Really? How much did you pay for YOUR education Ray?

Me? I never went to college. As for most of my primary education, that was a private Catholic school that was supported by the parishioners, bake sales, rummage sales, and we used to go house to house and sell cookies.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Cons cheered Reagan's "Voodoo" economics and still do. He raised taxes after that, which they ignore.

And this current tax bill is yet more voodoo economics from the right.

 

[Siete]

Cons cheered Reagan's "Voodoo" economics and still do. He raised taxes after that, which they ignore.

And this current tax bill is yet more voodoo economics from the right.

that adds $2 TRILLION $$$ to the National Debt.

FTFY !

 

[nat4900]

What I've always found "fascinating" is that most (not all) GOPers in congress, readily accept bribes from wealthy donors (to get re-elected).....have no problem lying and screwing their own constituents, .....and then waltz into churches and declare themselves the "religious right."

Hypocrisy much???

 

[nat4900]

What I've always found "fascinating" is that most (not all) GOPers in congress, readily accept bribes from wealthy donors (to get re-elected).....have no problem lying and screwing their own constituents, .....and then waltz into churches and declare themselves the "religious right."

Hypocrisy much???

I would NEVER state that elected democrats are without their own serious sins.....BUT, person per person, the hypocrisy of ultra right, evangelical morons, is quite disgusting.

 

[basquebromance]

All Republicans in Congress had to do was simplify the tax code, get rid of loopholes, and lower taxes for all Americans...and they couldn't even do that. Republicans in Congress better get it together. Fast.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What I've always found "fascinating" is that most (not all) GOPers in congress, readily accept bribes from wealthy donors (to get re-elected).....have no problem lying and screwing their own constituents, .....and then waltz into churches and declare themselves the "religious right."

Hypocrisy much???

I would NEVER state that elected democrats are without their own serious sins.....BUT, person per person, the hypocrisy of ultra right, evangelical morons, is quite disgusting.

Yes, they went against their morals whereas Democrats don't have any morals.

 

[nat4900]

Yes, they went against their morals whereas Democrats don't have morals.

The word you may be looking for is AMORAL.........Nonetheless, most legislation to HELP the less fortunate in this country has been inspired by democrats; whereas most legislation to help their wealthy donors has been initiated by republicans......

Do you really want to argue with the above???

 

[Dragonlady]

The best part is that for nearly 40 years now Republicans have promised evangelicals that they would reverse Roe v Wade, and keep gays from getting married, and promote “family values”. And they haven’t delivered a single thing to evangelicals but the fools keep on voting for them.

As for family values: no maternity leave, no family leave, no child care strategy, school lunch program funds cut, education cut. No party is more hostile to families than Republicans.

 

[leftwinger]

Below is an example of a "loser" under this new Tax plan: The rich (in high taxed states CA NY NJ) will definitely pay more.


Mary and Joe are a married couple who used to itemize under the current tax plan solely for the three major categories above. This year they paid the following:

• $22,000 in state and local taxes
• $12,000 in property taxes on their primary home
• $28,000 in mortgage interest per year on a new $700,000 mortgage for a primary home

Under the new plan, here’s what the itemized deductions would look like:

• • $0 of deductions for state and local taxes. Loss: $22,000
  • $10,000 of deductions in property tax (the maximum now allowed). Loss: $2,000
  • $20,000 in mortgage interest per year (only interest on first $500k of mortgage is deductible). Loss: $8,000
  • Total Deduction Losses Under New Plan: $30,000

Note that their total deductions if itemized are $30,000 which exceeds the standard deduction for married couples. So they will still itemize under the new plan, but they will shelter a lot less of their money through deductions than before. Assuming their tax bracket is 35%, these changes will cost them $30,000 * 35% tax = $10,500 more out of their pocket in taxes per year!

 

[dudmuck]

What I've always found "fascinating" is that most (not all) GOPers in congress, readily accept bribes from wealthy donors (to get re-elected).....have no problem lying and screwing their own constituents, .....and then waltz into churches and declare themselves the "religious right."

