Catholics are Christians?

[Mudda]

lol, at the end there, I really thought you were going to say: And most of all - your money.
Thanks for the laugh this early in the day.

God knows that I just can't believe in something for which I see no real proof. He understands. Well... unless he's some massive asshole who can't wait to toss me in a pit of burning fire for all eternity.

Punish you for not believing the unbelievable. That's what Christians are basically saying. But you and I know the story is a man made lie.

God does not punish us. He wants us to trust and obey. There is a reason we are here, and it stares everyone in the face daily. But we just don't want to see it because we are programmed to believe that we live our lives for ourselves, our family - not for our Creator.

What is so unbelievable about it?

People have no problem believing in aliens, ghosts, witchcraft, mediums, and the list goes on...
People even have an easier time believe in Satan than God

The message you should be hearing from Christians is this: there is only 1 reason for being here, to live for and serve God. Going to Hell is your choice alone.

Why doesn't God just create us in heaven? What's this step all about? And what was the purpose of the dinosaurs and trilobites that ruled for millions of years before dinosaurs were even born?

If we are so important, why have we only existed for the last 40 seconds of the cosmic calendar year? Why did it take God 13 billion years to make us. If we were important, you think we would have been invented in February, not December 31st at 11:59:20.

We're not in heaven right now because Adam wanted to bang a chick and god got pissed and booted him out. Now how gay is that?

Where do you come up with that stuff? Sounds like you are reading everything except anything that is credible... either way, you won't be convinced. People here have told you truth, seeds have been planted, maybe someone else will have to do the reaping....

In the garden of eden, god told adam not to eat the hetero apple and to stay with him in homo heaven. So when Adam listened to the phallic snake and ate the forbidden fruit and then banged the chick, god was pissed and tossed them both out of eden.
Did I miss something?

 

[Mudda]

God is more powerful than the internet. You can't "lose" your salvation.....

Yet I get contacted by the internet every day, several times a day even.

God? Not once. I should ask the church for my money back.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Are you aware that there is very little in the world that will make something seem desirable than the fact that you oppose it? Seriously, the more you hate something, the more you should never, ever speak about it. You are to respectable opinions what anti-matter is to matter.

So you know the factual truth but care not to believe the factual truth.

Sharp as a sack of wet mice, as usual. I applaud your consistency, if nothing else.

 

[OnePercenter]

Until you admit to your sins and change your life so you no longer commit them, you aren't taking responsibility for your actions. You are just in denial.

And since the only way to overcome sin is through an infinite atonement, you will need Christ.

Is that what the profiteers have you believing? You're a sheep!

 

[OnePercenter]

God does not punish us. He wants us to trust and obey. There is a reason we are here, and it stares everyone in the face daily. But we just don't want to see it because we are programmed to believe that we live our lives for ourselves, our family - not for our Creator.

What is so unbelievable about it?

People have no problem believing in aliens, ghosts, witchcraft, mediums, and the list goes on...
People even have an easier time believe in Satan than God

The message you should be hearing from Christians is this: there is only 1 reason for being here, to live for and serve God. Going to Hell is your choice alone.

Aliens, ghosts, witchcraft, mediums, and organized religion are for entertainment purposes only, not to be taken seriously.

 

[Bonzi]

God does not punish us. He wants us to trust and obey. There is a reason we are here, and it stares everyone in the face daily. But we just don't want to see it because we are programmed to believe that we live our lives for ourselves, our family - not for our Creator.

What is so unbelievable about it?

People have no problem believing in aliens, ghosts, witchcraft, mediums, and the list goes on...
People even have an easier time believe in Satan than God

The message you should be hearing from Christians is this: there is only 1 reason for being here, to live for and serve God. Going to Hell is your choice alone.

Aliens, ghosts, witchcraft, mediums, and organized religion are for entertainment purposes only, not to be taken seriously.

.... and people take them so much more seriously.... I would say I don't understand, but I do....

 

[Avatar4321]

No, you just are not opening your heart to hear him is my guess --- I don't claim to speak for others.
If you saw God and he spoke to you, would you be willing to stop living for yourself, and live to honor and please Him only?

I seriously doubt that god needs me to live my whole life honouring and pleasing him. That doesn't even make any sense that god would make beings for the sole purpose of having drones to worship him, that would have to be one HUGE ego. I'll pass on that god and find one that's not so vain.

So no, you wouldn't. Which is precisely why you don't hear the Lord. You don't sincerely want to know Him.

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That just tells me you aren't taking responsibility for your actions.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Why doesn't God just create us in heaven? What's this step all about?

^^^

This is what I would like to know. What kind of game is this?

the one where he separates those who choose to love him by faith alone from those who would only love him if given no other choices....

 

[Avatar4321]

So no, you wouldn't. Which is precisely why you don't hear the Lord. You don't sincerely want to know Him.

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Did I miss something?

the part where you actually think......

 

[PostmodernProph]

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

personally I expect it to involve more fly fishing and body surfing.......

 

[Avatar4321]

If god wants my love, he just has to come and get it. With something tangible as proof. And a book won't cut it.

