Can the dems make sense out of a potential catastrophe, too many candidates!!

Will so many candidates help or hurt the dem chances to defeat Trump?

  • HELP, since no one will receive too much attention and negative coverage

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • HURT, since so many candidates will create factions that will lose interest like Bernie supporters

    Votes: 8 88.9%
  • Total voters
    9
kyzr

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I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures
  • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
  • Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft
  • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
  • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
  • Michelle Obama, former first lady of the United States
  • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
  • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
  • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
  • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:

March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
 
There's always a ton at the beginning. It will thin out over the next few months.
 
Rambunctious said:
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With Biden's existing grope video as the Trump reelection campaign theme, disgruntled left wing psychos and much of the whole D bench convicted or defending themselves from being accessories for interstate crimes due to sanctuary status this could get Trump a Reagan/LBJ style landslide.
 
The Democrats Are Going With The 'Shotgun-Blast' Approach.....shoot enough bird shot and one pellet is bound to his the target. :p


1 is a fake Indian who swindled a college and a Native American out of a scholarship and violated the BAR

1 is an admitted sexual assaulter who calls himself 'Spartacus'

1 is a corrupt skank who slept her way to the top of politics......

.....and on and on and on.

Still, they thought this was the best way to go about picking a nominee like they did last time, which was basically rig primaries, cheat in debates, engage in election fraud, break laws, and in the end give their preferred proven criminal the nomination she could not win on her own.


This time it's 'the more the merrier'. The more there are the better chance of getting at least ONE good one.

:lmao:
 
There's not a one among the announced candidates or those potentially running worth shit.

That said, I believe they are going to eat each other during the campaign.
 
I had to put them all on one list to see if there was at least one dem I could vote for. There isn't any dem I could vote for. Maybe a Mark Cuban or a Jamie Dimon, because I don't know their policies? Trump looks great by comparison as a known quantity. He's not perfect, but his policies are close to perfect. I don't like his spending spree, but other than that...
 
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
I am always amused at how short some memories are. 1992 comes to mind.
 
bodecea said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
I am always amused at how short some memories are. 1992 comes to mind.
Click to expand...

Fair comparison, in 1992 Bush-41 was an incumbent with bland policies, and Bill Clinton was a "baby boomer" with a smooth and talented speaking style. Bush raised taxes after promising not to, alienating many GOP voters. Ross Perot took 19% of the vote, which gave the election to Clinton who focused on the economy. "Its the economy stupid"

So unless there is a conservative 3rd party candidate to split the GOP vote, and/or the economy tanks. A 1992 style dem win looks unlikely in 2020.
 
bodecea said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
I am always amused at how short some memories are. 1992 comes to mind.
Click to expand...

Clinton (Bill that is) wasn't a lunatic.
 
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
2016 republican candidates

Jeb Bush.
Ben Carson.
Chris Christie.
Ted Cruz.
Carly Fiorina.
Jim Gilmore.
Lindsey Graham.
Mike Huckabee.
Bobby Jindal.
John Kasich.
George Pataki.
Rand Paul.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rick Santorum.
Scott Walker

And of course Cheeto Jesus.

And that's just the declared candidates, not the potentials.
 
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
2016 republican candidates

Jeb Bush.
Ben Carson.
Chris Christie.
Ted Cruz.
Carly Fiorina.
Jim Gilmore.
Lindsey Graham.
Mike Huckabee.
Bobby Jindal.
John Kasich.
George Pataki.
Rand Paul.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rick Santorum.
Scott Walker

And of course Cheeto Jesus.

And that's just the declared candidates, not the potentials.
Click to expand...

There were no additional "potentials" for the GOP, all (17) got in for the first few debates and primaries.

The 2016 GOP primary narrowed down to the big 4, Trump, Cruz, Kasich and Rubio after the first 3 primaries, with Ben Carson hanging around for a few more.
Results of the 2016 Republican Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

IMHO the dem convention will depend upon whom the (712) super-delegates are told to vote for by the polit bureau. The super-delegates call the ball, all others they will fall. The committed delegates will be so diluted by so many candidates that getting the requisite 2,026 delegates to win the nomination will depend upon getting the vast majority of the (712) super-delegates.
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

First cut of candidates after the first few primaries
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

Then after Super Tuesday, the field could look like this:
If the dems want to win, that old white guy named Joe Biden is the one they should nominate. So my bet is that is who will get the super-delegates and win the nomination. Call it a hunch.
Opinion | Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.
 
kyzr said:
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
2016 republican candidates

Jeb Bush.
Ben Carson.
Chris Christie.
Ted Cruz.
Carly Fiorina.
Jim Gilmore.
Lindsey Graham.
Mike Huckabee.
Bobby Jindal.
John Kasich.
George Pataki.
Rand Paul.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rick Santorum.
Scott Walker

And of course Cheeto Jesus.

And that's just the declared candidates, not the potentials.
Click to expand...

There were no additional "potentials" for the GOP, all (17) got in for the first few debates and primaries.

