Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreigners, Fires 300 American Professionals

[Indeependent]

You worked on Wall Street and witnessed non-Indians being replaced by the hundreds by incompetent Indian H1-Bs?
I didn't think so.

Point being?

I'm informing you what the law is. Nothing you said so far makes it anything else.

You are correct concerning the law.
Most H1-Bs are brought in under the aegis of Indian consulting firms. The firms take a reduced rate and pay the BVs $15.00/hour.

 

[paulitician]

The Clintons and their NWO Globalist Elite friends don't give a damn about American Citizens. When are most Americans gonna realize that? Like him or not, Donald Trump's our only chance at holding the NWO Elites off.

 

[paulitician]

Wake up Americans. NWO Globalism isn't about you. It's about handing more wealth and control over to the few NWO Globalist Elites. Their goal is to destroy all national sovereignties and identities. And the U.S. is their final obstacle. Things like that pesky U.S. Constitution have to go.

It's time to stand up to the NWO Globalist agendas. Forget about Hillary Clinton. She's a prominent member of the gang. Go with Trump. He isn't going along. They despise him for his 'Appalling Audacity' to propose putting Americans first again. If you want to preserve your nation, it has to be Trump. I hope America makes that call. But we'll see i guess.

 

[JoeNormal]

I'm encouraged that there's some outrage over this. Seems like not too long ago, all the so called capitalists would be saying that this is exactly what the upper management should be doing and that it would actually be illegal for them not to maximize profits in such a way.

 

[paulitician]

I'm encouraged that there's some outrage over this. Seems like not too long ago, all the so called capitalists would be saying that this is exactly what the upper management should be doing and that it would actually be illegal for them not to maximize profits in such a way.

Good point. Keep in mind, there are a lot of Republican NWO Globalists out there too. Those folks would sell their own Mothers if they saw monetary profit in it. NWO Globalism goes well beyond Republican/Democrat. Both major U.S. Parties are completely controlled by NWO Globalist Elites.

 

[MaryL]

it's gotta stop, folks, it's gotta stop!

Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreign Graduates, Fires 300 American Professionals - Breitbart

Caterpillar is firing 300 American employees in Mossville, Illinois, even though it is continuing to recruit and pay foreign “H-1B” guest-workers to do the white-collar jobs sought by American professionals in the United States.
Caterpillar’s combination of white-collars layoffs and H-1B outsourcing matches the much-criticized decision by Carrier, a company in next-door Indiana, to outsource 1,400 blue-collar factory jobs to Mexico.

Outsider GOP candidate Donald Trump has vigorously denounced the outsourcing by Carrier’s air-conditioning business. His opposition has helped him get a nine-point polling advantage in the state. But Trump’s support for major reforms to the H-1B program to reduce the outsourcing of professional jobs is raising his support among upper-income professional-class voters in many other states.

The Caterpillar outsourcing “is all the same thing happening over and over again,’ said John Miano, a lawyer and software expert who has sued the federal government to reduce or stop various outsourcing programs, such as the H-1B visa. “What we see is that companies ask for more [H-1B visas] while they’re laying off the same kind of [American professionals] … this is going to be an election that decides whether this continues,” Miano said.

Early in 2016, Caterpillar asked the federal government for 71 H-1B visas needed to hire foreign white-collar college-grads. At least 30 of the requested H-1B visas are for engineers and other skilled professionals in Mossville, which is suffering the most layoffs.

At least 44 of the visas requested in 2016 are for foreign graduates who are already working at Caterpillar in the United States. These “continuation” visas are automatically approved, and do not count against the much touted annual limits on H1-B visas.

Another 22 of Caterpillar’s visas are for new hires.

Since 2012, Caterpillar has requested 768 visas for H-1B workers. Roughly speaking, companies get one-fifth of the H-1B visas they request, suggesting the company has outsourced at least 100 U.S.-based jobs to lower-wage foreign graduates.

