Cherokees expel descendants of slaves from tribe

Discussion in 'Law and Justice System' started by edjax1952, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. edjax1952
    Offline

    edjax1952 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    266
    Thanks Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Jacksonville, Fl
    Ratings:
    +34
    Cherokees expel descendants of slaves from tribe - Yahoo! News

     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  2. edjax1952
    Offline

    edjax1952 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    266
    Thanks Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Jacksonville, Fl
    Ratings:
    +34
    The article goes on to state:
     
  3. Mad Scientist
    Offline

    Mad Scientist Deplorable Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    23,940
    Thanks Received:
    5,212
    Trophy Points:
    270
    Ratings:
    +7,684
    Most people only know that the "Evil White Man" had slaves, hardly anyone knows that Indians had em too. Interesting that they say "The Tribe didn't have slaves but individual members did". It appears that "splitting hairs" has been going on forever.

    Morgan Freeman is a decedent of slaves owned by Indians.
     
  4. Xchel
    Offline

    Xchel Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    979
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    San Pedro Sula Honduras
    Ratings:
    +71
    actually they were called freedmen for a reason, they had been freed by the Cherokee...but the white men forced them to march the trail with the Cherokee to Oklahoma. I have no issue with not allowing them a voting rights membership...why? because they aren't Cherokee, it is quite that simple.
     
  5. William Joyce
    Offline

    William Joyce Chemotherapy for PC

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2004
    Messages:
    9,693
    Thanks Received:
    1,135
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Location:
    Caucasiastan
    Ratings:
    +1,349
    One of the nation's largest American Indian tribes has sent letters to about 2,800 descendants of slaves once owned by its members, revoking their citizenship and cutting their medical care, food stipends, low-income homeowners' assistance and other services.

    Nigga, dat is so cold...
     
  6. Xchel
    Offline

    Xchel Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    979
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    San Pedro Sula Honduras
    Ratings:
    +71
    How is it so cold William? They aren't Native American and they certainly aren't Cherokee. The ones that are Cherokee and can prove it don't lose their benefit. The acceptance in the tribe was something that was forced on them by the government in the first place.
     
  7. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,618
    Anyone whose family was forced on the TRIAL OF TEARS ought to have the right to claim membership of that tribe, I think.
     
  8. Tank
    Offline

    Tank Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Messages:
    13,966
    Thanks Received:
    1,760
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +4,015
    I have no issue with not allowing them a voting rights membership...why? because they aren't White, it is quite that simple.
     
  9. Xchel
    Offline

    Xchel Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    979
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    San Pedro Sula Honduras
    Ratings:
    +71
    being forced to walk the trail did not make a person suddenly convert into a Native American. The Cherokee from the Union abolished slavery creating a controversy in the tribe...at that point those Cherokee granted the Freedmen citizenship. In the 1980s the rules were ammended and you had to prove that you were Cherokee via the Dawes Rolls. Most of the Freedmen have not been active in the tribe in over 100 years and many more do not identify themselves as Cherokee..they aren't Cherokee of course. Why should they receive citizenship when actual Cherokee by blood are denied citizenship because their ancestors do not appear on the Dawes roll?

     
  10. edjax1952
    Offline

    edjax1952 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    266
    Thanks Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Jacksonville, Fl
    Ratings:
    +34
    Here we go again with claiming rights for special circumstance. Someones rights do not change because of outside influence. Rights are either of the unalienable type or they are granted by an authority who has the ability to establish and defend those rights(in which case they are actually priveldeges and not rights).

    What you are say is that before that, Trail of Tears, some did not have a claim to rights into the Cherokee Nation. After the Trail of Tears, they did. Not by the decison of the Cherokee Nation but by entitlement through a percieved justification of reward because of endured hardship. And you are deciding this to be mandated to the Cherokee Nation by what authority?
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2011

Share This Page