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[RealDave]

Again, the Bill of Rights is a fee good document that was voted on to make a couple of leaders feel good. It's still just the first 10 amendments of the previously written and ratified Constitution of the United States. The Bill of rights, no matter how much importance you place on it, has exactly zero legal meaning in any court in the land. The States didn't give a thing back to the Feds with the Bill of Rights./

So due process doesn't have any legal meaning in a court of law?

According to the Bill of Rights, no. According to the US Constitution of the United States, Yes. Not once has any court ever ruled that something was UnBill of Rightable.

Due process comes from the bill of rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Cases - Search and seizure
Abel v. United States[/paste:font]
Was Abel properly arrested pursuant to an administrative Immigration and Naturalization Service warrant despite an overlapping FBI investigation for espionage? Were the Fourth and Fifth Amendments violated when the United States searched and seized evidence from Abel while he was in custody pursuant to an INS warrant?

Adams v. Williams[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the Fourth Amendment allows a police officer, acting only on a tip from an informant, to approach a person and remove a weapon concealed in the person’s waistband.
Aguilar v. Texas[/paste:font]

Air Pollution Variance Board of Colorado v. Western Alfalfa Corporation[/paste:font]

Alabama v. White[/paste:font]
Does an anonymous tip alone provide a reasonable suspicion sufficient to stop and search an individual’s car?

Alderman v. United States[/paste:font]
(1) Do the petitioners have standing to object to surveillance evidence without prior screening in camera?


(2) Must evidence be excluded from trial if the government unlawfully overheard the petitioners' conversations or conversations occurring on the petitioners' premises, even if they were not present, or did not participate in, the conversations?

Almeida-Sanchez v. United States[/paste:font]

Arizona v. Evans[/paste:font]
Does the exclusionary rule prohibit the introduction of the evidence seized in violation of the Fourth Amendment on the basis of an erroneous police record?

Arizona v. Gant[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may search a suspect's vehicle after his arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of the arrest.
Arizona v. Hicks[/paste:font]
Was the search of the stereo equipment (a search beyond the exigencies of the original entry) reasonable under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Arizona v. Johnson[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may lawfully search an individual during a routine traffic stop if they believe him to be armed and dangerous, even if they had no reason to believe he was involved in criminal activity when he was searched.
Arkansas v. Sanders[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless search of the suitcase by the police violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit unreasonable searches?

Atwater v. City of Lago Vista[/paste:font]
Does the Fourth Amendment, either by incorporating common-law restrictions on misdemeanor arrests or otherwise, limit a police officer's authority to arrest without warrant for minor criminal offenses?

Bailey v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court found that once an individual left the premises after being searched under a legal search warrant, the individual's detainment must be justified by means other than the warrant.
Beck v. Ohio[/paste:font]

Benanti v. United States[/paste:font]

Berger v. New York[/paste:font]

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics[/paste:font]
(1) Does violation of an individual’s Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure give rise to a federal claim for damages?


(2) Does governmental privilege extend to federal agents who clearly violate constitutional rights and act outside their authority?

Black v. United States[/paste:font]

Bond v. United States[/paste:font]
Does a law enforcement officer's physical manipulation of a bus passenger's carry-on luggage violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches?

Breithaupt v. Abram[/paste:font]

Brendlin v. California[/paste:font]
When a vehicle is subject to a traffic stop, is a passenger in the vehicle "detained" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment?

Brigham City v. Stuart[/paste:font]
What objectively reasonable level of concern is necessary to trigger the emergency aid exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement?

Brower v. Inyo County[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police roadblock could constitute an illegal seizure under the Fourth Amendment.
Brown v. Texas[/paste:font]
When the police detain someone because that person refused to identify himself, does it constitute a seizure subject to the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment?

