Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800

[Cellblock2429]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

/--- OK Sparky, let's do the math. US created 227,000 jobs in January, vs 175,000 jobs expected
www.cnbc.com/2017/02/03/us-nonfarm-payrolls-jan-2017.html So 227,000 - 150 = 226,850 jobs created. Happy now?

Most of those jobs were already planned before Trump was elected. Obama was given 800,000 jobs per month job loss, and turned it into 75 months of continuous job increases. There hasn't been enough time for anything Trump has done to effect job growth.

/---- Another Lib lie. Actually Obozo lost jobs. Obama's Record on Manufacturing Jobs - FactCheck.org

 

[BULLDOG]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

/--- OK Sparky, let's do the math. US created 227,000 jobs in January, vs 175,000 jobs expected
www.cnbc.com/2017/02/03/us-nonfarm-payrolls-jan-2017.html So 227,000 - 150 = 226,850 jobs created. Happy now?

Most of those jobs were already planned before Trump was elected. Obama was given 800,000 jobs per month job loss, and turned it into 75 months of continuous job increases. There hasn't been enough time for anything Trump has done to effect job growth.

/---- Another Lib lie. Actually Obozo lost jobs. Obama's Record on Manufacturing Jobs - FactCheck.org

Yes. There were a lot of jobs lost at the first of his presidency until his programs started reversing the crash he inherited. It took about a year to stop the free fall and reverse things. Perhaps this graph from your link will help you understand what happened.

 

[aris2chat]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-caterpillar-restructuring-idUSKBN17332M
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

Union workers approved a severance package.

>>“Moving production from Aurora to other existing facilities allows Caterpillar to efficiently leverage manufacturing space while still preserving capacity for an upturn,” <<

 

[Cellblock2429]

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

/--- OK Sparky, let's do the math. US created 227,000 jobs in January, vs 175,000 jobs expected
www.cnbc.com/2017/02/03/us-nonfarm-payrolls-jan-2017.html So 227,000 - 150 = 226,850 jobs created. Happy now?

Most of those jobs were already planned before Trump was elected. Obama was given 800,000 jobs per month job loss, and turned it into 75 months of continuous job increases. There hasn't been enough time for anything Trump has done to effect job growth.

/---- Another Lib lie. Actually Obozo lost jobs. Obama's Record on Manufacturing Jobs - FactCheck.org

Yes. There were a lot of jobs lost at the first of his presidency until his programs started reversing the crash he inherited. It took about a year to stop the free fall and reverse things. Perhaps this graph from your link will help you understand what happened.

/---- Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time | Zero Hedge

 

[hardcoreconservative98]

I don't recall Trump ever promising that he would stop every single plant in the Midwest from ever closing and laying off workers again, ever. He never promised that. He said he would do what he could to bring back manufacturing jobs and stop the bleeding of said jobs, which he has already begun to achieve with his Carrier deal saving the jobs of hundreds of workers, as well as deals with other companies whose CEOs are going to invest billions here and create thousands of jobs, including the Sprint deal.

Those of us who supported Trump were under no illusions that no manufacturing plant would ever shut down again. This isn't a "broken promise", it's a fact of life. Plants close down at times.

 

[hardcoreconservative98]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

And the fact that a private corporation's chain in Illinois decided to shut down a plant to save money is Trump's fault .... because? Was every single plant that closed down under Obama's eight years his direct fault too? No.

Fucking idiot.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I don't recall Trump ever promising that he would stop every single plant in the Midwest from ever closing and laying off workers again, ever. He never promised that. He said he would do what he could to bring back manufacturing jobs and stop the bleeding of said jobs, which he has already begun to achieve with his Carrier deal saving the jobs of hundreds of workers, as well as deals with other companies whose CEOs are going to invest billions here and create thousands of jobs, including the Sprint deal.

Those of us who supported Trump were under no illusions that no manufacturing plant would ever shut down again. This isn't a "broken promise", it's a fact of life. Plants close down at times.

 

[AsherN]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

That's still 800 people losing their jobs. Somehow, I don't think those folks will be relocated to the new positions.

 

[BULLDOG]

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

/--- OK Sparky, let's do the math. US created 227,000 jobs in January, vs 175,000 jobs expected
www.cnbc.com/2017/02/03/us-nonfarm-payrolls-jan-2017.html So 227,000 - 150 = 226,850 jobs created. Happy now?

Most of those jobs were already planned before Trump was elected. Obama was given 800,000 jobs per month job loss, and turned it into 75 months of continuous job increases. There hasn't been enough time for anything Trump has done to effect job growth.

