But, Aren't Nazis and Fascists Really Left-Wingers?

[tooAlive]

The last time you checked was 1964?

The ‘right’ has changed a lot since then, they’ve become big government advocates. More government in your bedroom with their opposition to privacy rights, more government in your home and personal life with their opposition to due process and equal protection rights, more government agencies, and an ever larger military.

Indeed, the GWB administration brought us the Patriot Act, the TSA, and the Department of Homeland ‘Security.’ Between 2001 and 2007 alone the right made government larger and the deficit bigger while attempting to diminish our civil liberties.

So, no, the ‘right’ has nothing to do with ‘smaller’ government.

Well then, who is about smaller government? Both sides surely can't be "big government," otherwise what would the difference be?

Although I do agree with you; the right we have today (in power) is as much about big government as the left.

 

[hazlnut]

I can't help but laugh when I (or another fellow conservative) get called a Nazi or a Fascist.

Aren't Nazism and Fascism on the far left of the political spectrum?

Um... no.

That would be the right.

You realize your fake spectrum makes no sense. As the word liberal means freedom, free-thinking, open minded.

You can't just reinvent political science and not get called out as an IDIOT.

 

[hazlnut]

Let me say it one more time, the OP is an idiot who must have flunked out of Jr. College.

see political spectrum below..

 

[tooAlive]

No, it's not.

Fascism (pron.: /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.[1][2] Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training.

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism) was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany.[1][2][3][4] It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.[5] Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture

Both of those seem to give the state quite a bit of power; a lot like an monarchy/oligarchy or totalitarian dictatorship. Last I checked, the right is all about a smaller government. And we all know the extreme right is anarchy, which is no government at all.

Well check again.

The right support a gargantuan government so long as they are in charge.

Obama Care is bad. But if the exact program had been adopted by Bush then they right would claim that Bushcare is out sight.

Those fucking contradictions have made the republicans an ineffective opposition to the democrats.

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I'm talking about ideologies.

The "right" we have representing our ideas today are just as bought out as the left.

 

[AmyNation]

Both of those seem to give the state quite a bit of power; a lot like an monarchy/oligarchy or totalitarian dictatorship. Last I checked, the right is all about a smaller government. And we all know the extreme right is anarchy, which is no government at all.

Well check again.

The right support a gargantuan government so long as they are in charge.

Obama Care is bad. But if the exact program had been adopted by Bush then they right would claim that Bushcare is out sight.

Those fucking contradictions have made the republicans an ineffective opposition to the democrats.

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I'm talking about ideologies.

The "right" we have representing our ideas today are just as bought out as the left.

The more extreme you get, the bigger the government, and the more similar the politcal parties become. Think circle, not line.

 

[Sallow]

I have no desire to teach you about how Nazis were not socialist. If you want to lean something, go dig up one of the many threads about it.

Socialism is the extreme left, fascism is the extreme right, both are totalitarian.

How can Fascism and Anarchy both exist on the far right? They contradict each other.

Anarchy is basically "far left". Least it use to be.

 

[tooAlive]

Um... no.

That would be the right.

You realize your fake spectrum makes no sense. As the word liberal means freedom, free-thinking, open minded.

You can't just reinvent political science and not get called out as an IDIOT.

Really? Liberals are all about freedom?

More freedom by taking away our right to bear arms? More freedom by advocating against the right to work?

 

[Contumacious]

Um... no.

That would be the right.

You realize your fake spectrum makes no sense. As the word liberal means freedom, free-thinking, open minded.

You can't just reinvent political science and not get called out as an IDIOT.

And of course, the ONLY people allowed to think freely are the government supremacists - The Commissars - everyone else go to the Gulag.

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[LogikAndReazon]

Now the poor little leftist darlings will be scrambling for their dictionaries searching for escape

 

[edthecynic]

No, it's not.

Nope.

Actually, Nazis were fanatical right wing Christians.

You miss the whole holocaust thing?

Fascism (pron.: /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.[1][2] Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training.

