Breaking: Charleston SC, white male shoots 8 people at Souths oldest black church

[Correll]

American conservatives are right wing racist bigots and frightened little ninnies....

sorry, you libs have demonstrated that you are the bigots here.


this one shooter is not representative of the American south and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

this one shooter grew up in the south,a nd apparently no one told him, "Hey, that's crazy talk" when he started talking smack about shooting black people.

pretty common for people close to a shooter to not really believe that that shooter is really going to do it.

this one shooter is not representative of the america south, and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

 

[Correll]

we went off topic to discuss obama's statement.

obama made a comment about mass violence.

it was being discussed as the paraphrase of mass murder.

joe changed to wording to a very different word, shooting instead of murder, in order to make his point.

i was just pointing out that he felt he had to.

and that he tried to slide that little adjustment past us dishonestly.

odd you couldn't grasp that fact.

you being so smart and all.

so, do you have anything to actually say about that?

lol, rhetorical question, i know the answer is no.

guy, nobody does "mass violence" without a gun. You are a complete retard. I know it's a tough week for Southern Retards, as one of your own just got caught doing something really stupid.

In Australia they use arson, in other places around the world they use bombs....moron....

actually arson as a tool of mass murder has been used here too.

some madmen like fire.

 

[2aguy]

Before we start, I want to point out that 2AGuy, the nuttiest of the gun nuts, could not find a European country that has anywhere near the number of mass shooting incidents we have in the US.

Violence is cultural....in Europe they aren't as violent as our inner city populations, where most of our violence is.

And we are back to 'it's just the darkies killing each other, so that makes it okay." argument. Even though we are talking about a racist who shot a bunch of unarmed black people. This person will say with the same lack of fucking irony if those grannies had been packing, they could have stopped this madman.

They all have things in common, feudalism...which created a class society where the commoners had no access to weapons or the ability to fight, and World War 1 and 2 as well as nazi occupation in all of those countries...they have been beaten down as people and have developed a national pacifism...which you could see back when hitler was coming to power, and now, when Putin is rampaging through the Ukraine....

Uh, in the Ukraine, you have plenty of people fighting. The problem is, if Putin wanted to, he could crush the whole of the Ukraine in about a week. Instead, what you have there is the Russians living in the Ukraine not wanting to be part of the Ukraine anymore. And expressing that with- wait for it - guns.

Also....in Britain..they can search your house when they want.....it is easier to control the population when the police have more power....and that is even more so in Japan, China, South Korea...........citizens have fewer rights in those countries...for speech and searches......

Horseshit. The British have the same protections against unlawful searches we have.

Search Warrants Avoiding the Pitfalls UK Police Law Blog

But you do have a point. The police do have an easier time controlling an unarmed population. That's why they don't have 500+ Police shootings a year.

American Cops Just Killed More People in March than the UK Did in the Entire 20th Century The Free Thought Project

Just last month, in the 31 days of March, police in the United States killed more people than the UK did in the entire 20th century. In fact, it was twice as many; police in the UK only killed 52 people during that 100 year period.

According to the report by ThinkProgess, in March alone, 111 people died during police encounters — 36 more than the previous month. As in the past, numerous incidents were spurred by violent threats from suspects, and two officers were shot in Ferguson during a peaceful protest. However, the deaths follow a national pattern: suspects were mostly people of color, mentally ill, or both.

Um, er. Founding Fathers... Er, um Freedom?

Tell me how one extreme gun control law stops their criminals from getting hand grenades, rocket propelled grenades, pistols and fully automatic rifles.......since their criminals get them all the time whenever they want even with their extreme gun control.....their gun control laws are more extreme than ours and their criminals get all of those weapons easily......

Explain that joe......

They don't get them that often, guy, that's the point. You maybe have one incident a decade, and when they do have an incident, they tighten down the laws to keep from it happening again.

In this country, we have an incident like this, we find out the person was batshit crazy and got a gun anyway, and the NRA goes out and makes sure that guns are even more freely available.

Moron...you still didn't explain how their criminals easily get hand grenades, fully automatic rifles, pistols and rocket propelled grenades whenever they want them....with their extreme gun control laws....and the French want to put soldiers in Marseille because of the gun violence there.....this year...and that is after the Charlie Hebdo shooting, and the shooting in marseille before the prime minister went there, and the attack on the Jewish school in France......

