Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreigners, Fires 300 American Professionals

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Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreign Graduates, Fires 300 American Professionals - Breitbart

Caterpillar is firing 300 American employees in Mossville, Illinois, even though it is continuing to recruit and pay foreign ā€œH-1Bā€ guest-workers to do the white-collar jobs sought by American professionals in the United States.
Caterpillarā€™s combination of white-collars layoffs and H-1B outsourcing matches the much-criticized decision by Carrier, a company in next-door Indiana, to outsource 1,400 blue-collar factory jobs to Mexico.

Outsider GOP candidate Donald Trump has vigorously denounced the outsourcing by Carrierā€™s air-conditioning business. His opposition has helped him get a nine-point polling advantage in the state. But Trumpā€™s support for major reforms to the H-1B program to reduce the outsourcing of professional jobs is raising his support among upper-income professional-class voters in many other states.

The Caterpillar outsourcing ā€œis all the same thing happening over and over again,ā€™ said John Miano, a lawyer and software expert who has sued the federal government to reduce or stop various outsourcing programs, such as the H-1B visa. ā€œWhat we see is that companies ask for more [H-1B visas] while theyā€™re laying off the same kind of [American professionals] ā€¦ this is going to be an election that decides whether this continues,ā€ Miano said.

Early in 2016, Caterpillar asked the federal government for 71 H-1B visas needed to hire foreign white-collar college-grads. At least 30 of the requested H-1B visas are for engineers and other skilled professionals in Mossville, which is suffering the most layoffs.

At least 44 of the visas requested in 2016 are for foreign graduates who are already working at Caterpillar in the United States. These ā€œcontinuationā€ visas are automatically approved, and do not count against the much touted annual limits on H1-B visas.

Another 22 of Caterpillarā€™s visas are for new hires.

Since 2012, Caterpillar has requested 768 visas for H-1B workers. Roughly speaking, companies get one-fifth of the H-1B visas they request, suggesting the company has outsourced at least 100 U.S.-based jobs to lower-wage foreign graduates.

The visa allows the H-1B workers to stay for at least three years, and some manage to stay permanently. For example, the company has also helped get green cards ā€” the precursor to citizenship ā€” for roughly 70 foreign college graduates. Most of these green card employees have replaced Americans software graduates

While Trump has promised to reform the controversial H-1B program as part of his plan to ensure that immigration law helps Americans before companies or foreign workers, Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter of the H-1B program, and her foundation has tried to hire more than 130 foreign professionals in place of young Americans.

That political difference over white-collar outsourcing may become critical in the new few weeks when Trump tries to raise his support among college graduates.

Trump is already doing well among blue-collar families, party because of his promise to start enforcing existing laws that bar the hiring of illegals. But Trump is doing poorly among college-graduates, partly because few white-collar workers yet recognize the pocketbook impact to them of federal immigration practices. Fewer still know that states are also allowing illegal immigrants to work in professional jobs.

American professionals prefer to ignore the threat from the governmentā€™s H-1B program, said Miano. ā€œThey all all think ā€˜Iā€™m goodā€¦ if I keep up my skills, I donā€™t have anything to worry aboutā€™ ā€” but they donā€™t know these [hiring] decisions are being made by accountants who have no idea what their skills are,ā€ he said.

That outsourcing process is a huge threat to the middle class because it is ā€œcutting off the ability of people to rise up,ā€ he said. ā€œThe whole thing of the middle class is to send your kids to college, get professional jobs and move up ā€” but now that is being destroyedā€ by outsourcing, Miano said.

Many companies outsource U.S. white collar jobs to foreign professionals ā€” Disney, DeLoitte, many hospitals, Facebook, Intel, Qualcomm, Microsoft, plus many smaller companies, such as the Toys R Us retailer, Cengage publishing firm, and New York Life insurance company. The scale and details of the outsourcing movement can be tracked at websites, including MyVisaJobs.com.

Virgil Bierschwale, a displaced software expert, has posted details of the H-1B program and maps showing the locations and employer contacts for H-1B requests.

Much of the 2016 H-1B outsourcing at Caterpillar is for engineering jobs held by Americans.



Commercial job search boards show many Americans are qualified for those jobs. Indeed.com, for example, offers the resumes of 2,445 engineers within a 25-mile distance of Mossville, including some recently posted resumes of Caterpillarā€™s soon-to-be-outsourced employees.



These engineering jobs are in the so-called STEM field, which the federal government ā€” and the private sector ā€” has long declared will provide a secure upward path for American college grads.

However, even as young Americans study to earn places in colleges, the federal government is helping companies employ a population of roughly 650,000 H-1B professionals in the United States.