The visa allows the H-1B workers to stay for at least three years, and some manage to stay permanently. For example, the company has also helped get green cards — the precursor to citizenship — for roughly 70 foreign college graduates. Most of these green card employees have replaced Americans software graduates

While Trump has promised to reform the controversial H-1B program as part of his plan to ensure that immigration law helps Americans before companies or foreign workers, Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter of the H-1B program, and her foundation has tried to hire more than 130 foreign professionals in place of young Americans.

That political difference over white-collar outsourcing may become critical in the new few weeks when Trump tries to raise his support among college graduates.

Trump is already doing well among blue-collar families, party because of his promise to start enforcing existing laws that bar the hiring of illegals. But Trump is doing poorly among college-graduates, partly because few white-collar workers yet recognize the pocketbook impact to them of federal immigration practices. Fewer still know that states are also allowing illegal immigrants to work in professional jobs.

American professionals prefer to ignore the threat from the government’s H-1B program, said Miano. “They all all think ‘I’m good… if I keep up my skills, I don’t have anything to worry about’ — but they don’t know these [hiring] decisions are being made by accountants who have no idea what their skills are,” he said.

That outsourcing process is a huge threat to the middle class because it is “cutting off the ability of people to rise up,” he said. “The whole thing of the middle class is to send your kids to college, get professional jobs and move up — but now that is being destroyed” by outsourcing, Miano said.

Many companies outsource U.S. white collar jobs to foreign professionals — Disney, DeLoitte, many hospitals, Facebook, Intel, Qualcomm, Microsoft, plus many smaller companies, such as the Toys R Us retailer, Cengage publishing firm, and New York Life insurance company. The scale and details of the outsourcing movement can be tracked at websites, including MyVisaJobs.com.

Virgil Bierschwale, a displaced software expert, has posted details of the H-1B program and maps showing the locations and employer contacts for H-1B requests.

Much of the 2016 H-1B outsourcing at Caterpillar is for engineering jobs held by Americans.



Commercial job search boards show many Americans are qualified for those jobs. Indeed.com, for example, offers the resumes of 2,445 engineers within a 25-mile distance of Mossville, including some recently posted resumes of Caterpillar’s soon-to-be-outsourced employees.



These engineering jobs are in the so-called STEM field, which the federal government — and the private sector — has long declared will provide a secure upward path for American college grads.

However, even as young Americans study to earn places in colleges, the federal government is helping companies employ a population of roughly 650,000 H-1B professionals in the United States.

The resident population of around 650,000 H-1B outsourcing professionals includes roughly 100,000 jobs at universities. The outsourced university jobs include tens of thousands of professors and lecturers, doctors and therapists, scientists and researchers.

Most of the 650,000 outsourced H-1B jobs are in the information technology sector, where the imported professionals have lowered wages throughout the industry and forced middle-aged Americans into new, lower-paying careers — such as journalism — at just the time when they need good pay to help their children get a good education.

Many additional outsourced H-1B jobs are in business and finance, architecture and design, p.r. and media, health care, and teaching.

The wide variety of jobs shows how the H-1B outsourcing is reaching far beyond Silicon Valley. For example, companies such as CVS are increasingly using foreign college graduates to replace American pharmacists in Washington D.C., New York, and across the nation.

“If American professionals don’t stand up soon, they’ll be going the way of the auto workers and the factory workers in just a few years,” said Miano.

It not like you can just jump around to a NEW job once you have lost one, especially one you had for over 20 years. You kids don't get that . And who are these old jobs going to? So, it isn't you, so you can feel smug and self righteous about it. But when it happens to you, and IT WILL, remind me to care. But, by then it won't matter. Say bye bye to all of your jobs, millennials. Ten years from now you will be living in your parents basement or living off the dole. So keep voting Liberal. Give away America.

 

[initforme]

This should be a unionized position. Case closed.

 

[Siete]

300, is that all ?

But recent filings with the government show that two of the billionaire candidate's businesses have once again taken steps to bring in foreign workers to do jobs that critics say could be handled by Americans.

Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club and Jupiter Golf Club have filed documents to bring in as many as 78 foreign workers for the next fiscal year. In total, records filed at the U.S. Department of Labor and reviewed by CNN reveal that in the last 15 years, Donald Trump's various businesses have been granted approval to import at least 1,256 foreign guest workers.

The guest workers were brought in on a variety of different U.S. visa programs that allow companies to import workers temporarily from overseas.

Cat ... 300

Trump ... 1256.


Trump wins again !

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

I'm encouraged that there's some outrage over this. Seems like not too long ago, all the so called capitalists would be saying that this is exactly what the upper management should be doing and that it would actually be illegal for them not to maximize profits in such a way.

Oh I'm sure we will soon find that we have to take care of all those Muslim refugees "foreigners" who enter this country over our own soon as well.

 

[Al Azar]

This should be a unionized position. Case closed.

Everyone working for wages at any business larger than a Mom & Pop operation needs a union.

 

[eagle7_31]

This should be a unionized position. Case closed.

Everyone working for wages at any business larger than a Mom & Pop operation needs a union.

While I have had issues with unions over the years I'm not certain they would be of much help in a case like this concerning H-1B. This program has been more than a bit misused.

 

[Al Azar]

This should be a unionized position. Case closed.

Everyone working for wages at any business larger than a Mom & Pop operation needs a union.

While I have had issues with unions over the years I'm not certain they would be of much help in a case like this concerning H-1B. This program has been more than a bit misused.

Union-negotiated contracts generally protect employees from fire-at-will, no matter whom management might like to replace them with.

 

[AntonToo]

H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?

Understanding H-1B Requirements

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

 

[Al Azar]

H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?

Understanding H-1B Requirements

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

It's beginning to look like the workers were replaced for some other reason.

Ah, now I see. The report is from Breitbart. Why did we waste our time on this?

 

[AntonToo]

H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?

Understanding H-1B Requirements

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

It's beginning to look like the workers were replaced for some other reason.

Ah, now I see. The report is from Breitbart. Why did we waste our time on this?

Well we do have a Breitbart candidate for Presidency nominated by what used to be mainstream party

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?

Understanding H-1B Requirements

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

So the employer CAN offer the same minimum starting wage, but not necessarily the whole long term earned seniority package the employee worked to achieve. As well as we are talking about foreigners coming in to simply retain an American workers position in an economy that's not really booming. The fact that Hillary happens to support this type of visa is also interesting.

 

[Al Azar]

It's also interesting that Congress, currently predominantly Republican, writes our visa laws. How many bills curtailing use of this type of visa have they sent to our president?

That's what I thought.

And why not?

We knew that, too.

 

[paulitician]

Relax folks, they're just doing the jobs Americans don't wanna do. Nothing to see here.

 

[Al Azar]

Relax folks, they're just doing the jobs Americans don't wanna do. Nothing to see here.

That's apparently the way Congress sees it.

 

[Indeependent]

H1-B visas are specifically for jobs a company is having trouble filling with Americans. If a company is replacing American jobs with those workers then that's an enforcement question.

Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa

Further, there is a max of 85,000 of such visas, which is not all that significant in 150 million job economy.

Further, the wage paid for position must match industry standard compensation, so there is no financial incentive for companies anyway.

The 85,000 is the H-1B cap of foreign workers each government fiscal year for those who "qualify" for that particular visa. However, an employer can also utilize a L-1 visa outside of the 85,000 government fiscal maximum. L-1 Visa involves a company that has globally established businesses where they have the capability to transfer foreign employees to the United States fulfilling the same role and responsibilities as the US workers here.

There is also no industry salary package requirement "match" that I have found in investigating these visas. You are going to have to provide proof that businesses are forced by our government to provide the same benefits package to nonunion workers, as it pertains to foreign workers replacing Americans for the same exact task. Do you have a link, as it would be nice to know this source of information?

Understanding H-1B Requirements

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

A very nice law that is constantly violated.
A case can only be investigated by order of the D.A..
Running for D.A. is, like any other political office, VERY expensive.
The major firms that use Business Visas contribute to the campaigns of these D.A.s
No D.A. ever pursues these claims of BV abuse.