Breastfeeding= Nanny State

[mudwhistle]

Breast pumps are considered "Durable Medical Equipment" and are typically covered by your health insurance plan if prescribed by your doctor.


LOTS of things are considered DME and covered by insurance all the time...
Medical Supplies - Durable Medical Equipment - DME Supply Group -

lol...latex gloves! Let us watch the rightwing meltdown over that item.

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

 

[Valerie]

lol...latex gloves! Let us watch the rightwing meltdown over that item.

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

If you read the info I posted you can see that it is considered medically beneficial to the baby to be breast fed for at least six and ideally up to twelve months or beyond. The breast pump helps make that happen and it has nothing to do with laziness at all.

I applaud this tax deduction qualification as a medical expense as it does not add an expense to the tax payer but decreases the taxable income of the tax payer by the amount of the necessary expense.

 

[shintao]

lol...latex gloves! Let us watch the rightwing meltdown over that item.

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

Yes, we should cut the military budget by 98% and bring all of our troops home to balance the budget and lower our taxes.

What is not being mentioned here is what will it cost America to do this minor thing for women? Why couldn't we have a check off on the IRS form to donate $5.00 to the cause. I wish we had a page of worthy donations we could check off, like breast & colon cancer, or homeless, etc. Of course that would mean bigger government.

 

[mudwhistle]

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

If you read the info I posted you can see that it is considered medically beneficial to the baby to be breast fed for at least six and ideally up to twelve months or beyond. The breast pump helps make that happen and it has nothing to do with laziness at all.

I applaud this tax deduction qualification as a medical expense as it does not add an expense to the tax payer but decreases the taxable income of the tax payer by the amount of the necessary expense.

So to pay for this fuzzy feel-good deduction I lose something else.

This is a bribe, plain and simple.

Problem is this crumb he's throwing to you will only result in tax increases elsewhere.

 

[Valerie]

Also, keep in mind that many people don't even claim itemized deductions on Schedule A because the total amount is less than the standard deduction we all get by default.

Standard Deduction

The standard deduction is a dollar amount that reduces the amount of income subject to tax. You cannot take the standard deduction if you are claiming itemized deductions.





2010 Standard Deduction Amounts

Filing Status - Deduction Amount

Single or Married filing separately = $5,700

Married filing jointly or Qualifying widow(er) with dependent child = $11,400

Head of household = $8,400

1040.com - Standard Deduction

 

[DiveCon]

You have to understand

If the Government throws money at business ...it is CAPITALISM
If the Government throws money at the people....it is SOCIALISM

You have to understand

They shouldn't be throwing money at anyone. That's not their job.

A modern Governments job is to do what is best for the country. It is the people who are the country. Allowing throwaway people and a strict survival of the fittest society is not in the best interests of the country.

throwaway people?
you mean like all those aborted babies?

 

[mudwhistle]

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

Yes, we should cut the military budget by 98% and bring all of our troops home to balance the budget and lower our taxes.

What is not being mentioned here is what will it cost America to do this minor thing for women? Why couldn't we have a check off on the IRS form to donate $5.00 to the cause. I wish we had a page of worthy donations we could check off, like breast & colon cancer, or homeless, etc. Of course that would mean bigger government.

Yes, it's but a pittance. So are the other thousands of givaways these liberals throw at the ignorant masses. They tend to add up sadly. I get tired of the same people that bitch about Bush's spending asking for more and more spending.

Also, great idea. The world is on fire. Now is the perfect time to dissolve the military and throw out the welcome mat for the conquering hords to hit our shores soon after.

 

[Valerie]

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

If you read the info I posted you can see that it is considered medically beneficial to the baby to be breast fed for at least six and ideally up to twelve months or beyond. The breast pump helps make that happen and it has nothing to do with laziness at all.

I applaud this tax deduction qualification as a medical expense as it does not add an expense to the tax payer but decreases the taxable income of the tax payer by the amount of the necessary expense.

So to pay for this fuzzy feel-good deduction I lose something else.

This is a bribe, plain and simple.

Problem is this crumb he's throwing to you will only result in tax increases elsewhere.

Not at all. Michelle Bachman got you all riled up over nothing.