How funny. When I was a toddler with my little picture books of Bible stories written for children, the conclusion I drew from them was, "People can have meet God! I want to be like one of those people who actually run into God, not just someone who believes in God." My own faith, seeking, knocking, asking took the better part of a decade. Many adults don't seem to want to commit that amount of time and effort. Their attitude is not one of a child, of "This is possible!" Instead, they shrug and take on the attitude, "If God wants me, He can come and get me!"

God can wait. He has an eternity. On the other hand, we have less than a century. Scripture tells us that it makes no difference if we choose to seek God when we are children, or very late in our lives.

Scripture is a load of make up malarkey, I need some real proof. Anyone can write a book.

Prove it. Write scripture.

 

[sealybobo]

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

What were you doing a year before you were conceived? That's what it'll be like when your dead.

Better cherish every moment. And don't blink.

 

[Avatar4321]

I can find my TV and can see and touch it. Making it real.
Or are you trying to say that God works by remote control buttons?

I'm suggesting you not give up.

Give up waiting for God to contact me? Well, I'm not holding my breath or anything...

I wouldn't recommend holding your breath either. Until you are willing to experiment on the Word and sincerely seek God with a desire to serve Him when you find Him, He is not going to reveal Himself to you.

But you will be held accountable for your choices. You will be held accountable for what you could have known if you simply put in the effort. It's amazing though how accurately prophets have described exactly your attitude.

When you and I talk to people about faith and belief, don’t we often hear, “I wish I could believe the way you do”?

Implied in such a statement is another of Satan’s deceptions: that belief is available to some people but not to others. There is no magic to belief. But wanting to believe is the necessary first step! God is no respecter of persons.6 He is your Father. He wants to speak to you. However, it requires a little scientific curiosity—it requires an experiment upon the word of God—and the exercise of a “particle of faith.”7 It also takes a little humility. And it requires an open heart and an open mind. It requires seeking, in the full meaning of the word. And, perhaps hardest of all, it requires being patient and waiting upon the Lord.

If we make no effort to believe, we are like the man who unplugs a spotlight and then blames the spotlight for not giving any light.

Recently I was surprised and saddened to hear of an Aaronic Priesthood bearer who seemed to take pride in the fact that he had distanced himself from God. He said, “If God reveals Himself to me, then I will believe. Until then, I will find the truth relying on my own understanding and intellect to light the way before me.”

I don’t know this young man’s heart, but I couldn’t help but feel terribly sorry for him. How easily he rejected the gifts the Lord was offering him. This young man had unplugged the spotlight and then seemed self-satisfied in his clever observation that there was no light.

Unfortunately, this seems to be quite a popular attitude today. If we can put the burden of proof on God, we think we can excuse ourselves from taking God’s commandments seriously and from taking responsibility for our relationship with our Heavenly Father. (Be not afraid, only believe)

I sincerely seeked and believed in god for over 30 years. Sorry I woke up. You know what did it? The internet.

How the Internet Is Taking Away America’s Religion | MIT Technology Review

You gave up. Doesn't mean God isn't real

 

[sealybobo]

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

Imagine how many humans have lived and died since humans evolved into modern humans. Billions or trillions.

What are you and god doing? How often do you two hang out? Is it like a cult?

 

[Avatar4321]

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

What were you doing a year before you were conceived? That's what it'll be like when your dead.

Better cherish every moment. And don't blink.

Why do you expect my answer to change. We dwelt with God before we were born. We will dwell with Him again if we accept His grace.

 

[Avatar4321]

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

Imagine how many humans have lived and died since humans evolved into modern humans. Billions or trillions.

What are you and god doing? How often do you two hang out? Is it like a cult?

What do the amount of people who have lived have to do with anything?

It doesn't change reality. We dwelt with Him before our births, we can continue to dwell with Him after we die and rise again.

 

[Mudda]

I seriously doubt that god needs me to live my whole life honouring and pleasing him. That doesn't even make any sense that god would make beings for the sole purpose of having drones to worship him, that would have to be one HUGE ego. I'll pass on that god and find one that's not so vain.

So no, you wouldn't. Which is precisely why you don't hear the Lord. You don't sincerely want to know Him.

Or else he's not really there because all he has to do is to show me that he's real and I'll believe.

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That just tells me you aren't taking responsibility for your actions.

What makes you say that? I'm a stand-up guy.

 

[Mudda]

Did I miss something?

the part where you actually think......

You have nothing, stfu fool.

 

[Mudda]

No you wouldn't. You just admitted you wouldn't change a thing if you know God. You have no intention of believing a thing He would tell you. He knows your heart you can't deceive Him.

If God proves himself real to me, I'd believe. I live a pretty good life, so not really much if anything to change. Well, except give money to a church to be let into heaven.

That's not what relationship with and believe in God is about.
It's about realizing it is all about HIM. You think it's selfish, but to someone that knows God, it's an HONOR to live your life for Him and His Kingdom. Not only that, live is more FULFILLING and MEANINGFUL living as a Christian - live for God. Because a Christian knows life is eternal and our time on this earth is but a millisecond. A small sacrifice to make to live for Him during this tiny time of our life.

People give money to the Church for Evangelism and of course, salaries and building upkeep etc.

God wants your heart and your loyalty. And most of all - your love.

What were you doing 13 billion years before you were born? Why would you believe it will be any different after you die?

Dwelling with God. I expect it to be the same after I die.

personally I expect it to involve more fly fishing and body surfing.......

Fly fishing in hell, now that's a new one.