How do they get their weapons so easily with their extreme gun control...again.....they are by culture pacifists and compliant to authority....

 

[Correll]

The rise of people like David Duke.

The story of the Klu Klux Klan in pictures racism civil rights and murder - Flashbak

The sharp rise in hate groups in the last 25 years.

Hate and Extremism Southern Poverty Law Center

Where have you been watching reruns of the Duke boys?

david duke didn't rise. he was a flash in the pan based on hiding his past. once it came out he was disgraced.

do you know what his support was in that presidential election he ran? look it up, it will make you feel better.


sharp rise in hate groups?

a big increase is a trivial number is nothing to be impressed with.

what has really changed is that libs have grown increasingly intolerant of viewpoints that don't agree with theirs.

thus, you no longer just disagree with them, you have to be a bad person, and be marginalized.

you have become bigots.

Why do you work so hard to argue a losing point? It seems to be your thing. Consensus if forming to remove the flag. It would be political suicide to oppose it given the circumstances.

you continually put up these reasons for your position.

when i destroy them, instead of responding, you revert to fallacy of argument by assertion.

with some fallacy of ad populum thrown in for good measure.

the flag is a harmless symbol of regional pride. it has been seen that way for generations.

Do you not see the consensus forming against you? That is not a fallacy. The flag is all but gone.

The flag should be gone...although it is a free speech issue and an issue for South Carolina, the flag is a symbol of democrat racism and needs to be taken down.....

it was a symbol of democratic racism, a long time ago.

now it is a harmless symbol of southern pride.

taking it down would be a celebration of bigotry, from the left or the democrats against the now not racist south.

 

[2aguy]

American conservatives are right wing racist bigots and frightened little ninnies....

sorry, you libs have demonstrated that you are the bigots here.


this one shooter is not representative of the American south and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

this one shooter grew up in the south,a nd apparently no one told him, "Hey, that's crazy talk" when he started talking smack about shooting black people.

pretty common for people close to a shooter to not really believe that that shooter is really going to do it.

this one shooter is not representative of the america south, and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

He is very close to old school democrats though...he steps on the American flag and burns it....the left does this...they love stepping on the American flag and fought for their right to burn it....he is a left wing socialist.....

 

[2aguy]

we went off topic to discuss obama's statement.

obama made a comment about mass violence.

it was being discussed as the paraphrase of mass murder.

joe changed to wording to a very different word, shooting instead of murder, in order to make his point.

i was just pointing out that he felt he had to.

and that he tried to slide that little adjustment past us dishonestly.

odd you couldn't grasp that fact.

you being so smart and all.

so, do you have anything to actually say about that?

lol, rhetorical question, i know the answer is no.

guy, nobody does "mass violence" without a gun. You are a complete retard. I know it's a tough week for Southern Retards, as one of your own just got caught doing something really stupid.

In Australia they use arson, in other places around the world they use bombs....moron....

actually arson as a tool of mass murder has been used here too.

some madmen like fire.

And bombs......

 

[JoeB131]

Moron....al gore brought up willie horton first in an interview.....

Al Gore did not mention Willie Horton by name, much less splash a big picture of him on all our TV screens like Bush did.

 

[2aguy]

Moron....al gore brought up willie horton first in an interview.....

Al Gore did not mention Willie Horton by name, much less splash a big picture of him on all our TV screens like Bush did.

So...he brought it up first....

And willie horton was an actual result of dukakis parole policies for violent criminals....he did get released on good behavior, did not return to the prison and tortured the man and raped the woman..when he should never have been released...but instead of actually dealing with the prison policies of Dukakis....you assholes screamed "racism" and you minions in the press refused to discuss anything else......must be nice to have the press on your side...you can lie at will and never worry about having people call you on it....

 

[JoeB131]

eagan mentioned welfare queens like once.

and concerns about inter generational welfare and welfare fraud were/are valid issues.

He mentioned them a LOT. He did take the word "young bucks" out of his speeches because that was too racist. Not to mention he kicked off his campaign in MS where the civil rights workers were killed back in the 1960's.

willie horton? brought up by gore first, and was a completely valid issue.

a couple was raped and assaulted for hours by a vicious thug because of dukakis lib policy and actions.

