Can Atheists be Moral?

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    And yet at any point in time we can either be moving towards God, away from God or be static in our relationship with God.
     
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    That was before the Hubble telescope showed so many galaxies which we thought were stars.

    We should expect one intelligent life form in each galaxy.
     
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    Yes, at least one life form. defined as intelligent is it does not project its mythologies onto the cosmos.

    'Nature is not opposed to invention, invention being part of nature itself. Nature is opposed to myth.' (Deleuze)
     
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    ding has nothing to say about the fascist asshole, Paul, who attempts to dupe the mesmerized prisoners.
    d's last post shows that there has been serious theological molestations done to the scapegoat. This excerpt reveals the contradictions in d's reasoning of moving toward or away from, and why telescopes also fail:

    'The absolutely infinite cannot be de-fined as standing-out in relation to other things, nor even conceived as a determinate entity over against finitude as a whole, for then it would be represented as finite, i.e., as limited or bounded by another entity or entities that it is not, in which case it would not be absolutely unlimited. In the case of christianity, this philosophical insight comes into conflict with religious belief in a god who is represented as an infinite Person in a determinate relation with a finite world that he has created and (at least part of which) he plants to redeem. Jewish and Muslim religious scholars have similar difficulties.'
    (Shults, Iconoclastic Theology)
     
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    Shults, continued:

    'christian theologians, like their counterparts in other monotheistic traditions that originated in west Asia, have developed a variety of strategies for dealing with this tension within their religious coalitions. I will try to illuminate the motivation for such strategies, and explain the sense in which their failure secretes atheism.

    The main point at this stage is that many theologians would not at all be offended at the idea of their discipline deals with that which is "beyond being." The problem they will have with Deleuze is his a-theism; that is, his denial of the reality of a specific kind on non-existent Entity, a personal and transcendent god who establishes moralistic codes for a religious coalition. As we will see in the following chapters, Deleuze is not a big fan of religion. From his first (acknowledged) book on Hume, in which he equates religion with the fanciful and illegitimate use of extensive rules of association (Expressionism in Philosophy, 76), to his last book (with Guattari), in which he argues that monotheism and despotic, imperial States are intrinsically linked (What is Philosophy, 43), Deleuze rejected modes of argumentation that appeal to dogmatic images of an allegedly transcendent, morally relevant Entity.'
     
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    My world doesn’t revolve around Paul.
     
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    There are no errors in the possible state of relationships. There are logically only three possible states.
     
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    "We should expect one intelligent life form in each galaxy."

    I wonder if there is any intelligent life in OUR galaxy.....?
     
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    you don't think you might be overstating the possibility do you ... 100 billion to 1.

    the physiology that sustains life on planet Earth is not native to the planet but developed as a substance long after the planets formation. that might conclude, anywhere the conditions are favorable life will evolve - from the metaphysical. and potentially in abundance.
     

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