Candidates for the White House

onthefence said:
Bush should stay out of it. The name alone will kill any chance at winning. I like Giuliani. I really like Romney. These two would have my vote in any combination. I don't even care about the New England ticket. Romney/Giuliani would work for me.

As for the Dems. Please let it be Al Gore. It will be either Gore or Clinton. It won't be both. Clinton wouldn't want to serve under Gore after serving above him. ;) Dashle is a joke. Clark wouldn't dare run again.

Giuliani is an adulterous swine, no better than Goat-boy in that respect. Mitt Romney...A Republican from the state that legalized same gender marriage? Would never fly in the Bible-belt. Bill Frist has his nose buried so far up Bush's ass that if Dubbyuh makes a sudden turn, Frist will have a broken nose. Whoever the GOP nominates will have to be just to the left of Mussolini and spout enough pious, self-righteous hypocrisies to keep the right wing-nut and religious zealots happy.

My personal favorite to run for the White House would be Kinky Friedman.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Giuliani is an adulterous swine, no better than Goat-boy in that respect. Mitt Romney...A Republican from the state that legalized same gender marriage? Would never fly in the Bible-belt. Bill Frist has his nose buried so far up Bush's ass that if Dubbyuh makes a sudden turn, Frist will have a broken nose. Whoever the GOP nominates will have to be just to the left of Mussolini and spout enough pious, self-righteous hypocrisies to keep the right wing-nut and religious zealots happy.

My personal favorite to run for the White House would be Kinky Friedman.

Well damn--please expound!!
 
Rico said:
Romney is a Mormon. Many Christians consider, myself included, Mormons to be a CULT. Read the history of the group. It's all lies. Joseph Smith was an out and out liar and his "Book of Mormon" is nothing but made up lies. It is truly sad that so many are sucked into this CULT. With just a little research you can easily find the truth about the LDS. Take a quick perusal. http://www.irr.org/MIT/origins.html
Joseph Smith was a charleton.

There are two goups of Mormons though, the mainstream Mormon's don't practice polygamy, it is the cult or LDS that does.
 
Kathianne said:
Hey, he bashed Jews, what more do you want?

I thought I might get a committment about something positive from Bully but all I could manage was this old insult from you.
 
dilloduck said:
I thought I might get a committment about something positive from Bully but all I could manage was this old insult from you.
Where was the insult?
 
dilloduck said:
I get it---your too afraid to be serious.

It's too early to get serious. Both Republican and Democratic front-runners, at this point are a bunch of ward-heelers. Any candidate who isn't in the pockets of lobbyists or panders to the fringe elements, I'll vote for. But I'm not holding out any hopes that any such candidate will be found, let alone nominated.

The Republic is dying, and I will do what I can to save it, even if it only gets me a bullet in the back of the head for trying to speak truth to power.
 
Bullypulpit said:
It's too early to get serious. Both Republican and Democratic front-runners, at this point are a bunch of ward-heelers. Any candidate who isn't in the pockets of lobbyists or panders to the fringe elements, I'll vote for. But I'm not holding out any hopes that any such candidate will be found, let alone nominated.

The Republic is dying, and I will do what I can to save it, even if it only gets me a bullet in the back of the head for trying to speak truth to power.

Gotcha--you just gave up. Can't say as I blame ya. I thought ya might have someone in mind that would be especially fun for you to demean tho.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Giuliani is an adulterous swine, no better than Goat-boy in that respect. Mitt Romney...A Republican from the state that legalized same gender marriage? Would never fly in the Bible-belt. Bill Frist has his nose buried so far up Bush's ass that if Dubbyuh makes a sudden turn, Frist will have a broken nose. Whoever the GOP nominates will have to be just to the left of Mussolini and spout enough pious, self-righteous hypocrisies to keep the right wing-nut and religious zealots happy.

My personal favorite to run for the White House would be Kinky Friedman.

I think the fact that Massachusetts was forced to legalize homosexual marriage and that Governor Romney did everything he could to fight it will appeal to the base.
 
dilloduck said:
Gotcha--you just gave up. Can't say as I blame ya. I thought ya might have someone in mind that would be especially fun for you to demean tho.