Hypocrisy much???

 

[TNHarley]

The best part is that for nearly 40 years now Republicans have promised evangelicals that they would reverse Roe v Wade, and keep gays from getting married, and promote “family values”. And they haven’t delivered a single thing to evangelicals but the fools keep on voting for them.

As for family values: no maternity leave, no family leave, no child care strategy, school lunch program funds cut, education cut. No party is more hostile to families than Republicans.

How is it hostile by making them and their state take care of themselves?
The fed gov should be doing NONE of that mess.
But i am NOT saying they arent hypocritical asswipes.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The best part is that for nearly 40 years now Republicans have promised evangelicals that they would reverse Roe v Wade, and keep gays from getting married, and promote “family values”. And they haven’t delivered a single thing to evangelicals but the fools keep on voting for them.

As for family values: no maternity leave, no family leave, no child care strategy, school lunch program funds cut, education cut. No party is more hostile to families than Republicans.

Everybody and their mother knows that Roe vs Wade can only be reversed in one way, so it's a lie that Republicans promised they could do it. When they are assured we have a strong enough conservative court, only then will they try to have it reversed. Same might hold true for gay marriage.

However Republicans across the land have been placing more and more restrictions on abortion in Republican states; ours is one of the most stringent. So to some degree, they did keep their promises to the religious right. The nomination of justice Gorsuch is setting the stage for a reversal Roe vs Wade.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, they went against their morals whereas Democrats don't have morals.

The word you may be looking for is AMORAL.........Nonetheless, most legislation to HELP the less fortunate in this country has been inspired by democrats; whereas most legislation to help their wealthy donors has been initiated by republicans......

Do you really want to argue with the above???

Sure I do. Hil-liar had three times the amount of campaign money than Trump. Where did she get it from, the homeless? It was record setting.

Yes, Democrats are in the business to make people lazy and government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. Do you really think that the Democrats gave a shit if you had health insurance? Of course not. But between Commie Care and food stamps, the DumBama administration proudly announced they created over 40 million more new government dependents. That was no accident either.

 

[Dragonlady]

The best part is that for nearly 40 years now Republicans have promised evangelicals that they would reverse Roe v Wade, and keep gays from getting married, and promote “family values”. And they haven’t delivered a single thing to evangelicals but the fools keep on voting for them.

As for family values: no maternity leave, no family leave, no child care strategy, school lunch program funds cut, education cut. No party is more hostile to families than Republicans.

Everybody and their mother knows that Roe vs Wade can only be reversed in one way, so it's a lie that Republicans promised they could do it. When they are assured we have a strong enough conservative court, only then will they try to have it reversed. Same might hold true for gay marriage.

However Republicans across the land have been placing more and more restrictions on abortion in Republican states; ours is one of the most stringent. So to some degree, they did keep their promises to the religious right. The nomination of justice Gorsuch is setting the stage for a reversal Roe vs Wade.

Gorsuch says Roe v Wade is “settled law”. And most of the abortion restrictions have been overturned at the SC.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The best part is that for nearly 40 years now Republicans have promised evangelicals that they would reverse Roe v Wade, and keep gays from getting married, and promote “family values”. And they haven’t delivered a single thing to evangelicals but the fools keep on voting for them.

As for family values: no maternity leave, no family leave, no child care strategy, school lunch program funds cut, education cut. No party is more hostile to families than Republicans.

Everybody and their mother knows that Roe vs Wade can only be reversed in one way, so it's a lie that Republicans promised they could do it. When they are assured we have a strong enough conservative court, only then will they try to have it reversed. Same might hold true for gay marriage.

However Republicans across the land have been placing more and more restrictions on abortion in Republican states; ours is one of the most stringent. So to some degree, they did keep their promises to the religious right. The nomination of justice Gorsuch is setting the stage for a reversal Roe vs Wade.

