Said1
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dilloduck said:Dec 20th?
Phew, it is him.
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dilloduck said:Dec 20th?
hylandrdet said:Where are the charges than have been brought forth to prove that THE WAR WAS LEGAL? The UN, NATO, CIA, FBI, PENTAGON? What organization can you cite that can reveil a report of which justifies the invasion of Iraq?
As far as the oil? You are aware that Russia, Germany and France had very huge oil deals with Iraq. Guess what? Should Saddam Hussein be dethroned, those contracts are null and void.
padisha emperor said:the Gulf war was LEGAL, because it had a mandate from UNO.
this war in Iraq 2003 was illegal and injust
Personly, excpet the fall of Hussein and the fact that US get more Oil, I didn't really see a fight against Al Quaeda.
Like said nakedemperor, Al Quaeda has not the monopole of terrorism. And USA have not the right to attack a country without real prooves, documents, and UNO mandate. Because it will be chaos.
For Iraq : there is a big problem between Chiites and Sunnites.
And the civil war has already begun.
so, it is why the situation of the US troops is quite bad - to not say in the deep shit -
with a civil war on the shoulders, it will be hard to win the peace.
padisha emperor said:the Gulf war was LEGAL, because it had a mandate from UNO. this war in Iraq 2003 was illegal and injust
Personly, excpet the fall of Hussein and the fact that US get more Oil, I didn't really see a fight against Al Quaeda.
You are the dumbest Frenchie on the planet
Nope...you are wrong.padisha emperor said:Jimnyc : the war was illegal because without authorization from international community, wiihtout any mandate, without UNO approval, without UNO security council approval.......
US were not under attack. Not under a direct attack from Iraq, so it was not a real legitim defense.
911 was an attack, but from al quaeda, not from a state. War against terrorism is good, but against sovereing states without prooves....it is vilation of international rules.....
Did you see me mention WMD in my post anywhere or are you reading a different board?padisha emperor said:so, why USA justificate their war with the WMD ?
Iraq had no WMD..............
padisha emperor said:I've just heard that 20 marines were killed by an explosion.
It is awful,; very sad, and I'm sorry for their families.
May they will rest in peace.
Did you see me mention WMD in my post anywhere or are you reading a different board?
Iraq had been in violation of the Cease Fire agreement from the first war for over a decade...that is grounds enough for US action in Iraq.
padisha emperor said:so, why USA justificate their war with the WMD ?
Iraq had no WMD..............
padisha emperor said:France have lot of treaties and assistance accords with african countries.
USA and iraq had not.
And I don't think that France send our troops in Congo without UN approval or other countries' wish.
We don't consider the world as our private garden. It was during the XVII and the XVIIIth centuries, but no more.
Nonation has colonial empire, so, no nation can decide ofr other peoples.I even believe that the Carta of Atlantic, during the WWII, between Roosevelt and Churchill, said that the people of earth have the right to choose their regime, their destiny, wihtout any other country. it was to stop the colonialism.
But it does'nt meant that a country can destruct an other country because he want. That is not the spirit of liberty and self-administration wished by the US in 1776, the French in 1789, and after WWII, in the Paris Convention.
padisha emperor said:Well, it is impossible. you know why ? because when USA attack a muslim country and kill 10,000 terrorists, 50,000 new terrorists rise up. because ther hate of USA is stronger then.
Vicious circle.
padisha emperor said:oh, now it would be our fault.
can't you assume your faults ?
The whole world was against this war, you did it, and now, you say it was the fault of Europe ?
tssssssssssssssssssss.
Bad faith
padisha emperor said:The whole world was against this war, you did it, and now, you say it was the fault of Europe ?