Breaking: NASA ranks 2017 as the second-warmest year, after 2016

[Old Rocks]

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar. It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies. Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel. Combined with grid scale storage, renewables are the future, no matter how much that distresses you.

What a ridiculous statement. They can't be cheaper you boob because you have to maintain a fossil fueled powerplant online to provide power when they invariably fail.

Not only cannot you do simple math, you cannot read. The windmills and a Tesla 100 MW battery kept the grid from going down in Australia when a coal fired plant dropped offline. And I stated renewables in combination with grid scale batteries.

Tesla megabattery saves grid from generator failure? - Enterprise Times

Only commissioned on December 1st, a Tesla megabattery (the Hornsdale facility) ‘stepped in’ to balance the grid – reacting in 70ms and beating by far the contracted 6 second response time from another power plant. Though ‘unexpected’, the value of battery support for electric grid operations has again demonstrated itself.

Last week the Loy Yang power station tripped without warning early in the morning. This produced an immediate loss to the grid of 560MW. In turn this produced a network frequency slump (it fell below 49.80Mhz). What happened next startled electricity industry professionals. The implications for grids in the future are only starting to seep in.

The failure
The Loy Yang A 3 power station is a brown coal power station located in Victoria, about 150 Kms east of Melbourne. It tripped without warning at 1.59AM.

Such events occur. But network frequency drops, beyond certain parameters, can damage equipment, especially customer equipment. To minimise any impact, electricity and/or network operators contract for emergency input to the network to restore the grid frequency.

In this case another coal powered generator – the Gladstone Power Station (some 2000Kms away in Queensland) possessed the contract to respond and deliver FCAS (Frequency Control and Ancillary Services). The contracted response time was a ‘normal’ six seconds.

Yeah, that tesla battery can operate for ONE HOUR. What they did was basically a propaganda demonstration.

In this case, the battery was not designed to carry the grid for more than that. The important thing that it does is smooth out the variable power from the windmills. The response time was an unexpected bonus, and saved the utility an estimated one and one half million dollars. And since that time, it has happened one more time. So that battery has earned 3 million dollars since 1Dec17. Now there is a Tesla battery that is carrying a nearly full grid load;

Tesla's solar and battery project in Hawaii: we do the math

Tesla has contracted with the Kauai Island Utility Cooperative to provide up to 52 MWh of electricity to the grid every evening. The utility has agreed to pay a flat rate of 13.9 cents/kWh for this stored sunlight, about a 10-percent discount to the price they pay for power from diesel generators.

(The island will still need to burn diesel during peak electricity periods - it just won't need to burn as much. Plus, it’s occasionally cloudy and rainy, even in Hawaii.)

CHECK OUT: Tesla, SolarCity, and Ta'u: sun, storage batteries, clean energy (video) (Nov 2016)

As for why Tesla can’t sell electricity directly to the grid during the day, Kauai’s grid simply can’t absorb any more solar: at midday, photovoltaics can already produce upwards of 90 percent of the island’s needs.

Yes, imagine that. They install more solar modules than are needed to insure they can continue to produce power, AND they are covering an area the size of Vatican City to do so....and, they still have to have diesel generators for when it rains. But, overall, I think it's a good experiment to see how good the system works.

And if it works very well, and it will, they can scale it up, and scrap the diesel generators. A model for the whole of continental America.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

^ 2 decade pause

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And yet it “stayed warm” long before the industrial revolution which means it’s perfectly natural.

Not necessarily. The spikes in temperature rises were not just up down. The first one 400,000 years ago was up, up a bit, up a bit, hit a peak, then down. The peaks are lasting a certain period of time, not always equal. But where you see a peak maybe 10,000 years ago, and then a drop, and then going up a bit and down a bit suggests that the downward spiral was on.

It's possible that during this drop we're going through a natural rise. I'm not going to say for certain that something should be happening. You might be right or you might be wrong about that.

The issue here is one of other stuff. Simple "It's getting warms" or "it's getting cooler" isn't the issue here.

This is the issue, we don't know the impact of what we're doing on the planet.

Mao decided that the pesky birds were eating the crops. So he had Chinese peasants go and kill the birds. What happened? The insects became prominent and ate MORE of the crops. He couldn't see what would be the cause of what he was doing. The same stands for us on pollution levels.

The first worrying thing is that the oceans are changing rapidly due to taking in more CO2. In the past this probably happened also, but probably not so quickly. Sea life could probably adapt OVER TIME, but maybe not over a shorter period of time. If the ocean life dies, the oceans will not only stop taking in more CO2, they'll start RELEASING CO2 into the atmosphere. That alone could be catastrophic, if it were to happen.

Will it happen? We don't know.

If you just off a cliff, will you land in the sea and swim to safety or hit the rocks and die? Would you take the chance on jumping without knowing it was safe?

