Cheap Labor is Dead -- And maybe our hopes too.

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    What has Uncle Flacaltenn been trying to tell you since joining USMB? That the only way to
    protect America's standard of labor is to make "cheap labor irrelevant?" That what the American economy needed to do was to bring the 21st manufacturing model into existence with robotics, artificial intelligience, materials and bioscience.. Think I was just
    bloviating?

    Foxconn to employ 1 million robots in 3 years - Shenzhen Post

    One million robots -- 1.2Mill employees -- you do the math.. Not cheap OVERSEAS robots -- the article says -- but intelligient ones. Meaning that all the experience they have with
    manufacturing will be inserted into the robots brains.. What were the technologies we needed to pursue? Robotics, artificial intelligience, materials and bioscience? We're gonna lose our only chance to survive economically if we don't ACT NOW!!!!!

    Think the Central Politburo is gonna prohibit FoxConn from implementing their evil plan in order to protect CHINESE workers? Think that once they develop the 21st manufacturing skills and processes that AMERICAN workers are gonna be relevent at all?

    We were warned.. It is happening.. And we are arguing about the rich and the Tea Party..
    And the left won't even get to nag them about labor organizing or other economic Imperialism dogma.

    We're doomed if we don't wake up and start training and clearing the decks for this to happen HERE FIRST..
     
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    Are the robots designing, building and servicing themselves yet?
     
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    No in fact -- the shift is simply AWAY from unskilled labor and towards SKILLED labor. Because even a thousand robots doing the same thing need mentoring and babysitting.

    The reward for the country that leads the world in NEW manufacturing paradigms will be jobs at ALL levels of skill except the distribution won't be as pyramid like as it is now..
     
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    Sadly, this country is producing no technically skilled labour. Only semi-robotic Democrat voters indoctrinated by fraudulent Liberal Arts colleges selling what they falsely sell as "education".
     
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    But that's been the story of automation since day one.

    Used to be that over half of Americans were involved in farming, now it's somewhere around 3% and we've never produced more food.
     
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    We may have less FARMERS, but we have smarter farmers. (In the sense of what they NEED to know to survive).. But with less farmers came more jobs in farm equipment, servicing, supplies, biosciences, chemicals, processing.. The concept of co-ops developed and essentially a different labor structure that STILLs employs a respectable amount of folk.

    The Chinese realize the same inevitability. And they don't want US to implement a new manufacturing system that undercuts their primary strength in cheap labor..

    Foreign Cheap labor is no excuse to allow the US standard of labor and living to decline..
     
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    The USA has millions of political robots now.
     
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    Henry:

    One reform required is to push the teacher's unions out of the way and allow Virtual Education to take off. There is no reason in world why your last 2 years of High School and first 4 years of college shouldn't be individually tailored and self-paced ON-LINE instruction.. Many states are already fighting this battle. Your concern about QUALITY and COSTS would radically diminish. In fact, with quality material on-line, and laboratory facilities available in every metro area, you should be able to get a BS degree for under $10K/year while living at home. On-line instruction could feature MENTORING by the top folks in each field, not a tenured professor looking for someone to take his lectures.

    The final years of high school could be tracked for co-op work studies, technical school, or apprenticeships as well as allowing kids to pursue purely academic tracks. Imagine music biz students having one day a week with Paul McCartney as a guest lecturer. Or Steve Jobs doing a section on defining products that sell.

    Washington needs to get the hell out of the way.. Fire the GREEN jobs czar and find a JOBS czar who understands how to target the largest sectors of employment.

    Get those foreign profits BACK in the US by offering a lower rate for R&D investment with those funds. No skin off the Treasury's back to do that.

    And make certain that EVERY critter elected to Congress prefers R&D to subsidizing crap already designed and made. End the mindless subsidies and convert a fraction of that to "innovation subsidies". Rewards even for acheiving certain product goals..

    The rest of it will come naturally. We CAN be manufacturing stuff in this country again. The Chinese don't want us to have the opportunity to figure that out. THey figure we are paralyzed arguing with each other about the garage sale of what's left in America.. And they are right...
     
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    Ultimately, anything that increases efficiency and production will be good for everyone. Because these robots will be cheaper than workers (which they must be or their use makes no sense), all the saved resources will be free to be invested and spent in other areas of the economy, allowing for more growth in other sectors. Automation is a win-win.
     
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    A growing population with less need for unskilled and semi skilled labor is a shit storm of Biblical proportion waiting to happen.
     

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