Child sex trafficking – as easy in Seattle as ordering a pizza

[Esmeralda]

I looked for anything that said Seattle was highly ranked for child sex trafficking in the US and didn't find anything.

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The article was taken from a Seattle/northwest area source so I image they were posted about their area inclusively. I added that it is actually a national problem.

I think it is more an impression that the writer of the article had than based on any factual research or statistics. Like you said, it is alarmist, and I think shouldn't be published w/o facts to back it up, rather than an anecdotal situation by one mother.

The girl in the article was a runaway. Only a troubled kid is a runaway. The family has to take some responsibility rather than just saying any kid at all is going to be swept off the street and used as a sex slave. If your kid has run away, there is a problem in the home. I'm not excusing sex traffickers, but they couldn't function w/o vulnerable children to prey on.

 

[Cossack1483]

someone woke up in an executing mood

People who rape cannot be rehabilitated. They should be shot in the head.

This was tried in the past with the "weinsteins". They just descend on another White Nation.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I looked for anything that said Seattle was highly ranked for child sex trafficking in the US and didn't find anything.

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The article was taken from a Seattle/northwest area source so I image they were posted about their area inclusively. I added that it is actually a national problem.

I think it is more an impression that the writer of the article had than based on any factual research or statistics. Like you said, it is alarmist, and I think shouldn't be published w/o facts to back it up, rather than an anecdotal situation by one mother.

The girl in the article was a runaway. Only a troubled kid is a runaway. The family has to take some responsibility rather than just saying any kid at all is going to be swept off the street and used as a sex slave. If your kid has run away, there is a problem in the home. I'm not excusing sex traffickers, but they couldn't function w/o vulnerable children to prey on.

You may be correct that Seattle or Washington state isn't as high on the list of human trafficking as the article suggests although it is a big problem here. Yes, the problem is worldwide, no doubt. Seattle or Washington does play a big role in it, since we do border Canada, have several international ports and large rural areas that some of those states don't have, and I'm not saying that we are the only state that does. Washington is/was unique in that we were one of the first to pass very strict laws against human trafficking, although few if any have been prosecuted under those laws because most of those crimes have been dealt with under other similar laws. Also understand that human trafficking isn't just about the sex trade. It also encompasses labor workers, whether for agriculture or sweat shops both here & abroad.

I do disagree about where traffickers get their victims.....atleast to a point. Yes many are runaways, but don't be so quick to discount kidnappings. The child porn/sex trafficking business problem includes infants, toddlers and the very young that wouldn't have the choice to runaway. There is always a good chance that unsolved kidnappings are for trafficking........especially when several are reported within a relatively short period of time. And don't forget those girls that were kept for years in that creeps basement or the other that was kept in a shed that finally escaped after years of confinement. None of them were runaways.

I also disagree about all runaways being victims of a bad home & the parents solely responsible. Yes many are such, but there are also many kids especially nowadays, that when they hit that rebellious stage & don't agree with home rules.....take off on their own. Other possibles would be a one parent home, the kid feels wronged in some way even though the parent is doing the best they can and the kid runs.

Kids under 18 (and even some older and many adults too) don't really know their ass from their elbow and are vulnerable to anyone with a slick story.

 

[Syriusly]

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'In our society people should not be able to order a girl for sex the same way they can order a pizza and have it delivered to their home.That’s what a mom says about child sex trafficking, which she knew nothing about until her daughter was sold as a sex slave between Everett and Burien for 108 days.

“You warn them about the boogeyman and you warn them about the dangers of crossing the street without holding an adult’s hand when they’re younger, and you talk about the dangers of texting while driving. These are the things that you are worried about when your children are growing up,” says Nacole, who didn’t want me to use her last name.

“I don’t think the thought ever crossed my mind that I’d have to warn my daughter about being a child sex slave.”Police estimate up to 500 teens, some children as young as 12 years old, are working as sex slaves every day in King County". - Source​

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This isn't just an isolated incident. It's happening across the US. This is an estimated 42 billion dollar a year business. When you pay up to $300 per sexual act, those buying this sort of stuff have disposable income. Since this isn't a partisan issue issue, it gets very little media coverage, so it goes on unabated.