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

The Arctic number skews the averages. They must over weigh Greenland

 

[skookerasbil]

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Actually s0n, no defense mechanism needed. Our side is winning......and the evidence is staggering.

What about your side?

Every other month, some organization like NASA or the IPCC puts out a "second hottest ever........." alert, but people are not caring a wit.

Please show us where, in the real world, this is anything more than a billboard announcement?


There have been scores of threads like this posted in here over the years, which has led to exactly what in terms of public policy? I can give you the answer.........it hasn't led to dick.

 

[skookerasbil]

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

4) the Earth has been warming for the last 12,000 years already.

Liar.

Earth’s obliquity and temperature over the last 20,000 years

Impressive schematic.........until you look closely at the dotted line which is fake. Look where the MWP line is and where the line is as of 2000CE = fake data. Fiddling with proxy temperatures = . C'mon now...........


Documenting the Global Extent of the Medieval Warm Period

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just love threads like this after I cleaned another 6 inches of global warming off my car. My grandkids have been out of school for a week and a half because the snow won't melt off of the roads and last night it was 3 degrees with a wind chill of about -10.

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

When it's warmer that usual, that's climate.
When it's colder than usual, that's weather.

Quick, give government $2 trillion to waste on windmills.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar. It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies. Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel. Combined with grid scale storage, renewables are the future, no matter how much that distresses you.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar.

No more "green energy" subsidies?

It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies.

How much are they spending because solar and wind is groovy? How much because of mandates?

Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel.

Baloney.

https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine...nergy-costs-wind-energy-costs-LCOE-Lazard.png

And wind and solar continue to come down in price, even as fossil fuels and nuclear continue to go up in price.

Yeah, phony numbers for equipment that only produces 30% of the time is very convincing.
Where do they add in the cost for idling a natgas plant nearby for when the wind slows or when clouds cover the sun?

 

[bripat9643]

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

4) the Earth has been warming for the last 12,000 years already.

Liar.

Earth’s obliquity and temperature over the last 20,000 years

Impressive schematic.........until you look closely at the dotted line which is fake. Look where the MWP line is and where the line is as of 2000CE = fake data. Fiddling with proxy temperatures = . C'mon now...........


Documenting the Global Extent of the Medieval Warm Period

The Hockey Stick graph also looked fairly impressive until you learned the mathematics behind it was totally bogus.

 

[bripat9643]

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

When it's warmer that usual, that's climate.
When it's colder than usual, that's weather.

Quick, give government $2 trillion to waste on windmills.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar. It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies. Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel. Combined with grid scale storage, renewables are the future, no matter how much that distresses you.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar.

No more "green energy" subsidies?

It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies.

How much are they spending because solar and wind is groovy? How much because of mandates?

Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel.

Baloney.

https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine...nergy-costs-wind-energy-costs-LCOE-Lazard.png

And wind and solar continue to come down in price, even as fossil fuels and nuclear continue to go up in price.

Yeah, phony numbers for equipment that only produces 30% of the time is very convincing.
Where do they add in the cost for idling a natgas plant nearby for when the wind slows or when clouds cover the sun?

They don't. And they also don't include the capital and maintenance cost of the equipment. Those acres of mirrors have to be clean on a regular basis.

 

[theHawk]

And yet it “stayed warm” long before the industrial revolution which means it’s perfectly natural.

Not necessarily. The spikes in temperature rises were not just up down. The first one 400,000 years ago was up, up a bit, up a bit, hit a peak, then down. The peaks are lasting a certain period of time, not always equal. But where you see a peak maybe 10,000 years ago, and then a drop, and then going up a bit and down a bit suggests that the downward spiral was on.

It's possible that during this drop we're going through a natural rise. I'm not going to say for certain that something should be happening. You might be right or you might be wrong about that.

The issue here is one of other stuff. Simple "It's getting warms" or "it's getting cooler" isn't the issue here.

This is the issue, we don't know the impact of what we're doing on the planet.

Mao decided that the pesky birds were eating the crops. So he had Chinese peasants go and kill the birds. What happened? The insects became prominent and ate MORE of the crops. He couldn't see what would be the cause of what he was doing. The same stands for us on pollution levels.

The first worrying thing is that the oceans are changing rapidly due to taking in more CO2. In the past this probably happened also, but probably not so quickly. Sea life could probably adapt OVER TIME, but maybe not over a shorter period of time. If the ocean life dies, the oceans will not only stop taking in more CO2, they'll start RELEASING CO2 into the atmosphere. That alone could be catastrophic, if it were to happen.

Will it happen? We don't know.

If you just off a cliff, will you land in the sea and swim to safety or hit the rocks and die? Would you take the chance on jumping without knowing it was safe?