"To think that government has to go out and buy my breast pump. ... That's the new definition of a nanny state."


Talk about ignorant.......



The government is not buying our breast pumps any more than it's paying the interest on our mortgages or paying for our dental work or our other medical expenses, etc...It amounts to a teensy TAX BREAK for American families.





FYI - Tax deductions have been around for a little while before Obama was ever around.

There are a number of allowable deductions:

* Medical expenses, to the extent that the expenses exceed 7.5% of the taxpayer's AGI. (e.g., a taxpayer with an AGI of $20,000 and medical expenses of $5,000 would be eligible to deduct $3500 of their medical expenses ( 20,000 X .075 = 1500; 5000 - 1500 = 3500 ).) The 7.5% floor means that most taxpayers are unable to take advantage of the medical expense deduction. Allowable medical expenses include:
o Payments to doctors, dentists, surgeons, chiropractors, psychologists, counselors, physical therapists, osteopaths, podiatrists, home health care nurses, cost of care for chronic cognitive impairment
o Premiums for medical insurance (but not if paid by another, or with pre-tax money)
o Premiums for qualifying long-term-care insurance, depending on the taxpayer's age
o Payments for prescription drugs and insulin
o Payments for devices needed to treat or compensate for a medical condition (crutches, wheelchairs, prescription eyeglasses, hearing aids)
o Mileage for travel to and from doctors and medical treatment
o Necessary travel expenses
o Non-deductible medical expenses include:
+ Over-the-counter medications
+ Health club memberships (to improve general health & fitness)
+ Cosmetic surgery (except to restore normal appearance after an injury or to treat a genetic deformity)
* State and local taxes paid, including:
o Income taxes (or, alternatively, state and local general sales taxes[2])
o Property taxes (assessed by reference to the value of the property)
o but not including:
+ Use taxes
+ Excise taxes
+ Fines or penalties
* Mortgage interest expense on debt incurred in connection with up to two homes, subject to limits (up to $1,000,000 in purchase debt, or $100,000 in home equity loans)
o also, points paid to discount the interest rate on up to two homes; points paid upon acquisition are immediately deductible, but points paid on a refinance must be amortized (deducted in equal parts over the lifetime of the loan)
o also private mortgage insurance premiums through 2010
* Investment interest, up to the amount of income reported from investments (the balance is deferred until more investment income is declared)
* Charitable contributions to allowable recipients; this deduction is limited to either 30% or 50% of AGI, depending on the characterization of the recipient. Donations can be made as money, or in the form of goods. The value of donated services cannot be deducted as a contribution. Reasonable expenses necessary to provide donated services can, however, be deducted (such as mileage, special uniforms, or meals). Non-cash donations valued at more than $500 require special substantiation on a separate form. Non-cash donations are deductible at the lesser of the donor's cost or the current fair market value. Eligible recipients for charitable contributions include:
o Churches, synagogues, mosques, other houses of worship
o Federal, state, or local government entities
o Fraternal or veterans' organizations
o Non-eligible recipients include:
+ Individuals
+ Political campaigns or political action committees (PACs)
* Casualty and theft losses, to the extent that they exceed 10% of the taxpayer's AGI (in aggregate), and $100 (per event, $500 starting tax year 2009)
* Gambling losses, but only to the extent of gambling income (For example, a person who wins $1,000 in various gambling activities during the tax year and loses $800 in other gambling activities can deduct the $800 in losses, resulting in net gambling income of $200. By contrast, a person who wins $3,000 in various gambling activities during the year and loses $3,500 in other gambling activities in that year can deduct only $3,000 of the losses against the $3,000 in income, resulting in a break-even gambling activity for tax purposes for that year -- with no deduction for the remaining $500 excess loss.)

Itemized deduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mudwhistle]

If you read the info I posted you can see that it is considered medically beneficial to the baby to be breast fed for at least six and ideally up to twelve months or beyond. The breast pump helps make that happen and it has nothing to do with laziness at all.

I applaud this tax deduction qualification as a medical expense as it does not add an expense to the tax payer but decreases the taxable income of the tax payer by the amount of the necessary expense.

So to pay for this fuzzy feel-good deduction I lose something else.

This is a bribe, plain and simple.