The resident population of around 650,000 H-1B outsourcing professionals includes roughly 100,000 jobs at universities. The outsourced university jobs include tens of thousands of professors and lecturers, doctors and therapists, scientists and researchers.

Most of the 650,000 outsourced H-1B jobs are in the information technology sector, where the imported professionals have lowered wages throughout the industry and forced middle-aged Americans into new, lower-paying careers ā€” such as journalism ā€” at just the time when they need good pay to help their children get a good education.

Many additional outsourced H-1B jobs are in business and finance, architecture and design, p.r. and media, health care, and teaching.

The wide variety of jobs shows how the H-1B outsourcing is reaching far beyond Silicon Valley. For example, companies such as CVS are increasingly using foreign college graduates to replace American pharmacists in Washington D.C., New York, and across the nation.

ā€œIf American professionals donā€™t stand up soon, theyā€™ll be going the way of the auto workers and the factory workers in just a few years,ā€ said Miano.
 
H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.
 
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These IT guys need to have a serious talk with their union.

Oh, that's right. IT workers are inherently not joiners. They prefer to go it alone.

I wonder if the facts of life will cause them to reconsider.
 
Why aren't / haven't we been giving college students the skills they need to fill these jobs? Or do they just not want to work for Caterpillar?
 
Why aren't / haven't we been giving college students the skills they need to fill these jobs? Or do they just not want to work for Caterpillar?
Maybe they don't want to move to where the jobs are. Too much hassle, and all that.
Yeah, Mossville Illinois wouldn't be on my wish list, either. But things being like they are, I'd go anyway if that's where the jobs were.
 
Why aren't / haven't we been giving college students the skills they need to fill these jobs? Or do they just not want to work for Caterpillar?
You're not getting it...cheap, compliant labor.
Which cannot legally be hired unless there are not enough Americans to fill the vacancies. Who is in charge of making sure that's enforced? Do they ever check or are all those generous campaign contributions keeping the feds from knocking on their door and finding out what's really going on?
It's possible they are telling the truth.
Not so much with hotel and restaurant workers. Sure Americans would do those jobs but they expect days off and they call in sick on the Super Bowl and it's a lot easier to get a bunch of foreigners in, even provide them with housing, who don't know anyone here and will therefore show up for work, even on Christmas. I live in an area with a lot of tourists in the summer, and they've been shipping in folks from overseas for summer work for years.
 
it's gotta stop, folks, it's gotta stop!

Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreign Graduates, Fires 300 American Professionals - Breitbart

Caterpillar is firing 300 American employees in Mossville, Illinois, even though it is continuing to recruit and pay foreign ā€œH-1Bā€ guest-workers to do the white-collar jobs sought by American professionals in the United States.
Caterpillarā€™s combination of white-collars layoffs and H-1B outsourcing matches the much-criticized decision by Carrier, a company in next-door Indiana, to outsource 1,400 blue-collar factory jobs to Mexico.

Outsider GOP candidate Donald Trump has vigorously denounced the outsourcing by Carrierā€™s air-conditioning business. His opposition has helped him get a nine-point polling advantage in the state. But Trumpā€™s support for major reforms to the H-1B program to reduce the outsourcing of professional jobs is raising his support among upper-income professional-class voters in many other states.

The Caterpillar outsourcing ā€œis all the same thing happening over and over again,ā€™ said John Miano, a lawyer and software expert who has sued the federal government to reduce or stop various outsourcing programs, such as the H-1B visa. ā€œWhat we see is that companies ask for more [H-1B visas] while theyā€™re laying off the same kind of [American professionals] ā€¦ this is going to be an election that decides whether this continues,ā€ Miano said.

Early in 2016, Caterpillar asked the federal government for 71 H-1B visas needed to hire foreign white-collar college-grads. At least 30 of the requested H-1B visas are for engineers and other skilled professionals in Mossville, which is suffering the most layoffs.

At least 44 of the visas requested in 2016 are for foreign graduates who are already working at Caterpillar in the United States. These ā€œcontinuationā€ visas are automatically approved, and do not count against the much touted annual limits on H1-B visas.

Another 22 of Caterpillarā€™s visas are for new hires.

Since 2012, Caterpillar has requested 768 visas for H-1B workers. Roughly speaking, companies get one-fifth of the H-1B visas they request, suggesting the company has outsourced at least 100 U.S.-based jobs to lower-wage foreign graduates.