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

When it's warmer that usual, that's climate.
When it's colder than usual, that's weather.

Quick, give government $2 trillion to waste on windmills.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar. It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies. Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel. Combined with grid scale storage, renewables are the future, no matter how much that distresses you.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar.

No more "green energy" subsidies?

It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies.

How much are they spending because solar and wind is groovy? How much because of mandates?

Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel.

Baloney.

https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine...nergy-costs-wind-energy-costs-LCOE-Lazard.png

And wind and solar continue to come down in price, even as fossil fuels and nuclear continue to go up in price.

Yeah, phony numbers for equipment that only produces 30% of the time is very convincing.
Where do they add in the cost for idling a natgas plant nearby for when the wind slows or when clouds cover the sun?

They don't. And they also don't include the capital and maintenance cost of the equipment. Those acres of mirrors have to be clean on a regular basis.

Or they will just claim the wind does it...Mars

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not necessarily. The spikes in temperature rises were not just up down. The first one 400,000 years ago was up, up a bit, up a bit, hit a peak, then down. The peaks are lasting a certain period of time, not always equal. But where you see a peak maybe 10,000 years ago, and then a drop, and then going up a bit and down a bit suggests that the downward spiral was on.

It's possible that during this drop we're going through a natural rise. I'm not going to say for certain that something should be happening. You might be right or you might be wrong about that.

The issue here is one of other stuff. Simple "It's getting warms" or "it's getting cooler" isn't the issue here.

This is the issue, we don't know the impact of what we're doing on the planet.

Mao decided that the pesky birds were eating the crops. So he had Chinese peasants go and kill the birds. What happened? The insects became prominent and ate MORE of the crops. He couldn't see what would be the cause of what he was doing. The same stands for us on pollution levels.

The first worrying thing is that the oceans are changing rapidly due to taking in more CO2. In the past this probably happened also, but probably not so quickly. Sea life could probably adapt OVER TIME, but maybe not over a shorter period of time. If the ocean life dies, the oceans will not only stop taking in more CO2, they'll start RELEASING CO2 into the atmosphere. That alone could be catastrophic, if it were to happen.

Will it happen? We don't know.

If you just off a cliff, will you land in the sea and swim to safety or hit the rocks and die? Would you take the chance on jumping without knowing it was safe?

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

And remember, supposedly 90% of the excess heat is trapped - like a rat- in the ocean

 

[frigidweirdo]

Not necessarily. The spikes in temperature rises were not just up down. The first one 400,000 years ago was up, up a bit, up a bit, hit a peak, then down. The peaks are lasting a certain period of time, not always equal. But where you see a peak maybe 10,000 years ago, and then a drop, and then going up a bit and down a bit suggests that the downward spiral was on.

It's possible that during this drop we're going through a natural rise. I'm not going to say for certain that something should be happening. You might be right or you might be wrong about that.

The issue here is one of other stuff. Simple "It's getting warms" or "it's getting cooler" isn't the issue here.

This is the issue, we don't know the impact of what we're doing on the planet.

Mao decided that the pesky birds were eating the crops. So he had Chinese peasants go and kill the birds. What happened? The insects became prominent and ate MORE of the crops. He couldn't see what would be the cause of what he was doing. The same stands for us on pollution levels.

The first worrying thing is that the oceans are changing rapidly due to taking in more CO2. In the past this probably happened also, but probably not so quickly. Sea life could probably adapt OVER TIME, but maybe not over a shorter period of time. If the ocean life dies, the oceans will not only stop taking in more CO2, they'll start RELEASING CO2 into the atmosphere. That alone could be catastrophic, if it were to happen.

Will it happen? We don't know.

If you just off a cliff, will you land in the sea and swim to safety or hit the rocks and die? Would you take the chance on jumping without knowing it was safe?

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

Ah, trying to use simplicity to attack reality.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

Ah, trying to use simplicity to attack reality.

We already seen it but you wouldn't know...

 

[Old Rocks]

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

When it's warmer that usual, that's climate.
When it's colder than usual, that's weather.

Quick, give government $2 trillion to waste on windmills.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar. It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies. Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel. Combined with grid scale storage, renewables are the future, no matter how much that distresses you.

As you damned well know, it is not the government that will spend trillions of dollars on windmills and solar.

No more "green energy" subsidies?

It is the utility companies, with or without subsidies.

How much are they spending because solar and wind is groovy? How much because of mandates?

Because both wind and solar generate electricity cheaper than any fossil fuel.

Baloney.

https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine...nergy-costs-wind-energy-costs-LCOE-Lazard.png

And wind and solar continue to come down in price, even as fossil fuels and nuclear continue to go up in price.

Yeah, phony numbers for equipment that only produces 30% of the time is very convincing.
Where do they add in the cost for idling a natgas plant nearby for when the wind slows or when clouds cover the sun?

