edthecynic
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Whenever CON$ stoop to arrogant condescension, they know they are wrong.Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself.You know what they say, close only counts in horseshoes, handgrenades and dancing...but your post is also, sort of close.
Wrong, but sort of close.
Must I constantly help you see the light???
Check this out, FredTheCricket:
1. Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld:
CIA Director Panetta indicated that one of the individuals who provided important information had in fact been waterboarded There was some confusion today on some programs, even one on FOX I think, suggesting that I indicated that no one who was waterboarded at Guantanamo provided any information on this. Its not true. No one was waterboarded at Guantanamo by the US military. In fact no one was waterboarded at Guantanamo period. Three people were waterboarded by the CIA away from Guantanamo and then later were brought to Guantanamo. And, in fact, as you pointed out the information from these individuals was critically important.
Sorry Lefties Rumsfeld Says Waterboarding Led US to Osama Bin Laden (Video) | The Gateway Pundit
YouTube - Sorry Lefties... Rumsfeld Says Waterboarding Led US to Osama
2. WASHINGTON Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.
Enhanced interrogation techniques were used to extract information that led to the missions success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.
Panetta, who in a 2009 CIA confirmation hearing declared water-boarding is torture and its wrong, said Tuesday that debate about its use will continue.
Panettas comments hours after Attorney General Eric Holder defended as lawful Tuesday the intelligence gathering and raid that resulted in the death of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.
Weasel Zippers » Blog Archive » CIA Chief Leon Panetta: Yes, Intelligence From Waterboarded Detainees Was Used to Track Down Bin Laden
Now, let's proceed to the part that explains what happened to the folks who are easily manipulated...that would be you and GT, I guess....
3." But one Democratic communications hand sent advice to a slew of other Democratic operatives in the wake of the announcement hammering on the need to make sure Obama comes out on top.
In your day jobs, do not let Republicans turn this into continuing the Bush legacy. This has to be about Obamas decisive leadership, the guidance said. He is the one who oversaw bringing bin Laden to justice, much like how Bush failed to do so at Tora Bora and then claimed Osama wasnt a priority.
For Democrats, the argument is critical because they dont want to let credibility on national security issues slip back into their post-Vietnam home in the Republican Party. And they need to fight the insinuation, fed by recent NATO action in Libya that one official characterized as leading from behind, that Obama is a weak leader."The next front: Claiming credit for Osama bin Laden's death - Kasie Hunt and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
Get that? That's you there're aiming to confuse...er, convince.
Worked, huh?
Stop crying....you're not the only lefties that were made to look really, really dumb.
You'll bounce back....after all...
...you prove that you're never too old to learn something dumb.
BTW, I heard an interview with Richard Miniter, his book "Mastermind," is coming out today...and his evidence was that KSM was waterboarded, and sang like a birdie for a year!
The CIA, who did the interrogations, said that they didn't get the crucial info, namely the name of the courier, until well AFTER the waterboarding of KSM stopped. The CIA say they got it by conventional means.
Remember KSM was caught March 1, 2003 and even using your phony time line of being waterboarded for a year, that only brings us to 2004 and the crucial name was not gotten until 2005!!!!!!!
Clues Gradually Led to the Location of Osama bin Laden - NYTimes.com
By 2005, many inside the C.I.A. had reached the conclusion that the Bin Laden hunt had grown cold, and the agencys top clandestine officer ordered an overhaul of the agencys counterterrorism operations. The result was Operation Cannonball, a bureaucratic reshuffling that placed more C.I.A. case officers on the ground in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
With more agents in the field, the C.I.A. finally got the couriers family name. With that, they turned to one of their greatest investigative tools the National Security Agency began intercepting telephone calls and e-mail messages between the mans family and anyone inside Pakistan. From there they got his full name.
Last July, Pakistani agents working for the C.I.A. spotted him driving his vehicle near Peshawar. When, after weeks of surveillance, he drove to the sprawling compound in Abbottabad, American intelligence operatives felt they were onto something big, perhaps even Bin Laden himself. It was hardly the spartan cave in the mountains that many had envisioned as his hiding place. Rather, it was a three-story house ringed by 12-foot-high concrete walls, topped with barbed wire and protected by two security fences. He was, said Mr. Brennan, the White House official, hiding in plain sight.
Rumsfeld and Panetta....google 'em if you don't know who they are.
Then wipe the egg off your face.
So, no torture was involved....just waterboarding!
Thank you.
Panetta was not in the CIA when KSM was captured or tortured. As was pointed out, KSM was waterboarded by the CIA in March 2003 and all torture techniques were halted by the CIA in 2004. In 2005 the CIA still did not have the name of the courier.
And The Rummy Dummy admitted to Newsmax that the info that led to the killing of OBL was acquired by normal interrogation means.
Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source
Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through normal interrogation approaches
The United States Department of Defense did not do waterboarding for interrogation purposes to anyone. It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance. But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.