Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

[Brutus]

supposed to be so sensitive.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Liberals prefer to give YOUR money to the poor.

 

[gekaap]

supposed to be so sensitive.

You must first support your claim before an opposing view is claim of explanation.

 

[rdean]

Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

Sure. Republicans give to churches.

Democrats give to universities and create funds for scholarships. They will will help the disadvantaged to learn skills and get "real" jobs. None of those things are counted as "charity".

Republicans will dig out some old can of creamed corn 5 years old out of the pantry, give it to the church and feel good they "gave" so much. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

It's a difference in philosophy. You can see it in the way Republicans feel helping your fellow American is nasty socialism, but giving him that old, shitty can of creamed corn is "gawdly".

 

[Mad Scientist]

Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

Sure. Republicans give to churches.

Democrats give to universities and create funds for scholarships. They will will help the disadvantaged to learn skills and get "real" jobs. None of those things are counted as "charity".

Republicans will dig out some old can of creamed corn 5 years old out of the pantry, give it to the church and feel good they "gave" so much. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

It's a difference in philosophy. You can see it in the way Republicans feel helping your fellow American is nasty socialism, but giving him that old, shitty can of creamed corn is "gawdly".

Did you know that a large percentage of Black Americans go to church rdean? Did you know they give generously of their time and money to the church?

Got any names to call them? Got anything disparaging to say about Blacks who attend Church?

 

[Brutus]

Liberals prefer to give YOUR money to the poor.

Brutus: maybe this makes them feel less guilty about being so un charitable personally?

 

[Brutus]

supposed to be so sensitive.

You must first support your claim before an opposing view is claim of explanation.

Brutus: do you doubt the claim that Republicans give more to charity?? You should first admit to your liberal ignorance.

 

[rdean]

Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

Sure. Republicans give to churches.

Democrats give to universities and create funds for scholarships. They will will help the disadvantaged to learn skills and get "real" jobs. None of those things are counted as "charity".

Republicans will dig out some old can of creamed corn 5 years old out of the pantry, give it to the church and feel good they "gave" so much. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

It's a difference in philosophy. You can see it in the way Republicans feel helping your fellow American is nasty socialism, but giving him that old, shitty can of creamed corn is "gawdly".

Did you know that a large percentage of Black Americans go to church rdean? Did you know they give generously of their time and money to the church?

Got any names to call them? Got anything disparaging to say about Blacks who attend Church?

I don't, but Republicans do. Look at what they say about President Obama. And he's a Christian.

 

[gekaap]

Brutus: do you doubt the claim that Republicans give more to charity?? You should first admit to your liberal ignorance.

Neither do I have any reason to accept an extraordinary claim without extraordinary proof, nor am I liberal, nor am I ignorant.

 

[rdean]

Brutus: do you doubt the claim that Republicans give more to charity?? You should first admit to your liberal ignorance.

Neither do I have any reason to accept an extraordinary claim without extraordinary proof, nor am I liberal, nor am I ignorant.

Liberal is a good thing. The majority of scientists identify as "liberal".

 

[bodecea]

supposed to be so sensitive.

How do you know Conservatives give more to charity?

 

[rikules]

supposed to be so sensitive.

first, it was NOT "MUCH MORE". you are stretching the truth (which is a lie)

it was a mere 30% more

and, I contend it was flawed;

Who Gives and Who Doesn't? - ABC News


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Who Gives and Who Doesn't?
Putting the Stereotypes to the Test


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the first flaw is in the comparison of states; red v blue

there is no such thing as a completely red or blue state. in fact, even the REDDEST states (ala, 49%) can only claim about 50% of the population being "conservative" (look it up)

which means that MUCH of the population in those states is either MODERATE/NOT-conservative or liberal

in fact. MOST of the population of these red states specifically says it is NOT conservative

so....
there is no way of knowing WHO donated at those super markets. And it is logically and factually flawed to automatically assume that the money MUST have been donated by ONLY conservatives.

for all we know the lions share of the money donated in RED states might have come from the MAJORITY who do NOT consider themselves conservative.


second;
i've been involved in various charities for over 10 years. the last charity I was involved with was at a music hall in maine that was being renovated. There were a number of other volunteers....who donated TIME and EFFORT (as opposed to money?)...and they were ALL liberals and democrats.

the ONLY conservative involved was the guy who use to run the sound board...and he charged $400 a night to wokr at these charity events

prior to that I was involved (for 5 years) in a major charity rummage sale (massive!) we collected peoples donations all year long and got them packed and stacked and ready for the big sale. during the year there were about 10 of us collecting, cleaning and stacking. most of us put in 3-5 days a week for 4 -6 hours a day. ALL of us were democrats and liberal except for 1 guy; who was a lazy slob who spent more time yaking about politics than he did working; did a very poor job working, did NOT do the tasks I asked him to do, and he always going to the higher ups and complaining/causing trouble...


during the big sale event (really massive) there were 600-700 volunteers who helped out during the 8 day event. I was in a position of authority and got to know many of the volunteers over the years. it was obvious that MOST of them were NOT conservatives. it's easy to spot the conservative; he is either loudly arguing about politics or causing a problem in one of the departments. Since we only had about 10 people like that we can assume (the way this article assumes that only conservatives donate in red states) that those were the only conservatives

liberals gave MUCH MORE of their time to charities

 

[rdean]

supposed to be so sensitive.

