Change we can believe in. The Peoples Republic of America

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    Universal Healthcare for All* Obama's Healthcare plan
    “We now face an opportunity — and an obligation — to turn the page on the failed politics of yesterday's health care debates… My plan begins by covering every American."Barack Obama

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Health Care

    Windfall profit tax on Oil to pay for social programs * Wealth redistrubition
    Obama says he would impose oil windfall profits tax | Reuters

    Tax on incomes above 250K* Wealth Redistrubution
    wcco.com - Obama Touts Payroll Tax On Incomes Above $250K

    Endorsed by the Communist Party*
    The US Communist Party Endorses Obama | Sweetness & Light

    Socialist Associations*

    William Ayers
    Carl Davidson
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Democratic Socialists of America
    Bernardine Dohrn
    Gamaliel Foundation
    New Party
    Socialist Scholars Conference


    "The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped
    education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more." Michelle Obama

    This is NOT what the United States is built on, it is NOT built on the principles of everyone has a right to have what their neighbor has. You want that, then go work for it, it's that simple. If you want the Peoples Republic of America then vote for Obama.
     
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    No recent president has been more Socialist than Bush. He's increased spending 3 points as a share of GDP over his Democratic predecessor, enacted the biggest move to socialized medicine since LBJ with Medicare Part D, and had a liberal spending agenda ranging on issues from No Child Left Behind to AIDS in Africa.

    Only difference with Bush socialism and the Dems is that his will be paid out of future tax increases. I don't like big gov't, but tax-and-spend certainly beats borrow-and-spend.
     
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    Isn't that what Palin did Wassila? Borrow and spend!
     
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    Isn't that what most all americans do is borrow and spend? I would say most everyone on this board borrow's and spends.
     
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    But isn't that why were are having such a problem with the housing market right now! And I don't borrow and spend. I learned early on it doesn't always work out well.
     
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    Not everyone can save enough to pay cash for a house or car. It takes people a lot of years to save for a down payment, just think how many more years it would take to save to pay 100% cash for the house.
     
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    I get that but these people didn't have the money to pay loan payments or the interests rates. They had no credit and had no business buying homes and mortgage companies didn't care.
     
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    I suppose, the message is lost here a little. The point is this, to take from those that pay the majority of taxes in this country as well as business to support the entire country for things such as Universal HealthCare is Socialism and one of the guiding principles of Socialism is "Wealth Redistribution". I put this here to illustrate, that Obama see's all people as social equals in that, they all have a born right to a house, a job and healthcare and in order to achieve this , he has in essence created a climate of class warefare, straight out of the Karl Marx playbook. This are Not the guiding principles of this country , you do NOT have a right to healthcare in this country, nor do you I have right to a job or a house. If you want those things in this country you have to go out and work for them. It is NOT the responsiblity of the entire nation to see to it that each citizen has the same as his or her neighbor.Again, if you want those things, go and get them. It didn't stop many Americans from rising from poverty to achieve great things, You think Gen. Colin Powell was born wealthy no he was born in Harlem ? or perhaps, someone like Bill Gates for that matter whos mom was a stay at home mom? No they achieved what that have by going out and getting the things in life that they wanted, thats what this country is about.
     
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    So those on the left, which party are you for? You are making the argument that the 'right' has delivered, are you sure you want to go there?
     
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    I really don't think Obama thinks that way and I might be wrong. I think he feels some people might need alittle help along the way. I also completly agree with his college tutition tax credits. The people in the middle class get screwed when it comes to college.
     

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