Check out how accurate these computer models are..

[Wyatt earp]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Finnaly we get people looking at real science and not trying to promote fear mongering propaganda....

More....

Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say



A study published in August by a Columbia University team led by climatologist Park Williams concluded that global warming has indeed shown itself in California, by increasing evaporation that has aggravated the current drought. But Williams said his research, the first to tease out the degree to which global warming is affecting California weather, did not show climate change to be a major cause of the drought.

Even climate ecologists who describe a strong tie between fire frequency and weather say they cannot attribute that connection to phenomena beyond normal, multi-decade variations seen throughout California history.

"There is insufficient data," said Matt Jolly of US forrest service.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Moonbeam Brown is a libtard idiot..

The sad part is there are some who will take his lies hook line and sinker without looking into the deception that Communist Brown has spewed to try and gain further control.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yep.....the climate change religion cares about the science until it doesnt fit their bomb thrower narrative. These cheesdicks have been babbling on and on and on and on and on and on for months now about this crap. Theres is zErO evidence linking this drought to climate change......many similar links have decimated the k00ks drought nonsense in recent months.

The hundred year historical graph of drought posted twice in this link? Completely and totally ignored by the k00ks in this thread.............as if it wasnt even posted.

All you need to know............

 

[IanC]

This happens all the time. Predictions of doom are made but the evidence produced to back them up are tenuous at best, often with non existent significance scientifically. I wish more people were scientifically literate so that this type of bullshit would get called out before the press releases are read by an unsuspecting public.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

Brow is a left wit Marxist bent on power and control of all land and monies while placing all people as servants tot he state. His rant has NOTHING TO DO WITH SAVING THE PLANET!

Please provide the link to the Cat 3 storm that shows it is made by CAGW..

 

[flacaltenn]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

Largest factor in East Pac Typhoons this year has been a recurring NATURAL cycle called El Nino.. Virtually IMPOSSIBLE to separate any "GW" signature from the magnitude of that natural surface warming..

 

[flacaltenn]

I WAS (and wish I could be) a continuing fan of Jerry Brown. He has a history as one of the most successful problem-solvers in politics. Thinks outside the box. Understands issues better than most politicians. But there is this side to him as Governor -- where platforms and partisan purity are getting in the way of actual action..

Can't help himself. Because as governor of a failing state -- he HAS to solicit help from the Fed. And one of the ways to do it -- is to validate GW and be vetted to access that massive funding stream..

 

[Wyatt earp]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

Largest factor in East Pac Typhoons this year has been a recurring NATURAL cycle called El Nino.. Virtually IMPOSSIBLE to separate any "GW" signature from the magnitude of that natural surface warming..

Sigh, its just a continuing theme with the AGW cult, they prey on the gullible college crowd and fear monger the low information voters....

 

[Wry Catcher]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

Brow is a left wit Marxist bent on power and control of all land and monies while placing all people as servants tot he state. His rant has NOTHING TO DO WITH SAVING THE PLANET!

Please provide the link to the Cat 3 storm that shows it is made by CAGW..

You are a right wing authoritarian dim wit intent on proving you are a right wing witless authoritarian bigot. Sadly you can't read in context, since your biases spoon fed by the oil and coal propaganda blocks out anything which challenges you. Thus you are well on your way to prove you are witless.

One data point proved little, but enough data points clustered suggests thinking people form a hypothesis. No laws or even theories were proffered in my post on the CAT 5 approaching Mexico, nor the volume of water dumping on Texas. That you don't understand that is telling.

But being a good liberal I try to help out the needy when possible. Not that they are always receptive, but on this forum I understand the willfully ignorant and the fools are rarely interested in facts or anything which would cause them discomfort (aka: Cognitive Dissonance).

"The principles and theories of science have been established through repeated experimentation and observation and have been refereed through peer review before general acceptance by the scientific community. Acceptance does not imply rigidity or constraint, or denote dogma. Instead, as new data become available, previous scientific explanations are revised and improved, or rejected and replaced. Science is a way of making sense of the world, with internally-consistent methods and principles that are well described. There is a progression from a hypothesis to a theory using testable, scientific laws. Only a few scientific facts are natural laws and many hypotheses are tested to generate a theory. Find out how scientific hypotheses, theories and laws describe the natural world"

LInk: Scientific Hypothesis, Theories and Laws

Dogma is what you offer, nothing more.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I was reading this article in the La times about how governor Brown was using fear mongering to equate the forrest fires with climate change check out this paragraph lmao....


Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say

" A team of researchers at UC Irvine recently reported that in 25 years, climate change will increase the size of fires driven by Santa Ana winds in Southern California. But their models varied on how much increase to expect: from 12% to 140%."

12--140% ???? Uhmmm ok ....

More....


Brown had political reasons for his declaration. (Forrest fires = Climate change)

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

Brown cares for the earth and our environment. Here's one date point on how different our climate is behaving:

Strongest hurricane on record heads for Mexico

It is simply one more example of how the climate is changing, the cause maybe elusive, the events suggest we ought to consider human activity as well as other potential sources, and to prepare our coastlines from an uncertain future.

Notwithstanding the use of fossil fuels and its likely or not impact on the climate, we know their use pollutes our air, water and soil. That is sufficient to begin to transition to green and renewable sources of energy.

Brow is a left wit Marxist bent on power and control of all land and monies while placing all people as servants tot he state. His rant has NOTHING TO DO WITH SAVING THE PLANET!

Please provide the link to the Cat 3 storm that shows it is made by CAGW..

You are a right wing authoritarian dim wit intent on proving you are a right wing witless authoritarian bigot. Sadly you can't read in context, since your biases spoon fed by the oil and coal propaganda blocks out anything which challenges you. Thus you are well on your way to prove you are witless.

One data point proved little, but enough data points clustered suggests thinking people form a hypothesis. No laws or even theories were proffered in my post on the CAT 5 approaching Mexico, nor the volume of water dumping on Texas. That you don't understand that is telling.

But being a good liberal I try to help out the needy when possible. Not that they are always receptive, but on this forum I understand the willfully ignorant and the fools are rarely interested in facts or anything which would cause them discomfort (aka: Cognitive Dissonance).

"The principles and theories of science have been established through repeated experimentation and observation and have been refereed through peer review before general acceptance by the scientific community. Acceptance does not imply rigidity or constraint, or denote dogma. Instead, as new data become available, previous scientific explanations are revised and improved, or rejected and replaced. Science is a way of making sense of the world, with internally-consistent methods and principles that are well described. There is a progression from a hypothesis to a theory using testable, scientific laws. Only a few scientific facts are natural laws and many hypotheses are tested to generate a theory. Find out how scientific hypotheses, theories and laws describe the natural world"

LInk: Scientific Hypothesis, Theories and Laws

Dogma is what you offer, nothing more.

Your dogma precedes you as a left wing power monger who will use any premise, even if a blatant or fabricated lie, to promote your left wing socialist ideology.

I have posted empirical evidence and facts. Your storm has broken up and its water vapor stream is all that is left of it. Your implication was clear, that is was solely caused by man made global warming. I am not the only one who noticed your obvious ploy.