The morals of this country are disappearing.
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Of course this is a tragedy- and I am glad that you are bringing some attention to the issue of child sex trafficking.

But this is not a new issue- but the internet and cell phones have made some of this more pervasive.

I know that the FBI and officials in many states are specifically targeting those trafficking in kids- and I hope this gets even more attention.

 

[Syriusly]

For those of you raising the issue of 'force' and 'consent'- the kids being discussed are too young to consent to sex - let alone consent to be pimped out for money.

Simple enough- if the guy is paying a 15 year old for sex- the guy is guilty.

 

[Esmeralda]

I looked for anything that said Seattle was highly ranked for child sex trafficking in the US and didn't find anything.

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The article was taken from a Seattle/northwest area source so I image they were posted about their area inclusively. I added that it is actually a national problem.

I think it is more an impression that the writer of the article had than based on any factual research or statistics. Like you said, it is alarmist, and I think shouldn't be published w/o facts to back it up, rather than an anecdotal situation by one mother.

The girl in the article was a runaway. Only a troubled kid is a runaway. The family has to take some responsibility rather than just saying any kid at all is going to be swept off the street and used as a sex slave. If your kid has run away, there is a problem in the home. I'm not excusing sex traffickers, but they couldn't function w/o vulnerable children to prey on.

You may be correct that Seattle or Washington state isn't as high on the list of human trafficking as the article suggests although it is a big problem here. Yes, the problem is worldwide, no doubt. Seattle or Washington does play a big role in it, since we do border Canada, have several international ports and large rural areas that some of those states don't have, and I'm not saying that we are the only state that does. Washington is/was unique in that we were one of the first to pass very strict laws against human trafficking, although few if any have been prosecuted under those laws because most of those crimes have been dealt with under other similar laws. Also understand that human trafficking isn't just about the sex trade. It also encompasses labor workers, whether for agriculture or sweat shops both here & abroad.

I do disagree about where traffickers get their victims.....atleast to a point. Yes many are runaways, but don't be so quick to discount kidnappings. The child porn/sex trafficking business problem includes infants, toddlers and the very young that wouldn't have the choice to runaway. There is always a good chance that unsolved kidnappings are for trafficking........especially when several are reported within a relatively short period of time. And don't forget those girls that were kept for years in that creeps basement or the other that was kept in a shed that finally escaped after years of confinement. None of them were runaways.

I also disagree about all runaways being victims of a bad home & the parents solely responsible. Yes many are such, but there are also many kids especially nowadays, that when they hit that rebellious stage & don't agree with home rules.....take off on their own. Other possibles would be a one parent home, the kid feels wronged in some way even though the parent is doing the best they can and the kid runs.

Kids under 18 (and even some older and many adults too) don't really know their ass from their elbow and are vulnerable to anyone with a slick story.

Unless you have studies to support

For those of you raising the issue of 'force' and 'consent'- the kids being discussed are too young to consent to sex - let alone consent to be pimped out for money.

Simple enough- if the guy is paying a 15 year old for sex- the guy is guilty.

I am not excusing sex trafficking, but the age of consent in Washington State is 16. It is most likely that most of the 'children' being discussed here are 16-17. Eighteen year olds are adults, so I don't imagine they are considered children, but in this discussion, probably 16-17 year olds (and younger) are. However, it is most likely 16+ year olds are those who are engaging in prostitution and are victims of sex trafficking. As I have already posted, Seattle is not the worst city in the US for sex trafficking as the article in the OP suggests as well as what the title of the thread suggests.

 

[Vastator]

This is why I support a mandatory death penalty for rape. After a few high profile executions, demand will drop precipitously.

And merely executing the pimps will not be enough. The federal government needs to execute the Johns too.

Nah... Reports of rape would drop, while missing persons, and homicides would skyrocket.