Al Gore didn't mention Willie Horton by name, and he didn't use the race-baiting Bush did on the topic.

The thing was, the Furlough Program that Horton got out under was started by Dukakis' republican predecessor, and Dukakis is the one who changed it.

Which didn't stop Bush from using 'Look, Scary Black Man" commercials.

like i said. "dog whistle" is code for "we can't find any racism, but we NEED to find racism to justify our constant use of the Race Card and race baiting"

Right. Because there isn't any racism in the Right Wing today...

 

[2aguy]

Moron....al gore brought up willie horton first in an interview.....

Al Gore did not mention Willie Horton by name, much less splash a big picture of him on all our TV screens like Bush did.

And the lie.....the famous Willie Horton add...never mentioned willie Horton...and look at all the white faces in the add going through the turnstile.....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

American conservatives are right wing racist bigots and frightened little ninnies....

sorry, you libs have demonstrated that you are the bigots here.


this one shooter is not representative of the American south and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

this one shooter grew up in the south,a nd apparently no one told him, "Hey, that's crazy talk" when he started talking smack about shooting black people.

pretty common for people close to a shooter to not really believe that that shooter is really going to do it.

this one shooter is not representative of the america south, and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

He is very close to old school democrats though...he steps on the American flag and burns it....the left does this...they love stepping on the American flag and fought for their right to burn it....he is a left wing socialist.....

He is one of your conservative racist acolytes...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

American conservatives are right wing racist bigots and frightened little ninnies....

sorry, you libs have demonstrated that you are the bigots here.


this one shooter is not representative of the American south and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

this one shooter grew up in the south,a nd apparently no one told him, "Hey, that's crazy talk" when he started talking smack about shooting black people.

pretty common for people close to a shooter to not really believe that that shooter is really going to do it.

this one shooter is not representative of the america south, and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

He is a true believer in white supremacy...

 

[2aguy]

eagan mentioned welfare queens like once.

and concerns about inter generational welfare and welfare fraud were/are valid issues.

He mentioned them a LOT. He did take the word "young bucks" out of his speeches because that was too racist. Not to mention he kicked off his campaign in MS where the civil rights workers were killed back in the 1960's.

willie horton? brought up by gore first, and was a completely valid issue.

a couple was raped and assaulted for hours by a vicious thug because of dukakis lib policy and actions.

Al Gore didn't mention Willie Horton by name, and he didn't use the race-baiting Bush did on the topic.

The thing was, the Furlough Program that Horton got out under was started by Dukakis' republican predecessor, and Dukakis is the one who changed it.

Which didn't stop Bush from using 'Look, Scary Black Man" commercials.

like i said. "dog whistle" is code for "we can't find any racism, but we NEED to find racism to justify our constant use of the Race Card and race baiting"

Right. Because there isn't any racism in the Right Wing today...

Which scary black men are in this commercial...the famous willie horton add that never mentions willie horton........the democrat media lied to push the democrats....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The shooter is an ideological fellow traveler of conservatives ...its right wing..

 

[JoeB131]

So...he brought it up first....

And willie horton was an actual result of dukakis parole policies for violent criminals....he did get released on good behavior, did not return to the prison and tortured the man and raped the woman..when he should never have been released...but instead of actually dealing with the prison policies of Dukakis....you assholes screamed "racism" and you minions in the press refused to discuss anything else......must be nice to have the press on your side...you can lie at will and never worry about having people call you on it....

Uh, no. again, you are showing your complete ignorance of what happened.

First, Al Gore did not mention Willie horton by name. he brought up the issue in a debate, Dukakis answered it and that was kind of it.

Second- The policy of furloughing criminals was initiated under Dukakis' republican predecesor, and it was actually a good idea. Acclimating prisoners who were about to be released to the outside so they didn't re-offend five minutes after getting out. The courts - not Dukakis - ruled that these furloughs should be expanded to prisoner like Horton who shouldn't qualify for them.

