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That's much closer to the truth than what we currently hear from the right, including many self-proclaimed Tea-party people/supporters.
They've kinda admitted it with their "Obama made it worse" meme, but that's still not the truth.
Bush and his cronies wrecked the economy so bad it will take a lot more than just Obama and/or 4 years to properly repair it.
This is why I can't and won't take tea-party people seriously. Not the ones who constantly put out the message that Obama made all things bad all of a sudden, which just happens to be just about all of them.
The right will always spin and twist and attempt to wiggle their way out of responsibility, just like they did when they absolutely abandoned Bush after staunchly supporting him for 7 years straight.
This isn't the party that Reagan would recognize, although it is the party that Reagan created.
Funny - Buchanan fucked up America and Lincoln didn't whine about Buchanan.
Ever.
Obama needs to grow a set, vs. flying off to Martha's Vineyard.
Funny, this time his presidency, Bush had taken 235 vacation days, Clinton 139. If Obama had taken the entire 10 days, it would have totaled 70. But it's different with Obama. He's black.
[/QUOTEBut it's different with Obama. He's black.
And boom there it is the race card gets played.....
really, you've proof of this? Are we skipping counting the "working" vacations while including them for Bush and Clinton to try and pander a political inanity?Funny - Buchanan fucked up America and Lincoln didn't whine about Buchanan.
Ever.
Obama needs to grow a set, vs. flying off to Martha's Vineyard.
Funny, this time his presidency, Bush had taken 235 vacation days, Clinton 139. If Obama had taken the entire 10 days, it would have totaled 70. But it's different with Obama. He's black.
Funny - Buchanan fucked up America and Lincoln didn't whine about Buchanan.
Ever.
Obama needs to grow a set, vs. flying off to Martha's Vineyard.
Funny, this time his presidency, Bush had taken 235 vacation days, Clinton 139. If Obama had taken the entire 10 days, it would have totaled 70. But it's different with Obama. He's black.
Workin hard and looking good in my special ed helmet!really, you've proof of this? Are we skipping counting the "working" vacations while including them for Bush and Clinton to try and pander a political inanity?Funny, this time his presidency, Bush had taken 235 vacation days, Clinton 139. If Obama had taken the entire 10 days, it would have totaled 70. But it's different with Obama. He's black.
Oh, Bush was "working" while he was on vacation. Oh, OK, now I get it.
You guys make any excuse. When Obama goes on vacation, he doesn't do anything, but when Bush went on vacation, he still worked. Ridiculous.
It took both parties to get the economy where it is Marc.....yes, that means the democrats were part of the mess as were the republicans. Keep it real, dude.
That's much closer to the truth than what we currently hear from the right, including many self-proclaimed Tea-party people/supporters.
They've kinda admitted it with their "Obama made it worse" meme, but that's still not the truth.
Bush and his cronies wrecked the economy so bad it will take a lot more than just Obama and/or 4 years to properly repair it.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
Bullshit and apple butter. We've been over-spending for a few generations now.
Tax cuts USUALLY result in greater collected revenues. It worked out that way when Kennedy cut taxes, when Reagan cut taxes AND when Bush cut taxes.
The republicans had a chance when they controlled the WH & Congress & they blew it. Obama & the dems have made things worse.
It's time to act fiscally responsible, like yesterday.
Our best fiscal decisions came from the geeky John Kasich (R-OH) during the Clinton administration.
The republican congresses created surpluses (for which WJ Clinton received undue credit).
It's past time we spent LESS than we take in & apply the surplus to the nation debt (something nobody ever talks about)
It took both parties to get the economy where it is Marc.....yes, that means the democrats were part of the mess as were the republicans. Keep it real, dude.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
That's much closer to the truth than what we currently hear from the right, including many self-proclaimed Tea-party people/supporters.
They've kinda admitted it with their "Obama made it worse" meme, but that's still not the truth.
Bush and his cronies wrecked the economy so bad it will take a lot more than just Obama and/or 4 years to properly repair it.
