Free market principles demand that the way to impr. education is to pay teachers more

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    If you have a shortage of people filling a given job field....

    If you have too many people in the field performing at sub par....

    If you cannot attract better skilled and qualified people....

    The free market approach is to offer more highly skilled people a better salary than they will find elsewhere, so that they will want to do the job you are asking them. So why do so many conservatives so often complain about teachers being paid too much?
     
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    That wold work, were there a true free market for teachers and schools...Which there isn't.

    When you come across the Curt Flood of the teaching profession, give us a call.
     
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    How do you account for the present dismal situation regarding the nations status in education? Teachers aren't paupers are they?
     
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    What would the status of the medical field be if doctor's salaries were reduced to what teachers make? Probably be pretty dismal, eh?
     
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    The simple answer is you have no idea what the free market would do...
    Chances are though that a lot less people would be going to school in a freer market yet our country/economy would be producing a much stronger and competitive work force. “Higher Education” is having an exact opposite effect as it claims it would have delivered. Schooling cost more and jobs pay less… the fact that someone has an “education” means nothing anymore as most jobs could be learned in a few months on the job by a high school dropout.

    We are soon entering a time where people are paying for a degree to do menial tasks in society and “Higher Education” will be determined by who can afford a bigger degree. The Government spends more every year and yet is always way behind… Gee, I wonder why lol.

    In all it’s much bigger than what I care to explain.
     
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    As you see the Government get more and more into HC you will see just that... Just like you have with Education.
     
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    You forgot about performance testing. Americans schools suck, they don't deserve any more money until we start getting results.

    Smart people wouldn't go into the medical field because it costs 250,000 American dollars thereabouts to get an MD and they would never be able to pay their tuition off.

    How much does a Teacher pay to get her credential? (You haven't thought of this have you?)

    My solution? Get the Government out of the student loan business for starters.

    Gekaap, what European Nation are you from? I'm guessing Norway?
     
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    This is what you get with people who try to fix problems from the ass end of that problem and not the root cause. "More Money" lol... And every time it fails you flip everyone off and claim "more Money!"
     
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    Typical libturd, you don't answer questions.. you ask more questions.. tell me libturd.. isn't comparing doctors to teachers a bit of a stretch? wise up
     
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    yep,, money is rasied at the local and state levels for schools, throw all the federal tax payers money into the kittty and we're still left with a shitty education system. Hell,, in Florida they even agreed to a lottery saying it would solve all the damn problems,, not by a long shot. Again,, liberals run the late great state of californication,, they used to have the best school system in the world,, after liberals got through with it though it ain't worth crap.
     

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