Cassidy Hutchinson

[Lakhota]

^^ proof she is being paid to lie.

What is "proof"?

 

[Synthaholic]

Wrong jackass. Anyone that handles classified information can destroy the paper copies.

It‘s the proper way to dispose of them. If you ever had a security clearance and worked with classified information you’d know that. But of course you haven’t, so you don’t know jack shit about the subject.

I suppose you are also dumb enough to believe that a paper copy is the only copy of a document, and that there are no digital copies.

Destroying Federal Documents During a Presidential Transition Is a Federal Crime​

Remember the unnamed Clinton staffers who thought it funny to steal the “W” key from White House computer boards in 2001. Not so funny when one realizes that juvenile prank was a federal crime. “The theft of or willful damage to government property would constitute a criminal act,” the nonpartisan General Accounting Office report stated after an investigation that included interviewing over 100 government employees.

But let’s assume that departing executive branch staffers destroy or steal something far more valuable than a computer key worth less than a dollar. Let’s assume they steal or destroy information belonging to the United States government stored on computer files in the executive branch. A document that is embarrassing, potentially incriminating or just useful to the “other side,” which a staffer simply takes or destroys so the “other side” won’t get it.

That “other side” is fellow Americans who may disagree politically but who, once a new president is sworn in pursuant to the Constitution, will administer the executive branch under the powers of the president set forth in Article II. The stolen or destroyed property belongs to the government, not to the departing president. Intentionally taking or destroying that property, including property in the form of digital information, is a federal crime.

Don’t believe it’s that serious? Let’s take a look at the clearly worded statutes that should make someone run in the other direction if asked to be involved in the destruction of government records.

18 USC §641, public money property or records, provides:

Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or
Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both ….

18 USC §1361 provides:

Whoever willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States, or of any department or agency thereof, or any property which has been or is being manufactured or constructed for the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or attempts to commit any of the foregoing offenses, shall be punished as follows:
If the damage or attempted damage to such property exceeds the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both; if the damage or attempted damage to such property does not exceed the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both.

18 U.S. Code §2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally provides:

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States….

The first two statutes – 18 USC §641 and §1361 – require prosecutors to prove the property was of value, but information usually is valuable and the cost of retrieving information stored on government computers from back up files can be significant. The third statute – 18 USC §2071 – does not require proof that the stolen or destroyed property was of monetary value.

 

[theHawk]

Destroying Federal Documents During a Presidential Transition Is a Federal Crime​

Remember the unnamed Clinton staffers who thought it funny to steal the “W” key from White House computer boards in 2001. Not so funny when one realizes that juvenile prank was a federal crime. “The theft of or willful damage to government property would constitute a criminal act,” the nonpartisan General Accounting Office report stated after an investigation that included interviewing over 100 government employees.

But let’s assume that departing executive branch staffers destroy or steal something far more valuable than a computer key worth less than a dollar. Let’s assume they steal or destroy information belonging to the United States government stored on computer files in the executive branch. A document that is embarrassing, potentially incriminating or just useful to the “other side,” which a staffer simply takes or destroys so the “other side” won’t get it.

That “other side” is fellow Americans who may disagree politically but who, once a new president is sworn in pursuant to the Constitution, will administer the executive branch under the powers of the president set forth in Article II. The stolen or destroyed property belongs to the government, not to the departing president. Intentionally taking or destroying that property, including property in the form of digital information, is a federal crime.

Don’t believe it’s that serious? Let’s take a look at the clearly worded statutes that should make someone run in the other direction if asked to be involved in the destruction of government records.

18 USC §641, public money property or records, provides:


18 USC §1361 provides:


18 U.S. Code §2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally provides:


The first two statutes – 18 USC §641 and §1361 – require prosecutors to prove the property was of value, but information usually is valuable and the cost of retrieving information stored on government computers from back up files can be significant. The third statute – 18 USC §2071 – does not require proof that the stolen or destroyed property was of monetary value.

LOL. Good luck proving the papers were worth anything.

More wishful thinking and imagined crimes on your part.

Say, whatever happened to Trump’s Taxes? LMAO

 

[MinTrut]

Hutchinson is a proven liar

Yes.

and Trump is going to be the next president of the United States.

Highly unlikely.

Huge improvement over what we have now

Well, at least Newson isn't demented...

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[MinTrut]

She comes off as quite believable on The View

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-book-trump-white-house-chaos/index.html

She says in her book what I've been saying. Trump is responsible for the deaths on January 6th riot.

We agree on some things, but not on Trump.