Gorsuch says Roe v Wade is “settled law”. And most of the abortion restrictions have been overturned at the SC.

Which ones were those? Never heard of them. They have been voted down in states, but not at the federal level:

How Hard Is It To Get An Abortion In Every Single State?

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes, they went against their morals whereas Democrats don't have morals.

The word you may be looking for is AMORAL.........Nonetheless, most legislation to HELP the less fortunate in this country has been inspired by democrats; whereas most legislation to help their wealthy donors has been initiated by republicans......

Do you really want to argue with the above???

Sure I do. Hil-liar had three times the amount of campaign money than Trump. Where did she get it from, the homeless? It was record setting.

Yes, Democrats are in the business to make people lazy and government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. Do you really think that the Democrats gave a shit if you had health insurance? Of course not. But between Commie Care and food stamps, the DumBama administration proudly announced they created over 40 million more new government dependents. That was no accident either.

Really Ray, of all of the stupid shit Republicans have convinced their followers of, this is the dumbest. And it’s a lie. The fact that you believe it shows what a waste of money your Catholic school education was.

The biggest users of Federal welfare assistance programs are red states. Not Democrats, Republicans.

Republicans work very hard at keeping people in poverty - no raises in minimum wage, “at will” employment, no maternity leave, no job security for pregnant women, no workers’ rights to speak of.

Republicans keeping cutting the education budget at every turn because they know that a smart well educated voter isn’t going to vote Republican.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, they went against their morals whereas Democrats don't have morals.

The word you may be looking for is AMORAL.........Nonetheless, most legislation to HELP the less fortunate in this country has been inspired by democrats; whereas most legislation to help their wealthy donors has been initiated by republicans......

Do you really want to argue with the above???

Sure I do. Hil-liar had three times the amount of campaign money than Trump. Where did she get it from, the homeless? It was record setting.

Yes, Democrats are in the business to make people lazy and government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. Do you really think that the Democrats gave a shit if you had health insurance? Of course not. But between Commie Care and food stamps, the DumBama administration proudly announced they created over 40 million more new government dependents. That was no accident either.

Really Ray, of all of the stupid shit Republicans have convinced their followers of, this is the dumbest. And it’s a lie. The fact that you believe it shows what a waste of money your Catholic school education was.

The biggest users of Federal welfare assistance programs are red states. Not Democrats, Republicans.

Republicans work very hard at keeping people in poverty - no raises in minimum wage, “at will” employment, no maternity leave, no job security for pregnant women, no workers’ rights to speak of.

Republicans keeping cutting the education budget at every turn because they know that a smart well educated voter isn’t going to vote Republican.

Of course, that's why all those smart well educated ghetto dwellers all vote Democrat.

Now what did I say that was a lie? Would you like me to post links of DumBama claiming he got 20 million people on Commie Care? Would you like me to show you the food stamp chart and what happened when DumBama changed the requirements to get them? What lie?

The Republican message is be responsible, stay in school, stay out of trouble with the law, and work hard. The Democrat message is single parent households are independence, if you can't afford kids, have them anyway because you'll get government goodies, if you don't get an education, it's not your fault, it's the fault of Republicans and society, and if you can't get into college, it's because you were born the wrong color or with the wrong last name. Working your way through college is passe´

I don't know how many times this needs to be explained: states don't get welfare--people get welfare. A red state doesn't have all Republicans no more than a blue state has all Democrats.

Articles: The Myth of Red State Welfare

Are Welfare Recipients Mostly Republican?

 

[nat4900]

The biggest users of Federal welfare assistance programs are red states. Not Democrats, Republicans.

Ray is an IDIOT....always has been and there's no hope for him

Biggest welfare recipients states: Louisiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia.......Mostly bright RED, republicans states.........Who gets the least amount of welfare??? CT, Md, DE, MS, CA, etc.....

Ray is just an idiot .......who carries a gun to prevent being called an idiot.