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Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
Since Obama is prez this will be okay, right? Remember the hissies libs threw over libraries and the patriot act?
From your link.................................
In the next few days, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to propose long-delayed regulations requiring auto manufacturers to include event data recorders better known as "black boxes" in all new cars and light trucks. But the agency is behind the curve. Automakers have been quietly tucking the devices, which automatically record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop, into most new cars for years.
When a car is involved in a crash or when its airbags deploy, inputs from the vehicle's sensors during the 5 to 10 seconds before impact are automatically preserved. That's usually enough to record things like how fast the car was traveling and whether the driver applied the brake, was steering erratically or had a seat belt on.
The idea is to gather information that can help investigators determine the cause of accidents and lead to safer vehicles. But privacy advocates say government regulators and automakers are spreading an intrusive technology without first putting in place policies to prevent misuse of the information collected.
Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
So............if automakers have already been doing this for years, how did Obama implement it?
Use of such a device would be illegal in that the US Constitution is silent on tyhe issue of electronic tracking of citizens by government officials
My vehicles will also be excluded. And there's nothing government can do about it.
If the federal or state government wants to waste expensive resources tracking down every auto that belongs to a person who does not want to have their movements tracked, they are free to give it a go.
Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
Since Obama is prez this will be okay, right? Remember the hissies libs threw over libraries and the patriot act?
From your link.................................
In the next few days, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to propose long-delayed regulations requiring auto manufacturers to include event data recorders better known as "black boxes" in all new cars and light trucks. But the agency is behind the curve. Automakers have been quietly tucking the devices, which automatically record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop, into most new cars for years.
When a car is involved in a crash or when its airbags deploy, inputs from the vehicle's sensors during the 5 to 10 seconds before impact are automatically preserved. That's usually enough to record things like how fast the car was traveling and whether the driver applied the brake, was steering erratically or had a seat belt on.
The idea is to gather information that can help investigators determine the cause of accidents and lead to safer vehicles. But privacy advocates say government regulators and automakers are spreading an intrusive technology without first putting in place policies to prevent misuse of the information collected.
Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
So............if automakers have already been doing this for years, how did Obama implement it?
Yes but now the government wants to go much further. The tracking of vehicle movements as means to levy taxes and God knows what else these pricks want to do.
The danger is, when no one is willing to watch the watchers.
If the watchers know they are not being watched, it is the same as possessing absolute power.
Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
Since Obama is prez this will be okay, right? Remember the hissies libs threw over libraries and the patriot act?
Since Obama is prez this will be okay, right? Remember the hissies libs threw over libraries and the patriot act?
Well, they have them on planes, don't they? They can help find the answers to why a plane crashed and what actions were taken by the pilot to correct the situation.
What is wrong with having them in cars? Someone crashes, the box could provide the answers as to whether the driver was speeding, had their seat belt off, etc. It could be a great help. Screw privacy, I don't think privacy matters here.
I am attempting to have a civil discussion and because you don't like my point of view , you decide an insult is necessary...From your link.................................
Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
So............if automakers have already been doing this for years, how did Obama implement it?
Yes but now the government wants to go much further. The tracking of vehicle movements as means to levy taxes and God knows what else these pricks want to do.
The danger is, when no one is willing to watch the watchers.
If the watchers know they are not being watched, it is the same as possessing absolute power.
Hey Stupid......................got any proof that this is going to happen?
My only questions are these: Who is going to make money off this deal, and what is their relationship to those in Washington?
This a all part of the federal government's plan to institute a "mileage tax".
Some states, Iowa for one, have floated the idea of tracking Iowa registered vehicles so that the State could tax the owner based on the mileage driven in the state.
The idea was met with an immediate backlash. Elected officials learned very quickly this idea would most likely cost them their careers in office.
Now, the federal government which has on the executive order of The Chosen One raised CAFE standard to over 50 mpg by 2025. Washington politicians seeing the possibility of a drastic reduction in fuel consumption is attempting to find ways to make up the lost revenue in fuel taxation. So the next step is to mandate tracking devices be installed in vehicles so that for one, the vehicle will be taxed on every mile driven. And of course the bonus is , the federal government can have a way to track our movements.
So where is the ACLU on this? NOWHERE.. The ACLU is not concerned with freedom. It is only concerned about cases where it can generate money for the ACLU.
Should this become law, people will find ways around it.
That mileage tax idea came out of the 2005 Highway Bill passed by Congress. The University of Iowa was commissioned to test-run the program in several states (the full test results are here). For what it's worth Obama's (Republican) Trans Sec Ray LaHood floated this idea at the beginning of the administration in 2009, and Obama slapped it down immediately.
Supposedly the idea is that current fuel per-gallon taxes have stagnated and failed to keep up with costs. It does not seem to have occurred to these brainiacs to simply raise the fuel tax; they would rather retrofit 250 million cars with spy boxes.
Use of such a device would be illegal in that the US Constitution is silent on tyhe issue of electronic tracking of citizens by government officials
You better look under your hood.
Yeah well you the Aussie girl should just shut up about it. You don't live here. You're not an American. You are excluded from having an opinion. We don't give a shit how you do things in your country, why do you concern yourself with our business?Car Black Boxes Raise Privacy Concerns
Since Obama is prez this will be okay, right? Remember the hissies libs threw over libraries and the patriot act?
Well, they have them on planes, don't they? They can help find the answers to why a plane crashed and what actions were taken by the pilot to correct the situation.
What is wrong with having them in cars? Someone crashes, the box could provide the answers as to whether the driver was speeding, had their seat belt off, etc. It could be a great help. Screw privacy, I don't think privacy matters here.
You make a good point - but I think if the pros outweigh the cons, then maybe they could be used on a trial basis.
a federal requirement that automakers disclose their existence in owner's manuals didn't go into effect until three months ago.
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear...
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear...