This is why I can't and won't take tea-party people seriously. Not the ones who constantly put out the message that Obama made all things bad all of a sudden, which just happens to be just about all of them.
The right will always spin and twist and attempt to wiggle their way out of responsibility, just like they did when they absolutely abandoned Bush after staunchly supporting him for 7 years straight.
This isn't the party that Reagan would recognize, although it is the party that Reagan created.
It took both parties to get the economy where it is Marc.....yes, that means the democrats were part of the mess as were the republicans. Keep it real, dude.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
Bullshit and apple butter. We've been over-spending for a few generations now.
Tax cuts USUALLY result in greater collected revenues. It worked out that way when Kennedy cut taxes, when Reagan cut taxes AND when Bush cut taxes.
The republicans had a chance when they controlled the WH & Congress & they blew it. Obama & the dems have made things worse.
It's time to act fiscally responsible, like yesterday.
Our best fiscal decisions came from the geeky John Kasich (R-OH) during the Clinton administration.
The republican congresses created surpluses (for which WJ Clinton received undue credit).
It's past time we spent LESS than we take in & apply the surplus to the nation debt (something nobody ever talks about)
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
Bullshit and apple butter. We've been over-spending for a few generations now.
Tax cuts USUALLY result in greater collected revenues. It worked out that way when Kennedy cut taxes, when Reagan cut taxes AND when Bush cut taxes.
The republicans had a chance when they controlled the WH & Congress & they blew it. Obama & the dems have made things worse.
It's time to act fiscally responsible, like yesterday.
Our best fiscal decisions came from the geeky John Kasich (R-OH) during the Clinton administration.
The republican congresses created surpluses (for which WJ Clinton received undue credit).
It's past time we spent LESS than we take in & apply the surplus to the nation debt (something nobody ever talks about)
Could you provide us verified proof of your claim?
It took both parties to get the economy where it is Marc.....yes, that means the democrats were part of the mess as were the republicans. Keep it real, dude.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
So its Bush's fault that Obama has continued many of his failed policies?
TARP
Auto-bailouts
Bush-era tax rates
Rampant defense spending
Increased foreign commitments (Afghanistan in particular)
Obama loyalism is antithetical even to liberal principles.
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
How the heck can you expect to lower taxes while spending like a madman on unnecessary wars?
I blame the Democrats for not having the spine to challenge the administration, they were too afraid of the political fall-out. You remember the "if you're not with us you're against us" atmosphere at the moment.
The Dems folded like I don't know what under that pressure.
They certainly were not championing it, they just sanctioned it... reluctantly.
Bullshit and apple butter. We've been over-spending for a few generations now.
Tax cuts USUALLY result in greater collected revenues. It worked out that way when Kennedy cut taxes, when Reagan cut taxes AND when Bush cut taxes.
"If there's one thing that economists agree on, it's that these claims are false. We're not talking just ivory-tower lefties. Virtually every economics Ph.D. who has worked in a prominent role in the Bush Administration acknowledges that the tax cuts enacted during the past six years have not paid for themselves--and were never intended to. Harvard professor Greg Mankiw, chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisers from 2003 to 2005, even devotes a section of his best-selling economics textbook to debunking the claim that tax cuts increase revenues."
Relax partisan, my OP does not negate that both parties are responsible, however, the BRUNT of it lays squarely at Bush's feet.
So its Bush's fault that Obama has continued many of his failed policies?
TARP
Auto-bailouts
Bush-era tax rates
Rampant defense spending
Increased foreign commitments (Afghanistan in particular)
Obama loyalism is antithetical even to liberal principles.
You might have a point if some of this was within Obamas power to change.
Paulson designed TARP not Obama.
The auto bailouts worked.
We got Osama and everyone knows this had to be done.
As any war scholor will tell you its much less easier to start war than to stop it.
How is the Iraq war right now?
Being in the middle is not always where the facts are.