He's a detestable figure in many ways, but the way he was targeted from (before) Day One...

 

[CuleokaBob]

How many indictments so far?

Biden and the mess

 

[SeaMajor7]

Destroying Federal Documents During a Presidential Transition Is a Federal Crime​

Remember the unnamed Clinton staffers who thought it funny to steal the “W” key from White House computer boards in 2001. Not so funny when one realizes that juvenile prank was a federal crime. “The theft of or willful damage to government property would constitute a criminal act,” the nonpartisan General Accounting Office report stated after an investigation that included interviewing over 100 government employees.

But let’s assume that departing executive branch staffers destroy or steal something far more valuable than a computer key worth less than a dollar. Let’s assume they steal or destroy information belonging to the United States government stored on computer files in the executive branch. A document that is embarrassing, potentially incriminating or just useful to the “other side,” which a staffer simply takes or destroys so the “other side” won’t get it.

That “other side” is fellow Americans who may disagree politically but who, once a new president is sworn in pursuant to the Constitution, will administer the executive branch under the powers of the president set forth in Article II. The stolen or destroyed property belongs to the government, not to the departing president. Intentionally taking or destroying that property, including property in the form of digital information, is a federal crime.

Don’t believe it’s that serious? Let’s take a look at the clearly worded statutes that should make someone run in the other direction if asked to be involved in the destruction of government records.

18 USC §641, public money property or records, provides:


18 USC §1361 provides:


18 U.S. Code §2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally provides:


The first two statutes – 18 USC §641 and §1361 – require prosecutors to prove the property was of value, but information usually is valuable and the cost of retrieving information stored on government computers from back up files can be significant. The third statute – 18 USC §2071 – does not require proof that the stolen or destroyed property was of monetary value.

Bleach Bit-Hammer Time Hillary approves this message.

 

[berg80]

The revelations in just the first 25 minutes of Rachel Maddow tonight are jaw dropping. MANY things are coming out, and this will put even more pressure on those who have kept quiet. What a brave young lady.

Revelation #1: The Trump team started workshopping the phrase 'Stop the Steal' 6 months before he lost to Joe Biden. There have been many reports that Trump's advisors told him months before that he was going to lose, but this is the first time we have learned that he was planning the insurrection and The Big Lie a half a year before he lost.

Much more to come. Watch this space.

The "stop the steal" revelation suggests members of the WH staff were preparing for an electoral loss. That they planned all along to make accusations of fraud before the election even happened. Just as Trump had done before the 2016 election. It's anecdotal evidence Trump knew he had lost from day one. Something that has been confirmed by a number of WH insiders.

There was also the matter of Trump personally ordering Geoffrey Berman to be fired. The US Attorney who Trump told to prosecute Don's perceived enemies.

Justice Department pressured former US attorney to bring cases against Trump enemies, Geoffrey Berman says

Geoffrey Berman made the allegations in his new book.

abcnews.go.com

 

[SeaMajor7]

Yes, yes! The demented LEFT are completely correct!
Trump grabbed the steering wheel from the back of the limo and screamed, "TAKE ME TO MACDONALDS!!!!!!!!!"

 

[berg80]

Say, whatever happened to Trump’s Taxes? LMAO

Well, we found out the Stable Genius reported millions in negative income in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2020, and he paid only $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. Negative income for a business savant?
As I recall the Ways and Means committee report also listed several overarching issues it believed the IRS should have investigated. For example, Trump claimed large cash donations to charities, but the report said the IRS did not verify them. The report also said that while Trump’s tax filings were large and complicated, the IRS does not appear to have assigned experts to work on them. Gee, I wonder why the IRS didn't investigate?

Trump’s IRS chief has made hundreds of thousands from Trump properties while in office - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Charles Rettig has made hundreds of thousands of dollars renting out Trump properties while refusing to release Trump's tax returns.

www.citizensforethics.org

 

[SeaMajor7]

Well, we found out the Stable Genius reported millions in negative income in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2020, and he paid only $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. Negative income for a business savant?
As I recall the Ways and Means committee report also listed several overarching issues it believed the IRS should have investigated. For example, Trump claimed large cash donations to charities, but the report said the IRS did not verify them. The report also said that while Trump’s tax filings were large and complicated, the IRS does not appear to have assigned experts to work on them. Gee, I wonder why the IRS didn't investigate?

Trump’s IRS chief has made hundreds of thousands from Trump properties while in office - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Charles Rettig has made hundreds of thousands of dollars renting out Trump properties while refusing to release Trump's tax returns.

www.citizensforethics.org

How much in taxes did the Biden Crime Syndicate pay from their profits from Ukraine, Russia, and China????????
Answer that you pathetic HYPOCRITE!!!!!