 

[Syriusly]

I looked for anything that said Seattle was highly ranked for child sex trafficking in the US and didn't find anything.

`
The article was taken from a Seattle/northwest area source so I image they were posted about their area inclusively. I added that it is actually a national problem.

I think it is more an impression that the writer of the article had than based on any factual research or statistics. Like you said, it is alarmist, and I think shouldn't be published w/o facts to back it up, rather than an anecdotal situation by one mother.

The girl in the article was a runaway. Only a troubled kid is a runaway. The family has to take some responsibility rather than just saying any kid at all is going to be swept off the street and used as a sex slave. If your kid has run away, there is a problem in the home. I'm not excusing sex traffickers, but they couldn't function w/o vulnerable children to prey on.

You may be correct that Seattle or Washington state isn't as high on the list of human trafficking as the article suggests although it is a big problem here. Yes, the problem is worldwide, no doubt. Seattle or Washington does play a big role in it, since we do border Canada, have several international ports and large rural areas that some of those states don't have, and I'm not saying that we are the only state that does. Washington is/was unique in that we were one of the first to pass very strict laws against human trafficking, although few if any have been prosecuted under those laws because most of those crimes have been dealt with under other similar laws. Also understand that human trafficking isn't just about the sex trade. It also encompasses labor workers, whether for agriculture or sweat shops both here & abroad.

I do disagree about where traffickers get their victims.....atleast to a point. Yes many are runaways, but don't be so quick to discount kidnappings. The child porn/sex trafficking business problem includes infants, toddlers and the very young that wouldn't have the choice to runaway. There is always a good chance that unsolved kidnappings are for trafficking........especially when several are reported within a relatively short period of time. And don't forget those girls that were kept for years in that creeps basement or the other that was kept in a shed that finally escaped after years of confinement. None of them were runaways.

I also disagree about all runaways being victims of a bad home & the parents solely responsible. Yes many are such, but there are also many kids especially nowadays, that when they hit that rebellious stage & don't agree with home rules.....take off on their own. Other possibles would be a one parent home, the kid feels wronged in some way even though the parent is doing the best they can and the kid runs.

Kids under 18 (and even some older and many adults too) don't really know their ass from their elbow and are vulnerable to anyone with a slick story.

Unless you have studies to support

For those of you raising the issue of 'force' and 'consent'- the kids being discussed are too young to consent to sex - let alone consent to be pimped out for money.

Simple enough- if the guy is paying a 15 year old for sex- the guy is guilty.

I am not excusing sex trafficking, but the age of consent in Washington State is 16. It is most likely that most of the 'children' being discussed here are 16-17. Eighteen year olds are adults, so I don't imagine they are considered children, but in this discussion, probably 16-17 year olds (and younger) are. However, it is most likely 16+ year olds are those who are engaging in prostitution and are victims of sex trafficking. As I have already posted, Seattle is not the worst city in the US for sex trafficking as the article in the OP suggests as well as what the title of the thread suggests.

The girl in the article was 15 years old. Generally when child sex trafficking is being discussed it means those under the age of consent.

But I agree with you- I think the title is pretty misleading and unfair to Seattle.

 

[Syriusly]

This is why I support a mandatory death penalty for rape. After a few high profile executions, demand will drop precipitously.

And merely executing the pimps will not be enough. The federal government needs to execute the Johns too.

Nah... Reports of rape would drop, while missing persons, and homicides would skyrocket.

Unfortunately that would be an example of unintended consequences.

 

[Esmeralda]

I looked for anything that said Seattle was highly ranked for child sex trafficking in the US and didn't find anything.

`
The article was taken from a Seattle/northwest area source so I image they were posted about their area inclusively. I added that it is actually a national problem.

I think it is more an impression that the writer of the article had than based on any factual research or statistics. Like you said, it is alarmist, and I think shouldn't be published w/o facts to back it up, rather than an anecdotal situation by one mother.