The visa allows the H-1B workers to stay for at least three years, and some manage to stay permanently. For example, the company has also helped get green cards ā€” the precursor to citizenship ā€” for roughly 70 foreign college graduates. Most of these green card employees have replaced Americans software graduates

While Trump has promised to reform the controversial H-1B program as part of his plan to ensure that immigration law helps Americans before companies or foreign workers, Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter of the H-1B program, and her foundation has tried to hire more than 130 foreign professionals in place of young Americans.

That political difference over white-collar outsourcing may become critical in the new few weeks when Trump tries to raise his support among college graduates.

Trump is already doing well among blue-collar families, party because of his promise to start enforcing existing laws that bar the hiring of illegals. But Trump is doing poorly among college-graduates, partly because few white-collar workers yet recognize the pocketbook impact to them of federal immigration practices. Fewer still know that states are also allowing illegal immigrants to work in professional jobs.

American professionals prefer to ignore the threat from the governmentā€™s H-1B program, said Miano. ā€œThey all all think ā€˜Iā€™m goodā€¦ if I keep up my skills, I donā€™t have anything to worry aboutā€™ ā€” but they donā€™t know these [hiring] decisions are being made by accountants who have no idea what their skills are,ā€ he said.

That outsourcing process is a huge threat to the middle class because it is ā€œcutting off the ability of people to rise up,ā€ he said. ā€œThe whole thing of the middle class is to send your kids to college, get professional jobs and move up ā€” but now that is being destroyedā€ by outsourcing, Miano said.

Many companies outsource U.S. white collar jobs to foreign professionals ā€” Disney, DeLoitte, many hospitals, Facebook, Intel, Qualcomm, Microsoft, plus many smaller companies, such as the Toys R Us retailer, Cengage publishing firm, and New York Life insurance company. The scale and details of the outsourcing movement can be tracked at websites, including MyVisaJobs.com.

Virgil Bierschwale, a displaced software expert, has posted details of the H-1B program and maps showing the locations and employer contacts for H-1B requests.

Much of the 2016 H-1B outsourcing at Caterpillar is for engineering jobs held by Americans.



Commercial job search boards show many Americans are qualified for those jobs. Indeed.com, for example, offers the resumes of 2,445 engineers within a 25-mile distance of Mossville, including some recently posted resumes of Caterpillarā€™s soon-to-be-outsourced employees.



These engineering jobs are in the so-called STEM field, which the federal government ā€” and the private sector ā€” has long declared will provide a secure upward path for American college grads.

However, even as young Americans study to earn places in colleges, the federal government is helping companies employ a population of roughly 650,000 H-1B professionals in the United States.

The resident population of around 650,000 H-1B outsourcing professionals includes roughly 100,000 jobs at universities. The outsourced university jobs include tens of thousands of professors and lecturers, doctors and therapists, scientists and researchers.

Most of the 650,000 outsourced H-1B jobs are in the information technology sector, where the imported professionals have lowered wages throughout the industry and forced middle-aged Americans into new, lower-paying careers ā€” such as journalism ā€” at just the time when they need good pay to help their children get a good education.

Many additional outsourced H-1B jobs are in business and finance, architecture and design, p.r. and media, health care, and teaching.

The wide variety of jobs shows how the H-1B outsourcing is reaching far beyond Silicon Valley. For example, companies such as CVS are increasingly using foreign college graduates to replace American pharmacists in Washington D.C., New York, and across the nation.

ā€œIf American professionals donā€™t stand up soon, theyā€™ll be going the way of the auto workers and the factory workers in just a few years,ā€ said Miano.
briebart is a trump campaign outlet. And I only see one other site for this, which is self identified as tea party. I'm open to information, but this fails.
 
H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.
Cheap labor, no benefits, 24/7 slaves.


Yeah, you really don't understand this.

Best stay out of the thread.
You worked on Wall Street and witnessed non-Indians being replaced by the hundreds by incompetent Indian H1-Bs?
I didn't think so.
 
They probably have to.. You know our government likes to make trade deals with countries that use child labor and dump chemicals in the community lake..
Have to compete, right un-free market guys?
 
You worked on Wall Street and witnessed non-Indians being replaced by the hundreds by incompetent Indian H1-Bs?
I didn't think so.

Point being?

I'm informing you what the law is. Nothing you said so far makes it anything else.
 
it's gotta stop, folks, it's gotta stop!
.

Well Donald won't be the one to stop it- he loves hiring foreign workers instead of American workers.

Trump's decade-long record of hiring foreign guest workers

Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club and Jupiter Golf Club have filed documents to bring in as many as 78 foreign workers for the next fiscal year. In total, records filed at the U.S. Department of Labor and reviewed by CNN reveal that in the last 15 years, Donald Trump's various businesses have been granted approval to import at least 1,256 foreign guest workers.
 
H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?
 

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