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What you are pretending is that the congress gave them some PHONEY numbers to skew the results.
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Zero profit is the correct number for healthcare providers. Non-profit can work, there's no need for anyone to profiteer from caring for the sick.
But it is OK for someone to profit from furnishing food?
It is OK for sonmeone to profit from furnishing clothing?
You do realize that quality of good and services is predicated on the desire to make a profit?
Exactly how many people will want to become a doctor if they willnot make money doing it?
Exactly what will be the driving force to ensure good and efficient customer service in the inusrance industry if there is 0 profit to be earned?
Stop assuming all is perfect. A non profit insurance company may be a bit cheaper....but it will also give much less service....less efficient service...and if it is government run? In esence a monololy and not making a profit?
It will be a disaster.
Why do you pretend that is what was said?
So, all the government solutions to healthcare are broke, that's why we need one more, bigger than ever government solution to healthcare?
Is a 3%-4% profit margin "rape?"
Zero profit is the correct number for healthcare providers. Non-profit can work, there's no need for anyone to profiteer from caring for the sick.
What you are pretending is that the congress gave them some PHONEY numbers to skew the results.
But it is OK for someone to profit from furnishing food?
It is OK for sonmeone to profit from furnishing clothing?
You do realize that quality of good and services is predicated on the desire to make a profit?
Exactly how many people will want to become a doctor if they willnot make money doing it?
Exactly what will be the driving force to ensure good and efficient customer service in the inusrance industry if there is 0 profit to be earned?
Stop assuming all is perfect. A non profit insurance company may be a bit cheaper....but it will also give much less service....less efficient service...and if it is government run? In esence a monololy and not making a profit?
It will be a disaster.
Why do you pretend that is what was said?
Why do I pretend what was what was said?
NYCarbineer said that no one should make a profit on medical care.
Well, logic says that if there is 0 profit then the only one willing to run a business so vast without a profit would be the government.
One entity makes it a monopoly...a non profit monopoly.
So what am I pretending?
What you are pretending is that the congress gave them some PHONEY numbers to skew the results.
Why do you pretend that is what was said?
Why do I pretend what was what was said?
NYCarbineer said that no one should make a profit on medical care.
Well, logic says that if there is 0 profit then the only one willing to run a business so vast without a profit would be the government.
One entity makes it a monopoly...a non profit monopoly.
So what am I pretending?
I think you are misunderstanding. He didnt say doctors should make money, he was referring to health insurance companies. They are the ones who are adding no value in to the healthcare equation and thus dont deserve a profit.
You just dont get it.
Those results are based on data given to them...not actual data.
The entire healthcare law issue was the validity of the numbers offered by Reid....
I find it interesting that the article did not explain HOW it will increase the deficit when, in fact, a repeal would eliminate government involvement in healthcare.
What value do insurance companies provide in to the health care equation? Next to nothing. Their only real value could probably come in the form of catastrophic coverage but their involvement in the day to day care of the people of this country is unnecessary and a root cause of the inflated costs we face today.
Why do I pretend what was what was said?
NYCarbineer said that no one should make a profit on medical care.
Well, logic says that if there is 0 profit then the only one willing to run a business so vast without a profit would be the government.
One entity makes it a monopoly...a non profit monopoly.
So what am I pretending?
I think you are misunderstanding. He didnt say doctors should make money, he was referring to health insurance companies. They are the ones who are adding no value in to the healthcare equation and thus dont deserve a profit.
Insurance companies are the ones who furnish the cash flow for the claims.
They absolutely add value just as life insurance companies add value as do any insurance companies add value to the system they are applied to.
Without an insurance company continually investing and divesting to maximize returns, exactly how can they pay out a 300K claim to an individual who had only put in 120K over their first ten years as insured?
I am sure you know how insurance companies work....they are required and play an integral role in the industry they cater to.
What value do insurance companies provide in to the health care equation? Next to nothing. Their only real value could probably come in the form of catastrophic coverage but their involvement in the day to day care of the people of this country is unnecessary and a root cause of the inflated costs we face today.
If this is true, then why do you have insurance?
I see it as a safety net...not for my day to day care....but for the concern of catastrophic.
I have auto insurance (collission) as a safety net. Havent had an accident in 30 years...but worth having just in case.
People do not have insurance to save on the $120 6 month appointment. They have it for the 200K claimn they may God forbid have one day.
What you are pretending is that the congress gave them some PHONEY numbers to skew the results.
What value do insurance companies provide in to the health care equation? Next to nothing. Their only real value could probably come in the form of catastrophic coverage but their involvement in the day to day care of the people of this country is unnecessary and a root cause of the inflated costs we face today.
If this is true, then why do you have insurance?
I see it as a safety net...not for my day to day care....but for the concern of catastrophic.
I have auto insurance (collission) as a safety net. Havent had an accident in 30 years...but worth having just in case.
People do not have insurance to save on the $120 6 month appointment. They have it for the 200K claimn they may God forbid have one day.
I have insurance because thats unfortunately how our system operates today. Like I said before the only real value I can see insurance companies providing value is in the catastrophic coverage area. But their involvement in everything healthcare down to your average DR visit and being able to get your meds is where they dont need to be.
RDD...they invest those premiums...they do more than take it in and shell out 95% of it in claims and operating costs...
They invest it and allow those premiums to make money. This allows them to keep the premiums as low as possible, still be able to pay out the claims, still employ the tens of thousands of people, and still make a profit for those with the headaches of running the business.