Democratic Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis was the governor of Massachusetts at the time of Horton's release, and while he did not start the furlough program, he had supported it as a method of criminal rehabilitation. The state inmate furlough program, originally signed into law by Republican Governor Francis W. Sargent in 1972, excluded convicted first-degree murderers. However, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that this right extended to first-degree murderers, because the law specifically did not exclude them.[6] The Massachusetts legislature quickly passed a bill prohibiting furloughs for such inmates. However, in 1976, Dukakis vetoed this bill arguing it would "cut the heart out of efforts at inmate rehabilitation."[7] The program remained in effect through the intervening term of governor Edward J. King and was abolished during Dukakis' final term of office on April 28, 1988. This abolition occurred only after the Lawrence Eagle-Tribunehad run 175 stories about the furlough program and won a Pulitzer Prize.[8]

Frankly, it wasn't a matter of the Press being on Dukakis' side, because Bush got away with this bullshit.

 

[2aguy]

American conservatives are right wing racist bigots and frightened little ninnies....

sorry, you libs have demonstrated that you are the bigots here.


this one shooter is not representative of the American south and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

this one shooter grew up in the south,a nd apparently no one told him, "Hey, that's crazy talk" when he started talking smack about shooting black people.

pretty common for people close to a shooter to not really believe that that shooter is really going to do it.

this one shooter is not representative of the america south, and only a bigot would claim otherwise.

He is very close to old school democrats though...he steps on the American flag and burns it....the left does this...they love stepping on the American flag and fought for their right to burn it....he is a left wing socialist.....

He is one of your conservative racist acolytes...

I am not the racist...I am an American Conservative who votes for Republicans....

The democrats are the racists...known by the company they keep...they elected a racist as President...obama sat in a racist church for 20 years, he had the racist pastor, jeremiah wright marry him and michelle, and the racist pastor baptized their daughters....

The democrat party is composed of racist political groups....la raza, a openly racist hispanic group..the name means "The Race".....the racist naacp, the southern poverty law center, the congressional Black caucus, and is the home of the nation of islam...an openly racist organization, and al sharpton, a known racist agitator who has caused the deaths of innocent people, has been to the White House many, many times, and remember the racist jesse jackson is also a democrat...

The white racists...bill clinton...the violent sexual predator, dedicated a statue to his good friend and political mentor j. william fulbright, an old school segregationist, and he even had a place of honor for vile racist orval faubus, the guy who put the national guard blocking the school house doors to the black children, a place of honor at his inauguration as governor..

The democrats are the racists.....moron.....tell me these facts and the truth and reality are wrong....

 

[JoeB131]

Which scary black men are in this commercial...the famous willie horton add that never mentions willie horton........the democrat media lied to push the democrats....

 

[2aguy]

The shooter is an ideological fellow traveler of conservatives ...its right wing..

keep saying it...your allies in the media will spread the lie......but the truth is the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism....from slavery, the kkk, jim crow, lynchings, poll taxes, literacy tests and the democrat controlled destruction of blacks and hispanics in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, D.C., New Orleans..... and all the other democrat racist controlled cities....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The democrats are the racists.....moron.....tell me these facts and the truth and reality are wrong....

Here is reality...your beliefs about "the Negro" makes the killer a fellow traveler to conservatives...he is on your side....There is a reason the Flag of Slave mongers flies over the S Carolina Govt buildings...its called Republican racism...

In 2013, one of its national board members and tea party activist Roan Garcia-Quintana was forced to step down as a volunteer for South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s re-election campaign after his affiliation with the Council of Conservative Citizens was revealed.


Read more here: Missouri group named in manifesto possibly penned by accused Charleston shooter The Kansas City Star The Kansas City Star

 

[JoeB131]

Moron...you still didn't explain how their criminals easily get hand grenades, fully automatic rifles, pistols and rocket propelled grenades whenever they want them....with their extreme gun control laws....and the French want to put soldiers in Marseille because of the gun violence there.....this year...and that is after the Charlie Hebdo shooting, and the shooting in marseille before the prime minister went there, and the attack on the Jewish school in France......

How do they get their weapons so easily with their extreme gun control...again.....they are by culture pacifists and compliant to authority....

So essentially, you are admitting that they have tough gun control and they have few mass shootings or mass murders...

and you don't see a correlation.