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism) was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany.[1][2][3][4] It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.[5] Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture

Both of those seem to give the state quite a bit of power; a lot like an monarchy/oligarchy or totalitarian dictatorship. Last I checked, the right is all about a smaller government. And we all know the extreme right is anarchy, which is no government at all.

The Right-wing CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood is all about SAYING one thing and DOING the opposite!

The Right has never and will never stand for no government! They, in fact, want to have government control who you can marry or what women can do with their bodies. Anarchy has always been the realm of the Far Left. Our Founding Fathers were just to the Right of the Far Left, they believed in a Constitutional Republic. The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood simply hijacked the terms and redefined them.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: * I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate.* He who controls the language controls the debate.*

 

[Contumacious]

You realize your fake spectrum makes no sense. As the word liberal means freedom, free-thinking, open minded.

You can't just reinvent political science and not get called out as an IDIOT.

Really? Liberals are all about freedom?

More freedom by taking away our right to bear arms? More freedom by advocating against the right to work?

Yes, indeed, they do.

They sincerely believe that they should be free to steal and enslave.

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[Procrustes Stretched]

I can't help but laugh when I (or another fellow conservative) get called a Nazi or a Fascist.

Aren't Nazism and Fascism on the far left of the political spectrum?

Yeah, it's why they went after all the leftists: lefty socialists and communists and Democrats

 

[tooAlive]

 

[Black_Label]

The last time you checked was 1964?

The ‘right’ has changed a lot since then, they’ve become big government advocates. More government in your bedroom with their opposition to privacy rights, more government in your home and personal life with their opposition to due process and equal protection rights, more government agencies, and an ever larger military.

Indeed, the GWB administration brought us the Patriot Act, the TSA, and the Department of Homeland ‘Security.’ Between 2001 and 2007 alone the right made government larger and the deficit bigger while attempting to diminish our civil liberties.

So, no, the ‘right’ has nothing to do with ‘smaller’ government.

Well then, who is about smaller government? Both sides surely can't be "big government," otherwise what would the difference be?

Although I do agree with you; the right we have today (in power) is as much about big government as the left.

The only ones that want true, across the board small government are libertarians.

Today's GOP are radical right wing, huge government fascists.

 

[bodecea]

No, it's not.

Nope.

Actually, Nazis were fanatical right wing Christians.

You miss the whole holocaust thing?

Fascism (pron.: /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.[1][2] Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training.

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism) was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany.[1][2][3][4] It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.[5] Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture

Both of those seem to give the state quite a bit of power; a lot like an monarchy/oligarchy or totalitarian dictatorship. Last I checked, the right is all about a smaller government. And we all know the extreme right is anarchy, which is no government at all.

National Socialists were socialist like Peoples Republic of China is a republic.

 

[del]

I can't help but laugh when I (or another fellow conservative) get called a Nazi or a Fascist.

Aren't Nazism and Fascism on the far left of the political spectrum?

The Political Spectrum Easily Explained - Basic Forms of Government - YouTube

only if you're a complete fuckwit, with no grasp of reality or basic politics.

so in your case, yes, it's true.

 

[Political Junky]

The Nazis came for the Socialists, the trade unionists, Jews, homosexuals, gypsies ... oh so Liberal.

 

[francoHFW]

Communism<socialism<liberal<center>Conservative>fascist

End of story. And socialism in the real world is DEMOCRATIC- hence all the differences with communism.

The only thing socialist about Nazis is their propaganda.

 

[del]

I can't help but laugh when I (or another fellow conservative) get called a Nazi or a Fascist.

Isn't Nazism and Fascism on the far left of the political spectrum?

Hardly! Your education seems to be lacking in both the understanding of basic definitions and English grammar. Finish school and get back to us.

Thanks for pointing that out. I blame our public education system.

apparently personal responsibility is out of vogue amongst the fuckwit conservative population.

color me shocked

 

[hazlnut]

I can't help but laugh when I (or another fellow conservative) get called a Nazi or a Fascist.

Aren't Nazism and Fascism on the far left of the political spectrum?

Yeah, it's why they went after all the leftists: lefty socialists and communists and Democrats

Shhh...

History comes from textbooks.

They prefer the glenn beck version.