Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

[bripat9643]

The best reason to build the wall is to cut down on Pelosi and Schummer’s donations that they receive from Mexican Drug Cartels.

When will that be? Is something changing?

Haven't you heard, palousey is going to deploy electronic dogs.

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That sounds more like a Trump Joke where he tasks the Military to build him a few. Except, he won't. That would put too many Illegal Aliens out of work on his jobs. (damn, Trump is just too easy)

Not a joke.

Nancy Pelosi's Border Solution: Electronic Dogs

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If it weren't for Russian bullshit..this clown would have nothing to post

You're the one posting Russian bullshit.

 

[The Original Tree]

There is eventually going to be a war in Latin America which will spread to North America.

Being able to monitor our border and secure it will help us when that time comes and huge waves of refugees, and the bad hombres mixed in with them come North.

Being able to control our Border will mitigate some of the dangers in that

 

[basquebromance]

Congress skimped on the wall. 1.5 billion? that's pathetic

 

[McRocket]

Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

Reasons to build the wall

1. Most of the 70,000 accidental drug overdose deaths in America every year are attributable to our lax Southern border. We lost 58,500 Americans in Vietnam over 17 years. We lose almost that many Americans every year because there is no border security.

[I read the first one, rolled my eyes and stopped reading]

'Mexican cartels “transport the bulk of their drugs over the Southwest Border through ports of entry (POEs) using passenger vehicles or tractor trailers,” the Drug Enforcement Administration said in a 2015 report. “The drugs are typically secreted in hidden compartments when transported in passenger vehicles or comingled with legitimate goods when transported in tractor trailers.”

In an essay published earlier this month, Vanda Felbab-Brown, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, wrote that “a barrier in the form of a wall is increasingly irrelevant to the drug trade as it is now practiced because most of the drugs smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico no longer arrive on the backs of those who cross illegally.”'

Will Trump's Wall Stop Drug Smuggling? - FactCheck.org

A wall has almost NOTHING to do with the illegal drug trade.
It's common knowledge for anyone who is not a Trumpbot and/or a dinosaur.


Free advice: do try and watch something else besides Fox News (or worse) so you don't sound so galactically ignorant on things you comment on.


Have a nice day.

 

[basquebromance]

even if there were a national emergency, a wall doesnt solve the problem.

 

[Intolerant]

 

[SandSquid]

Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

Reasons to build the wall

1. Most of the 70,000 accidental drug overdose deaths in America every year are attributable to our lax Southern border. We lost 58,500 Americans in Vietnam over 17 years. We lose almost that many Americans every year because there is no border security.

2. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes and nonviolent crimes, including rapes, injuries, accidents and homicides in America every year

3. We can't save them all by bringing them here. Watch the Gumballs Immigration video.



4. The savings on entitlements spent on them per year would be considerable. Figure $90,00 for each of the 10,000,000 - 30,000,000 illegals currently in our country.

5. Democrats voted for border security under Bush and Obama, so why not Trump?

6. The wall could pay for itself in about ten years from the entitlements savings.

7. The Democrats want illegal aliens to be made legal and then be given voting privileges so they can increase their chances of winning elections by selling out their country and countrymen by allowing these people with lower educations and an inability to speak English to become legal voters.

(Arguably criminal behavior.)

8. A country is defined by it's border, laws, language and culture. Take one of them away and we lose our country.

9. And that is the ultimate goal of the Progressives. The collapse of our country so they can rebuild it in THEIR vision.



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https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18 2018 NDTA final low resolution.pdf

1. According to the CDC and the DEA the #1 cause of drug deaths are from PRESCRIPTION OPIOIDS. That has grown over 500% in the past decade and the single fastest growing cause of death. Which the wall does NOTHING to impact. According to the DEA, "Controlled Prescription Drugs (CPDs): CPDs are still responsible for the most drug-involved overdose deaths and are the second most commonly abused substance in the United States." in their 2018 end of year report.

Fentanyl is the #2 cause of drug overdose deaths and "Clandestinely produced fentanyl is trafficked into the United States primarily from China". Also it mentions that the cause of death is how strong it is based on purity... "Fentanyl is transported into the United States in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada, and is also smuggled across the SWB from Mexico. Large volumes of fentanyl are seized at the SWB, although these seizures are typically low in purity, less than ten percent on average. Conversely, the volumes seized after arriving in the mail directly from China can have purities over 90 percent." and that Fenatnyl from China "poses a greater risk to the purchaser/user and can be adulterated many more times." than from Mexico. So once again, the 2nd leading cause of death is heavily caused by area's the wall has no impact on.

On to #3, Heroin. According to that same DEA report "The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers, where the heroin is co-mingled with legal goods" That's right, the best study completed on not where it is being caught, but where the flow is actually at says the wall isn't the solution (sounds like a recurring theme huh?)