The 2016 GOP primary narrowed down to the big 4, Trump, Cruz, Kasich and Rubio after the first 3 primaries, with Ben Carson hanging around for a few more.
Results of the 2016 Republican Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

IMHO the dem convention will depend upon whom the (712) super-delegates are told to vote for by the polit bureau. The super-delegates call the ball, all others they will fall. The committed delegates will be so diluted by so many candidates that getting the requisite 2,026 delegates to win the nomination will depend upon getting the vast majority of the (712) super-delegates.
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

First cut of candidates after the first few primaries
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

Then after Super Tuesday, the field could look like this:
If the dems want to win, that old white guy named Joe Biden is the one they should nominate. So my bet is that is who will get the super-delegates and win the nomination. Call it a hunch.
Opinion | Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.
Click to expand...
Lol, the op lists potential Democratic candidates that won't be here for the first primaries either. There aren't, and may not be, 17 declared Democratic candidates.

You kids just really really want there to be so you can say "clown car" like we did.
 
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
2016 republican candidates

Jeb Bush.
Ben Carson.
Chris Christie.
Ted Cruz.
Carly Fiorina.
Jim Gilmore.
Lindsey Graham.
Mike Huckabee.
Bobby Jindal.
John Kasich.
George Pataki.
Rand Paul.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rick Santorum.
Scott Walker

And of course Cheeto Jesus.

And that's just the declared candidates, not the potentials.
Click to expand...

There were no additional "potentials" for the GOP, all (17) got in for the first few debates and primaries.

The 2016 GOP primary narrowed down to the big 4, Trump, Cruz, Kasich and Rubio after the first 3 primaries, with Ben Carson hanging around for a few more.
Results of the 2016 Republican Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

IMHO the dem convention will depend upon whom the (712) super-delegates are told to vote for by the polit bureau. The super-delegates call the ball, all others they will fall. The committed delegates will be so diluted by so many candidates that getting the requisite 2,026 delegates to win the nomination will depend upon getting the vast majority of the (712) super-delegates.
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

First cut of candidates after the first few primaries
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

Then after Super Tuesday, the field could look like this:
If the dems want to win, that old white guy named Joe Biden is the one they should nominate. So my bet is that is who will get the super-delegates and win the nomination. Call it a hunch.
Opinion | Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.
Click to expand...
Lol, the op lists potential Democratic candidates that won't be here for the first primaries either. There aren't, and may not be, 17 declared Democratic candidates.

You kids just really really want there to be so you can say "clown car" like we did.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm a great grandfather 3x...
 
kyzr said:
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
Crepitus said:
kyzr said:
I was curious how the democrats will elect their 2020 presidential candidate. It looks like there will be forums and debates starting in June, but no one knows who will be invited and who will not. At present there are (10) declared candidates and (40) potential candidates. Even if we can whittle that down by half, that still leaves (25) candidates. So the dems will need to decide, like the GOP did, who gets to sit at the big table and who gets to sit at the kiddie tables? This looks like a crazy process right from the start, at least until Super Tuesday, then it gets more or less normal?!

Presidential candidates, 2020 - Ballotpedia
Announced Democrat Candidates for President
Potential politician candidates:
Business executives and public figures



    • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase
    • Bob Iger, CEO of Disney
    • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, actor and professional wrestler
    • Oprah Winfrey, mass media owner and philanthropist
    • Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook founder
    • Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks
    • Michael Bloomberg, multi-billionaire
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
2019: Starting in June, a series of forums and debates are expected to take place

2020 Sequence of early primaries:


March 3: Super Tuesday (This one will cull the herd significantly)
Click to expand...
2016 republican candidates

Jeb Bush.
Ben Carson.
Chris Christie.
Ted Cruz.
Carly Fiorina.
Jim Gilmore.
Lindsey Graham.
Mike Huckabee.
Bobby Jindal.
John Kasich.
George Pataki.
Rand Paul.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rick Santorum.
Scott Walker

And of course Cheeto Jesus.

And that's just the declared candidates, not the potentials.
Click to expand...

There were no additional "potentials" for the GOP, all (17) got in for the first few debates and primaries.

The 2016 GOP primary narrowed down to the big 4, Trump, Cruz, Kasich and Rubio after the first 3 primaries, with Ben Carson hanging around for a few more.
Results of the 2016 Republican Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

IMHO the dem convention will depend upon whom the (712) super-delegates are told to vote for by the polit bureau. The super-delegates call the ball, all others they will fall. The committed delegates will be so diluted by so many candidates that getting the requisite 2,026 delegates to win the nomination will depend upon getting the vast majority of the (712) super-delegates.
2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

First cut of candidates after the first few primaries
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination

Then after Super Tuesday, the field could look like this:
If the dems want to win, that old white guy named Joe Biden is the one they should nominate. So my bet is that is who will get the super-delegates and win the nomination. Call it a hunch.
Opinion | Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.
Click to expand...
Lol, the op lists potential Democratic candidates that won't be here for the first primaries either. There aren't, and may not be, 17 declared Democratic candidates.

You kids just really really want there to be so you can say "clown car" like we did.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm a great grandfather 3x...
Click to expand...
It's not yer age, it's yer demeanor.
 
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