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Either fight to win or bring them home.
Simple.
Either fight to win or bring them home.
Simple.
The article is accurate... The men in Afghanistan are between the a rock and a hard place.
They face a determined insurgency; which has them pinned against an administration which threatens them with prison if they violate the Rules of Engagement which prevent them from firing upon the enemy that is firing upon them, until they receive permission to fire from their Chain of Command; what's more is that US air superiority is now nearly worthless; as it is now next to impossible to get air support... due to the enemy having successfully used the western media to report that US Air power is killig 'innocent' people.
The US should pull our forces from Afghanistan, until such time that either free elections remove the Leftist insurgency presently occupying American governance or failing that, other means effectively provide for same.
The fact is that US troops are being asked to do the impossible... they're trapped between a determined enemy and a duplicitous evil.
From my limited understanding of the remaining objectives - I'd say bring 'em home. It's possible that someone could convince that there are some very legitimate objectives remaining that we we can achieve, then I reserve the right to change my mind.
But the "inaction" of the POTUS is certainly not a problem. There has been no "dragging of feet" just repeated increases of support. More than 100% increase in nine months and suddenly - if he doesn't act on scuttlebutt rather than waiting for the formal request and the review - he's "dragging his feet"?????
Sorry gotta call bullshit on that.
I'm coming more and more to this same realization regarding what to do with the troops. The more I learn, the more I realize we lost our chance to pursue the real prime objectives. And I have no desire to go the way the Soviets did there, or reap the unintended consequences - again - down the road.
LMAO!So, you're saying that the surge had a "total lack of impact on the war in Iraq"?
Is that what you are saying?
Holy shit people!....We have Obama himself posting on this MB. He goes by the name of "Shogun"
LMAO!
Seriously, pull your head out of your obviously ignorant ass!
Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying.
and, in 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months etc... when your kind is STILL at it trying to drape yourself in a bloody flag, we will STILL be in Iraq under the same baseless circumstances.
Wanna bet? I'll bet the sum total of all my rep vs yours that we'll STILL be no where close to wrapping up Iraq despite that surge. So, when you get done wiping your pussy come take my bet.
That's all you got lil' man, BETTING REPS?
You're good at talking shit on a MB. Guarantee you wouldn't talk that shit to my face.
Now, I was there. I saw the direct effects of the surge. I saw it as it was before the surge, and saw the results and direct effects of the surge.
Look, you're a partisan hack. Nothing more.
You ask for solutions, all while offering up none of your own.
Why is that?
Because you're clueless.
Is SHOGUN one of those candyass Polanski sympathizers?ROFL...
Now understand what the inhouse advocate of ADULT/CHILD SEX has said here... Advance any solution ya like, except that of the opposition...
It should be noted that this idiot has yet to offer up a viable solution; and this despite her demands that such needs to be done to be considered, BY HER, as a viable participant in the debate.
LOL... LEFTISTS.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit!
Oh she's a major advocatmong other of faggery among other feminizing proclivities.
She outed herself, to me; when she was responding to a post wherein the OP asserted that homosexuality is directly tied to pedophilia.
Having been through this argument 10,000 times I set her up to inform the board of all of the cultures which prospered on their having normalized homosexuality; where she bit hard sourced a book wherein the author spoke specifically to the Samurai Culture's pedophilic essence; she of course preferred to speak to the overt pursuit of pre-pubecsent or barely post pubescent boys for sexual relations by that perverse culture, as 'mentoring'... but it didn't pass for such by myself or any other non-idiot.
She's a pencil-neck little cock polisher, whose one malt liquor short of having to register with the local cops as a pedophile... It's only a matter of time before she departs the barely legal to the illegal to satisfy her twisted 'needs' and that'll be that for a while.
So, you're saying that the surge had a "total lack of impact on the war in Iraq"?
Is that what you are saying?
Holy shit people!....We have Obama himself posting on this MB. He goes by the name of "Shogun"
LMAO!
Seriously, pull your head out of your obviously ignorant ass!
Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying.
and, in 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months etc... when your kind is STILL at it trying to drape yourself in a bloody flag, we will STILL be in Iraq under the same baseless circumstances.
Wanna bet? I'll bet the sum total of all my rep vs yours that we'll STILL be no where close to wrapping up Iraq despite that surge. So, when you get done wiping your pussy come take my bet.
Pssst... there are precisely ZERO combat operations being lead by US troops in Iraq... and haven't been ANY since LONG BEFORE BUSH LEFT OFFICE.
The US is presently in a supporting role in Iraq... TRAINING Iraqi military and police forces.
So, as it stands, the US has wrapped up combat operations in Iraq has had done so, for nearly two years now.
The chances that Al qaeda is going to roll over the Iraqi government stand at roughly the same odds that Britain is going to roll over the US; which is to say the odds are now a mathematical certainty that it will not and that it cannot; which is to say that the US mission in Iraq is an unqualified success... 100%.
Hussein Socialist government (Iraqi, not US) is long gone...
Iraq is governed by a freely elected government which operates on a constitution which that government created...
Iraq now has a sustainable government; a sustainable military, a sound law enforcement infrastructure... and the US is not engaged in combat operations anywhere in Iraq.
Sweet fail CHILD FUCKER!
S/he cannot focus on the actual topic and the desperation to change it from the ugliness that it apparently is, is pathetic.
Hate to break it to ya, hook, but there are more facets to this gem than looking for any way to blame Obama. Again, I DARE you to post a solution outside of regurgitating the standard issue gop talking points issued this deep into a democratic presidency. I bet you can't.
ROFL...
Now understand what the inhouse advocate of ADULT/CHILD SEX has said here... Advance any solution ya like, except that of the opposition...
It should be noted that this idiot has yet to offer up a viable solution; and this despite her demands that such needs to be done to be considered, BY HER, as a viable participant in the debate.
LOL... LEFTISTS.
The article is accurate... The men in Afghanistan are between the a rock and a hard place.
They face a determined insurgency; which has them pinned against an administration which threatens them with prison if they violate the Rules of Engagement which prevent them from firing upon the enemy that is firing upon them, until they receive permission to fire from their Chain of Command; what's more is that US air superiority is now nearly worthless; as it is now next to impossible to get air support... due to the enemy having successfully used the western media to report that US Air power is killig 'innocent' people.
The US should pull our forces from Afghanistan, until such time that either free elections remove the Leftist insurgency presently occupying American governance or failing that, other means effectively provide for same.
The fact is that US troops are being asked to do the impossible... they're trapped between a determined enemy and a duplicitous evil.
ROFLMNAO...Hate to break it to ya, hook, but there are more facets to this gem than looking for any way to blame Obama. Again, I DARE you to post a solution outside of regurgitating the standard issue gop talking points issued this deep into a democratic presidency. I bet you can't.
ROFL...
Now understand what the inhouse advocate of ADULT/CHILD SEX has said here... Advance any solution ya like, except that of the opposition...
It should be noted that this idiot has yet to offer up a viable solution; and this despite her demands that such needs to be done to be considered, BY HER, as a viable participant in the debate.
LOL... LEFTISTS.
I've posted my solution to the iraq war already. Go dig it up. that is, if you can keep your lips from wrapping around a bratwurst like a hooker on date night, you fucking farce.