And #4, Cocaine. Same DEA report "The majority of cocaine entering the SWB in CY 2016 flowed through the San Diego corridor (6,578 kilograms or 49.8%) and the Rio Grande Valley corridor (2,646 kilograms or 20%) (see Figure 61) at legal ports of entry." Wow.... again wall is your less effective option.

And #5, psychostimulants. Spice and Synthetic Marijuana and such. Where that DEA report said "Wholesale quantities of NPS are usually trafficked to the United States via commercial mail carriers from China"



So what Trumps DEA is saying is that the worst idea for stopping the 5 deadliest drugs that make up 95% of all drug associated overdose deaths is building a wall. Now I could see why El Chapo and his cartels along with the illegal drug makers in China and Big Pharma would LOVE for us to put our attention at this wall, so they can continue to bring their drugs into the US unimpeded. The question is why do you want to take away funding that could instead be used to more effectively end overdose deaths?




As for #2, immigration from the Southern Border is at a 45 year low. Why are we focusing there and not after the companies rewarding illegal immigrants for making it into the US. Sure it would cost the blue collar vote, farming and construction. Sure we would have to hammer down on the owners of places like Mar-A-Lago, Trump golf clubs, and Trump resorts. But we go after drug dealers in the US. Why not go after those who turn a blind eye when hiring illegal immigrants for decades? According to Trumps DHS, the majority of illegals aren't coming through random desert in the border, but overstaying visa's and coming through Ports of Entry. Why are we turning a blind eye again to the #1 reasons unless it's to make sure those owners of resorts get their staffing to build their empire? So why not target the issue allowing those illegal immigrants to be in the US and commit those crimes rather than build a wall which DHS says won't solve it?



As for #5 why Democrats supported these but no longer it's simple. Trumps DEA report shows the facts, that the open border area's are no longer the issue (outside of Canada, which is the mentioned as the top border entry for the #1 foreign made deadly drug). Fencing has been built across the area's most heavily used and changed the issue to Ports of Entry (along with prescription overdose). Why would you intentionally want to fund money to the place where your own data says "this isn't the problem?" and ignore the things they say is? If he wants to use Mexico to pay for it and not put that cost on the taxpayers, fine, no waste. But if he wants to use taxpayer money for something his own DEA says isn't the solution, that seems like something they shouldn't support right?

If the Military got the data and issued a report saying the biggest thing we need is better IED proof vehicles, why would you want to make your stand for getting them umbrellas instead?

Again and again we see that sure, a small number of these issues happen where these walls will be built. But it's like being on a sinking cruise ship and deciding to keep people alive you want to focus on feeding them so they don't risk starving rather fix the leak. Stop the flood. Then worry about the trickle. Unless you want to keep the flood but just make it appear you are doing something about it.

 

[SandSquid]

Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

Reasons to build the wall

1. Most of the 70,000 accidental drug overdose deaths in America every year are attributable to our lax Southern border. We lost 58,500 Americans in Vietnam over 17 years. We lose almost that many Americans every year because there is no border security.

2. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes and nonviolent crimes, including rapes, injuries, accidents and homicides in America every year

3. We can't save them by bringing them here. Watch the Gumballs Immigration video.



4. The savings on entitlements spent on them per year would be considerable. Figure $90,00 for each of the 10,000,000 - 30,000,000 illegals currently in our country.

5. Democrats voted for border security under Bush and Obama, so why not Trump?

6. The wall could pay for itself in about ten years from the entitlements savings.

7. The Democrats want illegal aliens to be made legal and then be given voting privileges so they can increase their chances of winning elections by selling out their country and countrymen by allowing these people with lower educations and an inability to speak English to become legal voters.

(Arguably criminal behavior.)

8. A country is defined by it's border, laws, language and culture. Take one of them away and we lose our country.

9. And that is the ultimate goal of the Progressives. The collapse of our country so they can rebuild it in THEIR vision.



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10. Because we can.

11. Because "fuck you."

And there's the two best reasons. We can take taxpayer money and spend it on something we know isn't the solution just to screw over taxpayers and keep a poor campaign promise.

 

[candycorn]

lol

It’s a list of lies, misinformation, and spin.

We’ve had the same situation on the border for about 60 years. During that time the American imprint on the world from a military standpoint, an economic standpoint, from a cultural standpoint, and even from an intellectual standpoint is unmatched during that time. If any of the nonsense the OP mentioned were a big issue, none of that could have taken place.

 

[BrokeLoser]

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ABSOFUCKINLUTELY!
Is there another button to teleport ALL anchor babies to Mehico as well?

