Can big government & liberty coincide?

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    Yep.

    The notion that separate little states are going to protect individual liberties is absurd.
     
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    The term "big government" is really just an abstract term most often used without specifics to represent Obama’s communist control of every aspect of the daily lives of Republicans. The article is kind of ego centric...because it's examples of wrong sized "big government" have to do with his "liberty" "properity" "harmony" and "morality suffering. For everyone of those individual sufferings, somebody benefitted from that. I think it's a bit naive to think this isn't just ordinary prediatory human behavior at work, which makes the article a bunch of phony outrage to me.
     
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    Sure, they can. However, we have seen the opposite in America.

    As the government grows and wages more useless and endless wars, civil liberties are curtailed. Additionally, large corporations, banks, and the MIC are all long arm of the government. Corporatism thrives off of big government.
     
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    As long as you pay taxes you will never be free.

    Stop paying taxes now!!!
     
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    Apparently you do not read links.

    Some states, like California, do more to protect individual rights than the federal government. If we accepted your definition of the supremacy clause this would be prohibited, but, thankfully, this is one area where even progressives support state's rights.
     
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    Really?
    WHy?
    Can you back that statement up?
     
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    Large, far reaching government is the antithesis of liberty.
     
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    The thing you need to know about government is simple. Government does not create wealth. It can transfer wealth at best, and destroy wealth at worst. It steals money from the productive sector of the economy, draining those resources away from private individuals, and squanders them on arbitrary projects. The fallacy of central planning and big government is that government knows best. It never will, and will always use resources less efficiently than the free market.
     

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