Can God love?

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Can God love?

We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

Regards
DL

These following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoPhgTkuY&feature=player_embedded](9) His Plan - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4TnrskE0&feature=related]Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7SPJllNoc]God is love? - YouTube[/ame]
 
God and Jesus loves all.

Except they hates gays and interracial couples and non believers and other religions and sex and etc etc.
How hypocritical can you get? Religion does not give you the right to be a dick and force your shit down people's throats.

Religion is to love and worship, not to be treated like a penis.


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Can God love?

We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

Regards
DL

These following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.

(9) His Plan - YouTube

Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism - YouTube

God is love? - YouTube



1 John 4:6-8
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
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Can God love?

We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

Regards
DL

These following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.

(9) His Plan - YouTube

Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism - YouTube

God is love? - YouTube



1 John 4:6-8
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
.

So god is dead? :confused:

Sorry, couldn't help myself! :lol:
 
Can God love?

We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

Regards
DL

These following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.

(9) His Plan - YouTube

Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism - YouTube

God is love? - YouTube



1 John 4:6-8
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
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So god is dead? :confused:

Sorry, couldn't help myself! :lol:

:) haha... at least you are kind/funny about it


Sure, yes, the rest of truth... His ascension!!!:

Jesus' resurrection and ascension | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Jesus' Ascension and Return

The Bible tells us that Jesus ascended into the sky (Acts 1:9-11). When He did this He was still in physical form as I've demonstrated above. In addition, the Bible tells us that Jesus will return in the same manner.

"And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven," (Acts 1:9-11).
Since the Bible teaches us that Jesus is in bodily form now (Col. 2:9), then how does the Oneness Pentecostal person maintain that God is in the form of the Holy Spirit? Also, when Jesus returns, will He return in His body? Will God's form then revert to the form of the Son at His return according to Oneness?

I do not think Oneness Pentecostal theology is correct for many reasons. But here, with this issue of Jesus' resurrection and ascension, I see their theology denying the incarnation of God in flesh right now. After all, it says in Col. 2:9 that Jesus is in bodily form now. Oneness denies that since God, according to its theology, is now supposed to be in the form of the Holy Spirit.



John 11:25

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
 
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1 John 4:6-8
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
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I guess that you did not compare the quotes in th O P when you decided to thump.

Why are your quotes better than mine? Or are they?

That aside, if all we are going to do is thump at each other-----

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related]Women Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related]Women Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related]Holy Bible - Epic Fail - YouTube[/ame]

Regards
DL
 
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Jesus' Ascension and Return

The Bible tells us that Jesus ascended into the sky (Acts 1:9-11). When He did this He was still in physical form as I've demonstrated above. In addition, the Bible tells us that Jesus will return in the same manner.

Do you find it strange that the 4 main gospels do not mention this fantastic Ascension of yours?

Do you care what modern scholarship says or do you prefer to live in the knowledge that is 3,000 years old like most non thinking thumpers?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xH93PSZ6fQ]Bart Ehrman (3/21/11) - YouTube[/ame]

Regards
DL
 
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1 John 4:6-8
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
.

I guess that you did not compare the quotes in th O P when you decided to thump.

Why are your quotes better than mine? Or are they?

That aside, if all we are going to do is thump at each other-----

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related]Women Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related]Women Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related]Holy Bible - Epic Fail - YouTube[/ame]

Regards
DL

Atonement for sin was required and this son was God.

Joh 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 No one has greater love than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

That is exactly what he did he saved many for this act.
 
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That is exactly what he did he saved many for this act.

So the dogma says.

You know this as a fact, how?

Further. What do these quotes tell you?

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Psalm 49:7
None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Regards
DL
 
Women and men are a compliment to each other.

True but that does not mean that women should not be given equality yet the church will deny it to her.

Women compliment men only as long as they sit down shut up and do as told by their male masters.

Regards
DL
 
Women and men are a compliment to each other.

True but that does not mean that women should not be given equality yet the church will deny it to her.

Women compliment men only as long as they sit down shut up and do as told by their male masters.

Regards
DL

You forgot to add

Women are the main reason a man will join a group.

Male bonding only goes so far.
 

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