/---- Another Lib lie. Actually Obozo lost jobs. Obama's Record on Manufacturing Jobs - FactCheck.org

Yes. There were a lot of jobs lost at the first of his presidency until his programs started reversing the crash he inherited. It took about a year to stop the free fall and reverse things. Perhaps this graph from your link will help you understand what happened.

/---- Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time | Zero Hedge

Like I already said, Trump hasn't been in office long enough to have an effect on jobs. If there were part time jobs before, the ones this month will still be about the same percentage of part time jobs.

 

[BULLDOG]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

And about 150 workers will be shit canned. Thanks a lot Trump.

And the fact that a private corporation's chain in Illinois decided to shut down a plant to save money is Trump's fault .... because? Was every single plant that closed down under Obama's eight years his direct fault too? No.

Fucking idiot.

Of course they weren't his fault, but the right blamed him for it. You can't have it both ways. Either job losses and gains are the result of many factors, or they are all laid at the president's feet. Trump has chosen to claim credit for all gains, even when he had nothing to do with them, sooooo

 

[aris2chat]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

That's still 800 people losing their jobs. Somehow, I don't think those folks will be relocated to the new positions.

Workers at Aurora agreed to it.

Trump did not want to stop businesses who move within the US only to prevent the loss of jobs leaving the country.

Caterpillar is doing this so they can grow more efficiently at other locations.

UAW approves contract with Caterpillar
Herald & Review-Mar 27, 2017
Some 5,000 UAW members in 11 Caterpillar facilities across Illinois and ... The union said this will expand options and deliver cost savings.

CAT moving 500 jobs to Decatur, closing Aurora plant
Herald & Review-14 hours ago
“We are really fortunate that Caterpillar wants to expand their footprint here in this community,” he said. “We must be doing something right.”.

 

[BULLDOG]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

That's still 800 people losing their jobs. Somehow, I don't think those folks will be relocated to the new positions.

Workers at Aurora agreed to it.

Trump did not want to stop businesses who move within the US only to prevent the loss of jobs leaving the country.

Caterpillar is doing this so they can grow more efficiently at other locations.

UAW approves contract with Caterpillar
Herald & Review-Mar 27, 2017
Some 5,000 UAW members in 11 Caterpillar facilities across Illinois and ... The union said this will expand options and deliver cost savings.

CAT moving 500 jobs to Decatur, closing Aurora plant
Herald & Review-14 hours ago
“We are really fortunate that Caterpillar wants to expand their footprint here in this community,” he said. “We must be doing something right.”.

 

[aris2chat]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

/---- What you neglected to mention: "Out of about 800 production positions, about 500 positions would likely be added to Decatur and about 150 positions would be added in North Little Rock," Caterpillar spokeswoman Lisa Miller told Reuters.

That's still 800 people losing their jobs. Somehow, I don't think those folks will be relocated to the new positions.

Workers at Aurora agreed to it.

Trump did not want to stop businesses who move within the US only to prevent the loss of jobs leaving the country.

Caterpillar is doing this so they can grow more efficiently at other locations.

UAW approves contract with Caterpillar
Herald & Review-Mar 27, 2017
Some 5,000 UAW members in 11 Caterpillar facilities across Illinois and ... The union said this will expand options and deliver cost savings.

CAT moving 500 jobs to Decatur, closing Aurora plant
Herald & Review-14 hours ago
“We are really fortunate that Caterpillar wants to expand their footprint here in this community,” he said. “We must be doing something right.”.

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Why so angry if Caterpillar is expending? Most jobs are moving from one plant to another not out of the country.
Workers agreed to this.

Would you rather company only grow overseas instead or go belly up and all jobs are lost?

Trump does not have a problem with jobs moving from town to town or state to state. Taxes, benefits, regulations ability to improve and expand............

Caterpillar need to modernize and develop more technically deficient vehicle and other locations will allow them to do that and keep expanding.

The US will have more than a million news jobs in the next few years and you are having a hissy fit because workers agreed to the closing of one plant and most jobs going to another location.

Caterpillar is expanding jobs outside the US as well for local markets over there. Shipping vehicles to africa and asia from the US is not efficient when they already have factories there. Some require steering on the other side than US vehicles and it does not make sense for factories in the US to build both at higher cost and still ship them around the world.

Caterpillar is growing and with changes will keep doing so for many years to come. Same logic as getting european and asian car companies to build in plant here for our markets and avoid import tariffs.