How do you know Conservatives give more to charity?

There are a lot of statistics out that that show that to be a fact. But everyone knows, "statistics can lie".

Which is why I pointed out that conservatives tend to give more to churches. They will donate old clothes and furniture and then inflate the price to get a tax break. They give the old stuff out of of the pantry. And they give some money.

Liberals tend to give to organizations "NOT" considered charities that will help people get an education, support day care, battered women's shelters, scholarships and so on.

Conservatives do the same thing, just not so much.

Check out the "Walter Annenberg Foundation". An extremely right wing, conservative foundation that President Obama worked at in Chicago which was set up by a very close friend of President Reagan to improve schools. It's probably where Obama learned so much about Reagan.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

Sure. Republicans give to churches.

Democrats give to universities and create funds for scholarships. They will will help the disadvantaged to learn skills and get "real" jobs. None of those things are counted as "charity".

Republicans will dig out some old can of creamed corn 5 years old out of the pantry, give it to the church and feel good they "gave" so much. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

It's a difference in philosophy. You can see it in the way Republicans feel helping your fellow American is nasty socialism, but giving him that old, shitty can of creamed corn is "gawdly".

Do you have anything to back that up, or is it your typical partisan bullshit?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

supposed to be so sensitive.

How do you know Conservatives give more to charity?

There are a lot of statistics out that that show that to be a fact. But everyone knows, "statistics can lie".

Which is why I pointed out that conservatives tend to give more to churches. They will donate old clothes and furniture and then inflate the price to get a tax break. They give the old stuff out of of the pantry. And they give some money.

Liberals tend to give to organizations "NOT" considered charities that will help people get an education, support day care, battered women's shelters, scholarships and so on.

Conservatives do the same thing, just not so much.

Check out the "Walter Annenberg Foundation". An extremely right wing, conservative foundation that President Obama worked at in Chicago which was set up by a very close friend of President Reagan to improve schools. It's probably where Obama learned so much about Reagan.

Wow, are you stupid. Any donation to a university, a hospital, or even a scholarship fund is considered a donation to charity.

 

[Vel]

I think this thread is in the wrong category. The thought that the Democrat philosophy is, "TEACH a man to fish" is so laughable that it is worthy of the humor forum.

 

[mnbasketball]

It's said that the poorest in our nation out give the richest in our nation by a wide margin in the % of what they give, and that ain't counting the time they give.

 

[mnbasketball]

I think this thread is in the wrong category. The thought that the Democrat philosophy is, "TEACH a man to fish" is so laughable that it is worth of the humor forum.

Yes that is funny, we all know there won't be any fish left by the time the republicans net them all and sell them at the market and then demand that the rest of us help them replenish it.

 

[rdean]

Can someone explain why Republicans give much more to charity when liberals are....

Sure. Republicans give to churches.

Democrats give to universities and create funds for scholarships. They will will help the disadvantaged to learn skills and get "real" jobs. None of those things are counted as "charity".

Republicans will dig out some old can of creamed corn 5 years old out of the pantry, give it to the church and feel good they "gave" so much. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

It's a difference in philosophy. You can see it in the way Republicans feel helping your fellow American is nasty socialism, but giving him that old, shitty can of creamed corn is "gawdly".

Do you have anything to back that up, or is it your typical partisan bullshit?

And who "backed up" "conservatives give more than liberals"?

I've been though threads like this several times. It's true, conservatives give more to charity. Liberals give to organizations that help people.

Look at Acorn. Demonized by conservatives. Conservatives screamed "voter fraud" where there wasn't any. There was some problems with voter registration, but conservatives refuse to see that it was Acorn itself that reported the inconsistencies to the authorities.

Acorn helped helped people get jobs, homes and worked for voter registration.

Then right wingers went into Acorn, videotaped the workers, then spliced in film from somewhere else of youngsters dressed in pimp and slut outfits. They asked Acorn employees about prostitution but ignored the fact that the employees went directly to the police after those kids left. Still Acorn was brought down.

Then you have such organizations as The National Endowment for the Arts:

About Us

To date, the NEA has awarded more than $4 billion to support artistic excellence, creativity, and innovation for the benefit of individuals and communities. The NEA extends its work through partnerships with state arts agencies, local leaders, other federal agencies, and the philanthropic sector.

----------------- Do conservatives give much to such organizations? We know the answer to that.

A mere 20 colleges and universities received more than $7 billion in 2009. Why would more than a few conservatives give to such organizations when conservative in power are slashing education and are trying to destroy teachers right to bargain?

 

[JamesInFlorida]

I worked at a not-for-profit as an intern over a summer of college. I must admit I was shocked that Republicans contributed quite a bit more money towards the charity. Oh and this was a non-religious charity, that helped children/teenagers in poverty ridden areas. Could be just that one, but still.