The girl in the article was a runaway. Only a troubled kid is a runaway. The family has to take some responsibility rather than just saying any kid at all is going to be swept off the street and used as a sex slave. If your kid has run away, there is a problem in the home. I'm not excusing sex traffickers, but they couldn't function w/o vulnerable children to prey on.

You may be correct that Seattle or Washington state isn't as high on the list of human trafficking as the article suggests although it is a big problem here. Yes, the problem is worldwide, no doubt. Seattle or Washington does play a big role in it, since we do border Canada, have several international ports and large rural areas that some of those states don't have, and I'm not saying that we are the only state that does. Washington is/was unique in that we were one of the first to pass very strict laws against human trafficking, although few if any have been prosecuted under those laws because most of those crimes have been dealt with under other similar laws. Also understand that human trafficking isn't just about the sex trade. It also encompasses labor workers, whether for agriculture or sweat shops both here & abroad.

I do disagree about where traffickers get their victims.....atleast to a point. Yes many are runaways, but don't be so quick to discount kidnappings. The child porn/sex trafficking business problem includes infants, toddlers and the very young that wouldn't have the choice to runaway. There is always a good chance that unsolved kidnappings are for trafficking........especially when several are reported within a relatively short period of time. And don't forget those girls that were kept for years in that creeps basement or the other that was kept in a shed that finally escaped after years of confinement. None of them were runaways.

I also disagree about all runaways being victims of a bad home & the parents solely responsible. Yes many are such, but there are also many kids especially nowadays, that when they hit that rebellious stage & don't agree with home rules.....take off on their own. Other possibles would be a one parent home, the kid feels wronged in some way even though the parent is doing the best they can and the kid runs.

Kids under 18 (and even some older and many adults too) don't really know their ass from their elbow and are vulnerable to anyone with a slick story.

Unless you have studies to support

For those of you raising the issue of 'force' and 'consent'- the kids being discussed are too young to consent to sex - let alone consent to be pimped out for money.

Simple enough- if the guy is paying a 15 year old for sex- the guy is guilty.

I am not excusing sex trafficking, but the age of consent in Washington State is 16. It is most likely that most of the 'children' being discussed here are 16-17. Eighteen year olds are adults, so I don't imagine they are considered children, but in this discussion, probably 16-17 year olds (and younger) are. However, it is most likely 16+ year olds are those who are engaging in prostitution and are victims of sex trafficking. As I have already posted, Seattle is not the worst city in the US for sex trafficking as the article in the OP suggests as well as what the title of the thread suggests.

The girl in the article was 15 years old. Generally when child sex trafficking is being discussed it means those under the age of consent.

But I agree with you- I think the title is pretty misleading and unfair to Seattle.

It says in the article that King County police estimate that about 500 children are involved in sex work at any given time. I would be curious to know if they are referring to only 15 year old and younger or anyone below the age of 18. I think they are probably referring to anyone under the age of 18 as an18 year old is an adult.

King County population is 2,149,970 as of 2016. There are over 30 cities/towns in King County, not just Seattle, and many of those communities are quite large, are urban metropolitan areas. Of the population of about 2,149, 979 in King County, 500 is less than .025 percent. I'm not saying it's okay, but the article presents a skewed image of this problem in Seattle. So I feel the article in the OP is very misleading.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Unless you have studies to support

Huh?

 

[Jarlaxle]

This is why I support a mandatory death penalty for rape. After a few high profile executions, demand will drop precipitously.

And merely executing the pimps will not be enough. The federal government needs to execute the Johns too.

How many innocent people are you willing to kill to sate your bloodlust?

 

[Jarlaxle]

For those of you raising the issue of 'force' and 'consent'- the kids being discussed are too young to consent to sex - let alone consent to be pimped out for money.

Simple enough- if the guy is paying a 15 year old for sex- the guy is guilty.

How about a 17 year old?

Bear in mind: that is older than my uncle when he enlisted, and my grandmother when she got married.

 

[Marion Morrison]

someone woke up in an executing mood

People who rape cannot be rehabilitated. They should be shot in the head.

I disagree. They should be hanged publicly.