 

[berg80]

Her being in the news caused me to recall the absolute madness of the Oval office meeting with Trump, Flynn, Powell, Byrne during which they discussed the imposition of martial law and the seizing of voting machines. The kinds of batshyte crazy, anti-democratic impulses Trump was only prevented from carrying out because of the relatively sane people who stopped him.

 

[berg80]

How much in taxes did the Biden Crime Syndicate pay from their profits from Ukraine, Russia, and China????????
Answer that you pathetic HYPOCRITE!!!!!

Your pathetic deflection is noted.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Your pathetic deflection is noted.

Your Marxist brainwashed ASS is noted!!!!

 

[pknopp]

^ EPIC thread win.

But yeah, the Dems are desperate at this point.

They need to swap Joe & Kamala out ASAP.

I will not vote for Joe, but I would vote for Joe before voting for Harris.

 

[berg80]

Your Marxist brainwashed ASS is noted!!!!

For someone so well practiced at writing gratuitous insults I would have thought you'd be better at it by now. Show some imagination. Put some effort in to it.
After all, it's clear you're too stupid to respond with a pertinent, on topic reply.

 

[SeaMajor7]

For someone so well practiced at writing gratuitous insults I would have thought you'd be better at it by now. Show some imagination. Put some effort in to it.
After all, it's clear you're too stupid to respond with a pertinent, on topic reply.

Look at all the fuss you are going through to uphold this FUCKING RETARDED STORY!!!!!
You are a neo-Bolshevik ASSHOLE, plain and simple, and ON TOPIC!!!!!

 

[sealybobo]

We agree on some things, but not on Trump.

He's a detestable figure in many ways, but the way he was targeted from (before) Day One...

He's a FRAUD! He's been a criminal since day one. Remember he obstructed justice and Paul Ryan made excuses for him? He's new to this he said. And Trump broke laws while in office and we couldn't go after a sitting president. Now he's not and he wants to run again. Perfect time to charge him for ALL his crimes including the latest

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1201893212/new-york-judge-order-letitia-james-trump-fraud-case

Are all these cases against him witch hunts? You could say Russia was a witch hunt because he got off. But the Eugene Carol case and this? His charity, a fraud. His corporation, tax fraud. My god what more do you need to not support this man? What would he have to do to lose your support? You truly believe he cares about you. Wow. Or, maybe you are an anarchist and like that he fucks with the establishment. I don't. You see the Trumpies in the House are going to shut the government down? If McCarthy tries to get Democrats to help him he will lose his seat.

The crazies have taken the country hostage.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Yes, yes! The demented LEFT are completely correct!
Trump grabbed the steering wheel from the back of the limo and screamed, "TAKE ME TO MACDONALDS!!!!!!!!!"

Would anyone actually be surprised if that happened?

 

[marvin martian]

Destroying Federal Documents During a Presidential Transition Is a Federal Crime​

Remember the unnamed Clinton staffers who thought it funny to steal the “W” key from White House computer boards in 2001. Not so funny when one realizes that juvenile prank was a federal crime. “The theft of or willful damage to government property would constitute a criminal act,” the nonpartisan General Accounting Office report stated after an investigation that included interviewing over 100 government employees.

But let’s assume that departing executive branch staffers destroy or steal something far more valuable than a computer key worth less than a dollar. Let’s assume they steal or destroy information belonging to the United States government stored on computer files in the executive branch. A document that is embarrassing, potentially incriminating or just useful to the “other side,” which a staffer simply takes or destroys so the “other side” won’t get it.

That “other side” is fellow Americans who may disagree politically but who, once a new president is sworn in pursuant to the Constitution, will administer the executive branch under the powers of the president set forth in Article II. The stolen or destroyed property belongs to the government, not to the departing president. Intentionally taking or destroying that property, including property in the form of digital information, is a federal crime.

Don’t believe it’s that serious? Let’s take a look at the clearly worded statutes that should make someone run in the other direction if asked to be involved in the destruction of government records.

18 USC §641, public money property or records, provides:


18 USC §1361 provides:


18 U.S. Code §2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally provides:


The first two statutes – 18 USC §641 and §1361 – require prosecutors to prove the property was of value, but information usually is valuable and the cost of retrieving information stored on government computers from back up files can be significant. The third statute – 18 USC §2071 – does not require proof that the stolen or destroyed property was of monetary value.

Your story about Trump carjacking the Secret Service is better.