Problem is this crumb he's throwing to you will only result in tax increases elsewhere.

Not at all. Michelle Bachman got you all riled up over nothing.


"To think that government has to go out and buy my breast pump. ... That's the new definition of a nanny state."


Talk about ignorant.......



The government is not buying our breast pumps any more than it's paying the interest on our mortgages or paying for our dental work or our other medical expenses, etc...It amounts to a teensy TAX BREAK for American families.





FYI - Tax deductions have been around for a little while before Obama was ever around.

There are a number of allowable deductions:

* Medical expenses, to the extent that the expenses exceed 7.5% of the taxpayer's AGI. (e.g., a taxpayer with an AGI of $20,000 and medical expenses of $5,000 would be eligible to deduct $3500 of their medical expenses ( 20,000 X .075 = 1500; 5000 - 1500 = 3500 ).) The 7.5% floor means that most taxpayers are unable to take advantage of the medical expense deduction. Allowable medical expenses include:
o Payments to doctors, dentists, surgeons, chiropractors, psychologists, counselors, physical therapists, osteopaths, podiatrists, home health care nurses, cost of care for chronic cognitive impairment
o Premiums for medical insurance (but not if paid by another, or with pre-tax money)
o Premiums for qualifying long-term-care insurance, depending on the taxpayer's age
o Payments for prescription drugs and insulin
o Payments for devices needed to treat or compensate for a medical condition (crutches, wheelchairs, prescription eyeglasses, hearing aids)
o Mileage for travel to and from doctors and medical treatment
o Necessary travel expenses
o Non-deductible medical expenses include:
+ Over-the-counter medications
+ Health club memberships (to improve general health & fitness)
+ Cosmetic surgery (except to restore normal appearance after an injury or to treat a genetic deformity)
* State and local taxes paid, including:
o Income taxes (or, alternatively, state and local general sales taxes[2])
o Property taxes (assessed by reference to the value of the property)
o but not including:
+ Use taxes
+ Excise taxes
+ Fines or penalties
* Mortgage interest expense on debt incurred in connection with up to two homes, subject to limits (up to $1,000,000 in purchase debt, or $100,000 in home equity loans)
o also, points paid to discount the interest rate on up to two homes; points paid upon acquisition are immediately deductible, but points paid on a refinance must be amortized (deducted in equal parts over the lifetime of the loan)
o also private mortgage insurance premiums through 2010
* Investment interest, up to the amount of income reported from investments (the balance is deferred until more investment income is declared)
* Charitable contributions to allowable recipients; this deduction is limited to either 30% or 50% of AGI, depending on the characterization of the recipient. Donations can be made as money, or in the form of goods. The value of donated services cannot be deducted as a contribution. Reasonable expenses necessary to provide donated services can, however, be deducted (such as mileage, special uniforms, or meals). Non-cash donations valued at more than $500 require special substantiation on a separate form. Non-cash donations are deductible at the lesser of the donor's cost or the current fair market value. Eligible recipients for charitable contributions include:
o Churches, synagogues, mosques, other houses of worship
o Federal, state, or local government entities
o Fraternal or veterans' organizations
o Non-eligible recipients include:
+ Individuals
+ Political campaigns or political action committees (PACs)
* Casualty and theft losses, to the extent that they exceed 10% of the taxpayer's AGI (in aggregate), and $100 (per event, $500 starting tax year 2009)
* Gambling losses, but only to the extent of gambling income (For example, a person who wins $1,000 in various gambling activities during the tax year and loses $800 in other gambling activities can deduct the $800 in losses, resulting in net gambling income of $200. By contrast, a person who wins $3,000 in various gambling activities during the year and loses $3,500 in other gambling activities in that year can deduct only $3,000 of the losses against the $3,000 in income, resulting in a break-even gambling activity for tax purposes for that year -- with no deduction for the remaining $500 excess loss.)

Itemized deduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I went to tax-preparer school.

I know that any time you give someone a tax-break when you're deficit spending you have to off-set it with tax-increases elsewhere. Money doesn't grow on trees. Funny thing is most won't even qualify for the deduction.

Oh, Btw, I never heard Bachman's speech in the first place, so this has nothing to do with what she may or may not have said.

 

[mudwhistle]

I'll tell you what.