You are complaining about a distance of about 130 miles within the same state where they have more space. Many people travel a lot farther to get to work each day by car, train or plane. I know people who spend a lot more than two hours to drive to work each day.

 

[BULLDOG]

You don't get what I'm saying at all, do you? I understand that job losses and gains are more about the individual companies doing what is best for themselves, and that any policies that encourage or discourage job growth take time to implement, and even longer to show any effect whatsoever.
The orange clown has claimed credit for every job he hears about even though he hasn't been in office long enough for anything he has done to make a bit of difference. Taking the president's lead in this matter, I have to give him responsibility for every single job loss. If the sweet little old lady at the flower shop retires, I am bound by his precedent to blame him.

 

[aris2chat]

You don't get what I'm saying at all, do you? I understand that job losses and gains are more about the individual companies doing what is best for themselves, and that any policies that encourage or discourage job growth take time to implement, and even longer to show any effect whatsoever.
The orange clown has claimed credit for every job he hears about even though he hasn't been in office long enough for anything he has done to make a bit of difference. Taking the president's lead in this matter, I have to give him responsibility for every single job loss. If the sweet little old lady at the flower shop retires, I am bound by his precedent to blame him.

Trump negotiated with several companies to keep jobs in the US or to bring jobs here. Why should he not be credited for those? Ending over regulations so companies can keep jobs or expand, why should he not get credit for those.

A flower shop does not have reason to get Trump to negotiate for someone that is able and wanting to retire or to make the shop keep her on instead of hiring someone that needs a job when she leaves.

If a company gives workers a good enough incentive for them to retire early or accept a job loss, how is that a bad thing for jobs, the company, the economy or to be blamed on Trump?

Maybe they get company stocks or a training program for a different type of work. The workers agreed to the offer from Caterpillar. What is you beef if they are happy? Worker were not just let go, they voted and agreed to the severance. Most of the jobs are being moved to another plant within the same state.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-caterpillar-restructuring-idUSKBN17332M
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

I'm surprised any business functions in Illinois given what a horrible business climate the state fosters.

 

[aris2chat]

Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Friday it will shut its Aurora, Illinois, plant, costing about 800 employees their jobs as the world's largest construction and mining equipment maker shifts production to other U.S. facilities.

Caterpillar was among companies that met with President Donald Trump in February to talk about job creation, at a time when about 2,300 U.S. workers at five major manufacturing companies stand to lose their jobs within the next two years as a result of offshoring.

Caterpillar shuts plant in Aurora, Illinois, that employs 800
Agent Orange has been informed, will stop this travesty after that daily meeting with his defense attorneys

first things first

I'm surprised any business functions in Illinois given what a horrible business climate the state fosters.

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[Camp]

How are those Cat jobs and factories doing over in Russia?

 

[aris2chat]

How are those Cat jobs and factories doing over in Russia?

Caterpillar to start producing excavators in Russia | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/caterpillar-russia-idUSN1164323720080312
Mar 11, 2008 - The plant, near St. Petersburg, currently makes parts that are exported to Caterpillar plants in Western Europe. The announcement came as ...

Obama's watch

 

[BULLDOG]

You don't get what I'm saying at all, do you? I understand that job losses and gains are more about the individual companies doing what is best for themselves, and that any policies that encourage or discourage job growth take time to implement, and even longer to show any effect whatsoever.
The orange clown has claimed credit for every job he hears about even though he hasn't been in office long enough for anything he has done to make a bit of difference. Taking the president's lead in this matter, I have to give him responsibility for every single job loss. If the sweet little old lady at the flower shop retires, I am bound by his precedent to blame him.

Trump negotiated with several companies to keep jobs in the US or to bring jobs here. Why should he not be credited for those? Ending over regulations so companies can keep jobs or expand, why should he not get credit for those.

A flower shop does not have reason to get Trump to negotiate for someone that is able and wanting to retire or to make the shop keep her on instead of hiring someone that needs a job when she leaves.

If a company gives workers a good enough incentive for them to retire early or accept a job loss, how is that a bad thing for jobs, the company, the economy or to be blamed on Trump?

Maybe they get company stocks or a training program for a different type of work. The workers agreed to the offer from Caterpillar. What is you beef if they are happy? Worker were not just let go, they voted and agreed to the severance. Most of the jobs are being moved to another plant within the same state.

Trump claims to have negotiated with lots of companies, and ended up bribing carrier to keep the jobs that were never intended to be exported anyway. How about listing the jobs that Trump is responsible for. That would exclude all the jobs that he only claimed credit for, but had nothing to do with.