 

[SandSquid]

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Sadly not one Republican would. Their farmers would be screwed. Those blue collar construction businesses would be done for. Why do you think they are bringing up all this hoopla about a wall knowing the majority of the problem now is port of entry smuggling and overstaying visa's? I mean Trump wouldn't even use E-verify for decades, because he needed that labor to build his empire. Only when called out he's literally the problem did he get forced to make that choice. It would be hard saying we have a national emergency on illegal drugs when you employ drug dealers.

 

[SandSquid]

The best reason to build the wall is to cut down on Pelosi and Schummer’s donations that they receive from Mexican Drug Cartels.

Haven't you heard, palousey is going to deploy electronic dogs.

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That sounds more like a Trump Joke where he tasks the Military to build him a few. Except, he won't. That would put too many Illegal Aliens out of work on his jobs. (damn, Trump is just too easy)

Not a joke.

Nancy Pelosi's Border Solution: Electronic Dogs

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If it weren't for Russian bullshit..this clown would have nothing to post

You're the one posting Russian bullshit.

No U are! lol

Still waiting on your sources from your posts the other day. Been a week and the best you had was "you wouldn't look at them anyways" to try and extricate yourself from proving your lies.

 

[beautress]

Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

Reasons to build the wall

1. Most of the 70,000 accidental drug overdose deaths in America every year are attributable to our lax Southern border. We lost 58,500 Americans in Vietnam over 17 years. We lose almost that many Americans every year because there is no border security.

2. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes and nonviolent crimes, including rapes, injuries, accidents and homicides in America every year

3. We can't save them all by bringing them here. Watch the Gumballs Immigration video.



4. The savings on entitlements spent on them per year would be considerable. Figure $90,00 for each of the 10,000,000 - 30,000,000 illegals currently in our country.

5. Democrats voted for border security under Bush and Obama, so why not Trump?

6. The wall could pay for itself in about ten years from the entitlements savings.

7. The Democrats want illegal aliens to be made legal and then be given voting privileges so they can increase their chances of winning elections by selling out their country and countrymen by allowing these people with lower educations and an inability to speak English to become legal voters.

(Arguably criminal behavior.)

8. A country is defined by it's border, laws, language and culture. Take one of them away and we lose our country.

9. And that is the ultimate goal of the Progressives. The collapse of our country so they can rebuild it in THEIR vision.

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School taxes would double to accommodate the emergency created by dual language classes--half the time a teacher has to educate American children would have to be taken away to educate children of another language and culture who cannot read and write on a first grade level, much less a 4th, 5th, or 6th grade level. Many of the children crossing do not know more than 800 words of Spanish and far fewer words of American English.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial

 

[Intolerant]

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ABSOFUCKINLUTELY!
Is there another button to teleport ALL anchor babies to Mehico as well?

It’s a complete package.

 

[danielpalos]

Can you add to this list of reasons to build the wall?

Reasons to build the wall

1. Most of the 70,000 accidental drug overdose deaths in America every year are attributable to our lax Southern border. We lost 58,500 Americans in Vietnam over 17 years. We lose almost that many Americans every year because there is no border security.

2. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes and nonviolent crimes, including rapes, injuries, accidents and homicides in America every year

3. We can't save them all by bringing them here. Watch the Gumballs Immigration video.



4. The savings on entitlements spent on them per year would be considerable. Figure $90,00 for each of the 10,000,000 - 30,000,000 illegals currently in our country.

5. Democrats voted for border security under Bush and Obama, so why not Trump?

6. The wall could pay for itself in about ten years from the entitlements savings.

7. The Democrats want illegal aliens to be made legal and then be given voting privileges so they can increase their chances of winning elections by selling out their country and countrymen by allowing these people with lower educations and an inability to speak English to become legal voters.

(Arguably criminal behavior.)

8. A country is defined by it's border, laws, language and culture. Take one of them away and we lose our country.

9. And that is the ultimate goal of the Progressives. The collapse of our country so they can rebuild it in THEIR vision.



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We should abolish the drug war. We have a Commerce Clause not a drug war clause.

 

[danielpalos]

10. Every state, every city and every community inhabited by Hispanics is an absolute destroyed super shithole....this is not by coincidence.
Communities become what it’s people are. Look to Mexico and Mexifornia for proof.

Alta Californians may need to resort to Yankee forms of ingenuity.

 

[danielpalos]

lol

It’s a list of lies, misinformation, and spin.

Thank Goodness I am not the mostly nice she is going to make Prove it.

 

[bripat9643]

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Hell Yes!

 

[bripat9643]

lol

It’s a list of lies, misinformation, and spin.

We’ve had the same situation on the border for about 60 years. During that time the American imprint on the world from a military standpoint, an economic standpoint, from a cultural standpoint, and even from an intellectual standpoint is unmatched during that time. If any of the nonsense the OP mentioned were a big issue, none of that could have taken place.

We did not have the same situation on the border 60 years ago, moron.