Are you just being stupid, or are purposely lying? That chart is the cost per MW/Hr produced, not nameplate potential. And as the gridscale storage, whether by batteries or other means, comes online, the renewables will even be cheaper. One of the primary costs today of renewables is that they often overproduce, so they are idled, and the potential electricity they could have produced at that time is wasted. With storage, that energy could be used when they are not producing enough. The solar system with Tesla battery backup on Maui is presently doing just that.

 

[Old Rocks]

Not necessarily. The spikes in temperature rises were not just up down. The first one 400,000 years ago was up, up a bit, up a bit, hit a peak, then down. The peaks are lasting a certain period of time, not always equal. But where you see a peak maybe 10,000 years ago, and then a drop, and then going up a bit and down a bit suggests that the downward spiral was on.

It's possible that during this drop we're going through a natural rise. I'm not going to say for certain that something should be happening. You might be right or you might be wrong about that.

The issue here is one of other stuff. Simple "It's getting warms" or "it's getting cooler" isn't the issue here.

This is the issue, we don't know the impact of what we're doing on the planet.

Mao decided that the pesky birds were eating the crops. So he had Chinese peasants go and kill the birds. What happened? The insects became prominent and ate MORE of the crops. He couldn't see what would be the cause of what he was doing. The same stands for us on pollution levels.

The first worrying thing is that the oceans are changing rapidly due to taking in more CO2. In the past this probably happened also, but probably not so quickly. Sea life could probably adapt OVER TIME, but maybe not over a shorter period of time. If the ocean life dies, the oceans will not only stop taking in more CO2, they'll start RELEASING CO2 into the atmosphere. That alone could be catastrophic, if it were to happen.

Will it happen? We don't know.

If you just off a cliff, will you land in the sea and swim to safety or hit the rocks and die? Would you take the chance on jumping without knowing it was safe?

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

Yes, you are correct. The geological record has a time about 250 million years ago when cold and heat killed 95% of all species then existing.

The Permo-Triassic (P-T) Extinction

 

[xband]

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

NASA don't know shit from shineola. I did projects for NASA more than once and they are stupider than hell. Pardon my French.

 

[theHawk]

You don't send the world into a depression either over unknown science .

^ this

It's not about saying the planet, its about controlling mankind

If globalists cared about the planet they would be punishing China for shitting all over the environment. Instead they are rewarded with manufacturing plants and trade deals that benefit the Chinese and rewards them for using slaves and dumping on the environment.

Even without El Niño.
There are several defense mechanisms conservatives may use in order to control the anger resulting from this news.
1) Rate the thread "funny"
2) Say that it's really cold in a region of a country, rather than in Earth as a whole.
3) Benghazi!

2017 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record. And That Was Without El Niño.

Let's see, what does the satellite data show? Hmmmm . . . . . . not su much . . . .

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2017_v6.jpg

Now why do you suppose that you used a graph a year old? Could it be that you did not want anyone to notice that we are now in a La Nina, yet the temps are still up in very high territory. And most of the world is warmer right now than it has been in the period of measurement.

Ah that’s cute Old Cucks, so the new year shows a tiny increase in temp. Still nothing compared to what it has been in the distant past.

Yes, you are correct. The geological record has a time about 250 million years ago when cold and heat killed 95% of all species then existing.

The Permo-Triassic (P-T) Extinction

Yup, and guess what? The earth still thrived after that.

All you got is fear mongering.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, Hawk, as dumb fucks go, you are among the dumbest. It took about six million years before the Earth could be called a thriving planet again. And it has a whole different suite of animals. Now as obtuse as many of the members of the species of naked apes are, I would like to see them have a chance to see what they could become in another hundred thousand years. No, we will not destroy the planet, but we can easily make it a much more unpleasant place to live on. And people like you wish to do that.

 

[Old Rocks]

(CNN)2017 was once again one of the hottest years on record, ranked as the second-warmest by NASA and third-warmest by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The findings "continue the planet's long-term warming trend," according to NASA. A trend that is driven predominately by human activity through carbon dioxide emissions.
Temperature records for the planet, monitored independently by both agencies, go back to 1880. The announcement came at a joint press conference on Thursday in Washington.


The hottest year on record remains 2016, while 2015 ranks second according to NOAA and third by NASA, which means the top three years have been the most recent three.

Though 2017 was slightly cooler on average compared to 2016. the trend towards a warmer planet has never been clearer.
The six hottest years have all occurred since 2010 and 17 of the 18 hottest years on record have occurred since 2001.

2017 one of the hottest years on record - CNN

For all you lying dingleberry denialists, having 17 of the 18 hottest years on record in the last 18 years is hardly a 'Pause' LOL