Bronze and Silver Obamacare Program are GARBAGE - Liberals let’s not forget this.

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    No, I wouldn't. I'd do whatever I could to help out. Wouldn't you?
     
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    Sure all states do offer something as good as yours if one is under a certain percentage of federal poverty level. I had more than ever this year with 0 premium, 0 deductible and $1 or $2 co-pay to primary doc and $5 to a specialist. All on exchange policies bronze ended up being zero premium after they used their tax credit towards those plans.
     
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    It also varies very much on percentage of federal poverty level.
     
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    Hmmm - my plan is unsubsidized - Don't qualify - Is that what you mean?
     
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    Dear LoneLaugher and debbiedowner
    Thanks for your posts that are very informative.
    But this reminds me of FEMA recipients who are only getting a fraction of what they need to rebuild or repair their homes.
    A "partial payment" means they can't afford to get the work done.
    You can't afford part of a procedure, so you don't get help at all.
    You get stuck.

    If you two look at the miserable rates of processing claims
    and getting any service from federal govt, when this is only about 1/3 of the populations in concentrated areas, in 3 states roughly (Texas LA and FL) plus PR,
    what makes you think the federal govt can handle
    and process health care claims for 300 million people
    across 50 states. We can't even manage claims for
    a small fraction of that in 3 states, and people are suffering.

    This seems pretty solid proof of why we need to manage
    social service programs LOCALLY, I mean down to the
    DISTRICT level. That's what's happening in Houston where
    people are getting help by working within their COMMUNITIES
    so people know who has a VALID claim and real needs at what cost
    to reduce fraud and bureaucracy around claims that backlogs the system.

    Clearly this cannot be managed on FEDERAL levels.
    It has to be delegated to state then local levels to
    accommodate the needs of people, or it just takes so
    long PEOPLE GIVE UP.

    My friends who can't afford help and can't afford to wait
    in lines at the county hospital suffered worse health deterioriation.
    the backlog isn't working, and trying to CENTRALIZE it all
    through the FEDERAL govt is a BUREAUCRATIC NIGHTMARE.

    Wake up folks. The way we can expect to serve the whole population, with all the diverse needs and financial disparities, is to LOCALIZE IT.

    Not try to mandate one program fits all through federal govt.
    This is way too overwhelming and the FEMA response to
    3 hurricanes hitting 3 major areas pretty much proves the limits on that
    approach. The mega funds that raised millions of dollars, from Red Cross to the JJ Watts fund, still couldn't reach all the people in need on a grassroots level. So the whole system should have been managed from the grassroots UP not the top down for the people in need to get help on their level.

    Could this be made any more clear???
     
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    Well, shit man you got a hell of a deal if you're not receiving a subsidy. It looked like you were receiving cost share reductions.
     
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    the government isn't processing your health care claims the respective insurance companies are.

    Yes, I have dealt with FEMA in the past and it's no picnic.
     
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    Just because it is subsidized does not mean it is cheap or a good deal overall.

    It appears you benefit from the wealth re-distribution policies of Obama.
     
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    But the subsidies at least ensure that insurance company profits are "covered".
     
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    True, but lest there be a misunderstanding - When Trump says that the insurance companies are getting fat with subsidies, he's lying. Subsidies make it possible for those who receive them to afford a health insurance policy. IOW, they directly benefit the enrollee - not the insurance company.
     

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