Why don't we pay off our debts and get to the point where we aren't paying $1.1 billion in interest per day to our debtors, then we can write off all of the breast-pumps and peter-pumps you want.

Okay???

 

[Gadawg73]

lol...latex gloves! Let us watch the rightwing meltdown over that item.

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

As a conservative I also want to do away with a mortgage interest deduction.
What you borrow on your house is NOT THE BUSINESS of government.
If it is not a legitimate business expense there should be no deductions.
Conservatives save and invest and frown on borrowing if they do not have to.

 

[AllieBaba]

Thank you, gadawg, for telling us what we are.

 

[mudwhistle]

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

As a conservative I also want to do away with a mortgage interest deduction.
What you borrow on your house is NOT THE BUSINESS of government.
If it is not a legitimate business expense there should be no deductions.
Conservatives save and invest and frown on borrowing if they do not have to.

I haven't written mine off in years. Now if they go after my business property I'm gonna kill someone.

 

[Valerie]

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

As a conservative I also want to do away with a mortgage interest deduction.
What you borrow on your house is NOT THE BUSINESS of government.
If it is not a legitimate business expense there should be no deductions.
Conservatives save and invest and frown on borrowing if they do not have to.

I haven't written mine off in years. Now if they go after my business property I'm gonna kill someone.

Really? You went to tax preparers school and you actually chose to not deduct your mortgage interest on your taxes? Why?


You guys are just kidding right?

 

[Ravi]

I'll tell you what.

Why don't we pay off our debts and get to the point where we aren't paying $1.1 billion in interest per day to our debtors, then we can write off all of the breast-pumps and peter-pumps you want.

Okay???

Okay, you start. Don't write anything off this year when you do your tax return.

 

[Ravi]

If you have DME coverage as part of your health insurance policy, you still need to have a medical condition which requires such equipment as prescribed by your doctor.



A breast pump is prescribed routinely for nursing mothers and people have different levels of insurance coverage with deductibles and out of pocket expenses...

Not sure why some think it's a bad thing for American families to able to deduct these medical costs from their taxable income...???

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

As a conservative I also want to do away with a mortgage interest deduction.
What you borrow on your house is NOT THE BUSINESS of government.
If it is not a legitimate business expense there should be no deductions.
Conservatives save and invest and frown on borrowing if they do not have to.

Why is a business expense more important than a non-business expense?

 

[sparky]

dibs Bachman was breast fed from across the room....

 

[shintao]

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

Yes, we should cut the military budget by 98% and bring all of our troops home to balance the budget and lower our taxes.

What is not being mentioned here is what will it cost America to do this minor thing for women? Why couldn't we have a check off on the IRS form to donate $5.00 to the cause. I wish we had a page of worthy donations we could check off, like breast & colon cancer, or homeless, etc. Of course that would mean bigger government.

Yes, it's but a pittance. So are the other thousands of givaways these liberals throw at the ignorant masses. They tend to add up sadly. I get tired of the same people that bitch about Bush's spending asking for more and more spending.

Also, great idea. The world is on fire. Now is the perfect time to dissolve the military and throw out the welcome mat for the conquering hords to hit our shores soon after.

Ahh, one of the afraid, worried & paranoid rightwing crowd. So if they are going to hit our shores, shouldn't all the US Troops be home to defend it? Your argument is illogical.

 

[AllieBaba]

Shittoo, pay attention. Yes, they could cower here and deal with attacks after they happen...or they can be distributed far and wide to protect the interests of Americans and others everywhere, and prevent pigs from making it here.

 

[Gadawg73]

Unless you need the pump for a medical condition using a perscription I don't think it's gonna fly.

For christ sake, obama wants to take away our mortgage deductions. Do you think we can afford another added expense to the taxpayer? Somebody has to pay for all of these benefits.

As a conservative I also want to do away with a mortgage interest deduction.
What you borrow on your house is NOT THE BUSINESS of government.
If it is not a legitimate business expense there should be no deductions.
Conservatives save and invest and frown on borrowing if they do not have to.

Why is a business expense more important than a non-business expense?

Wages are a business expense. Are wages more important than interest deduction?
Mortgage interest deduction is a special interest lobbied freebie.