Someone fun to demean would be Bill Frist. He's nothing but a windsock...Wherever the political wind blows, that's where he goes. He's got no principles except to cling to power.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Someone fun to demean would be Bill Frist. He's nothing but a windsock...Wherever the political wind blows, that's where he goes. He's got no principles except to cling to power.

funny ted kennedy nancy pelosi or baba boxer could work int hat same vein:dunno:
 
Bullypulpit said:
Someone fun to demean would be Bill Frist. He's nothing but a windsock...Wherever the political wind blows, that's where he goes. He's got no principles except to cling to power.

Is there a Senator that does?
 
manu1959 said:
funny ted kennedy nancy pelosi or baba boxer could work int hat same vein:dunno:

It's pretty much an indictment of politicians in general, regardless of party. Frist, however, is more egregious than most.
 
Giuliani:

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/rudy_goes_nuclear_opedcolumnists_ryan_sager.htm

RUDY GOES NUCLEAR

By RYAN SAGER

June 14, 2006 -- A small gathering in Mid town yesterday got a sneak peek at Rudy Giuliani's formula as he gears up for a likely 2008 presidential run. That formula: one-third leadership, one-third technocratic centrist and one-third radical conservative reformer.

There's a reason Giuliani outpolls Sen. John McCain regularly when it comes to who conservative Republicans prefer for the presidency - while also maintaining great popularity with centrists - and it was on full display in this Manhattan Institute-hosted talk on energy policy. (For the record, the ex-mayor's firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, does significant work for energy companies.)

Giuliani started off by parlaying a joke about the recent rumors of his (apparently non-existent) plan to buy the Chicago Cubs into an anecdote about a Chicago police officer who came to New York after 9/11 and was helping direct traffic - "I still wonder where he was sending those people," the ex-mayor cracked.

The centrism came in the policy speech, which found the former mayor in full-on Ross Perot mode with a series of charts and graphs detailing 1) how U.S. energy demand has far outstripped domestic production since 1960 and 2) how countries like France and Belgium are far outstripping the United States in their use of nuclear power.

Drawing on his experience managing New York City's power problems, Giuliani spoke of the government red tape that makes it virtually impossible to build power plants, oil refineries and (especially) nuclear-power facilities.

Summing up U.S. energy policy since the 1970s, he was blunt: "We haven't done anything." We haven't drilled in Alaska. We haven't built oil refineries. We haven't ordered a nuclear power plant since 1978.

We need to start doing these things, he said, to diversify. Energy independence, he said, is simply the "wrong paradigm," despite the idea's popularity in quarters of both the Left and the Right. Instead, in a global economy, "We have to diversify, that's our strength . . . You can be independent by being diversified."


And there's room to reach out to the Left on building more nuclear plants now. The technology has grown safer - and nuclear use could reduce emissions that lead to global warming. Giuliani cited support for the idea from the liberal New York Times columnist Tom Friedman and Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore (though, to be fair, Moore has been something of a pariah on the enviro Left since he left that group in 1986).

He also plugged clean coal technology and, yes, ethanol, both of which can be harvested at home, as well as natural gas, which is less geopolitically dicey than petroleum.

The red meat for conservatives, however, came in the Q&A: An audience member asked Giuliani what he would do on education as president.

Without deflecting the loaded premise of the question (no announcement yet, folks), the former mayor launched into an impassioned brief for school choice. "A president has to know the role" of the federal government, he said. "It's more of a leadership role." But as that leader, he would emphasize, "choice and vouchers."

As mayor, he said, he thought he could do for the schools what he did for the police department and other city agencies. But he learned he was wrong. The education bureaucracy and the teachers unions were too deeply entrenched. What's needed, he said, "is to go to a choice system and break up the monopoly."

Even if they believe it, "most Democrats can't say to you what I just said," he told the crowd. "They're not allowed to."

What's more, he said, there's not as much support even among Republicans for school choice as one might think. The GOP's electoral base is largely suburban, and suburban schools are doing just fine. Some suburban parents might even see school vouchers and other choice programs as a threat to their cushy status quo. These suburban Republicans simply aren't affected by what's happening to our urban schools.

"They're just not thinking of the good of the country in general," he said - taking a forceful swipe at the selfishness of a group of voters that he may soon be courting.

But he's not going to forget about choice, he said, because it's a civil-rights issue. He recalled when a private philanthropy offered low-income kids in New York City a chance at scholarships to private and parochial schools - a sort of private version of the public voucher program he'd like to see. There were 167,000 applications for a relative handful of spots. The rest of the kids were left stranded.


"I'll never forget that number," he said.

And conservatives are unlikely to forget his political courage.
 

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