Brown v. United States[/paste:font]

Bumper v. North Carolina[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a search is not lawful under the Fourth Amendment if consent is given only after the police falsely claim to have a warrant.
Byrd v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a driver of a rental car who has permission to drive the car but is not listed as an authorized driver on the rental agreement has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the rental car.
Cady v. Dombrowski[/paste:font]

California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz[/paste:font]

California v. Acevedo[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment permits police to conduct a warrantless search of a container within an automobile if they have probable cause to believe the container holds evidence.
California v. Carney[/paste:font]
Does the warrantless search of a motor home violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Ciraolo[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless, aerial observation of Ciraolo's back yard from an altitude of 1,000 feet constitute an illegal search and violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Greenwood[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that garbage placed on the sidewalk was not protected under the Fourth Amendment.
California v. Hodari D.[/paste:font]
(1) Has a person who is not under the physical control of a police officer been "seized" under the Fourth Amendment when the officer is chasing that person?


(2) Can a person who is pursued by a police officer avoid prosecution by discarding incriminating evidence and asserting that he did so out of fear of an unlawful search?

California v. Rooney[/paste:font]

Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco[/paste:font]
Do §503 of the SFHC, which authorizes inspection of private dwellings without a warrant, and §507, which makes it a crime to refuse such an inspection, violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Cardwell v. Lewis[/paste:font]

Carpenter v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the warrantless seizure and search of cell phone records revealing the location and movements of a cell phone user over the course of 127 days violates the Fourth Amendment.
Chambers v. Maroney[/paste:font]

Chapman v. United States[/paste:font]

Chimel v. California[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that searches following an arrest are limited to the area within immediate control of the suspect.
City of Indianapolis v. Edmond[/paste:font]
Are highway checkpoint programs, whose primary purpose is the discovery and interdiction of illegal narcotics, consistent with the Fourth Amendment?

City of Los Angeles v. Patel[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court determined that a municipal ordinance that allows the police to inspect hotel records without a warrant violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches unless the business owner is given the opportunity for pre-compliance review.
City of Ontario v. Quon[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the city of Ontario's search of an employee's text messages did not violate his First Amendment rights because the search was not excessive in scope and was motivated by a legitimate work-related purpose.
Clinton v. Virginia[/paste:font]

Collins v. Virginia[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police officer cannot, under the Fourth Amendment, enter private property in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle parked a few feet from the house.
Colonnade Catering Corporation v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that while warrantless administrative searches and seizures of liquor pursuant to federal statute did not violate the Fourth Amendment, such search and seizures were not authorized by the statute in question.
ARGUED
Jan 15, 1970
DECIDED
Feb 25, 1970
CITATION
397 US 72 (1970)

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The reason they were banned 10 years ago was that they weren't in common use of the time. Now they are.

The ban was from 1994 to 2004. At the time it took affect, it is estimated 1.4 million "assault" weapons were owned. It also banned magazines of over 10 rounds.

there are over 20 million in the hands of citizens the most owned firearm system in America 1.4 million wasn't in common use. over 20 million is in common use.

millions pf people use opioids.

and? where in the bill of rights is there a civil right to take any drug you want?

Where does it say I can't? Isn't that your argument on AR-15s

Where does it say you can?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So due process doesn't have any legal meaning in a court of law?

According to the Bill of Rights, no. According to the US Constitution of the United States, Yes. Not once has any court ever ruled that something was UnBill of Rightable.

Due process comes from the bill of rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Cases - Search and seizure
Abel v. United States[/paste:font]
Was Abel properly arrested pursuant to an administrative Immigration and Naturalization Service warrant despite an overlapping FBI investigation for espionage? Were the Fourth and Fifth Amendments violated when the United States searched and seized evidence from Abel while he was in custody pursuant to an INS warrant?

Adams v. Williams[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the Fourth Amendment allows a police officer, acting only on a tip from an informant, to approach a person and remove a weapon concealed in the person’s waistband.
Aguilar v. Texas[/paste:font]

Air Pollution Variance Board of Colorado v. Western Alfalfa Corporation[/paste:font]

Alabama v. White[/paste:font]
Does an anonymous tip alone provide a reasonable suspicion sufficient to stop and search an individual’s car?

Alderman v. United States[/paste:font]
(1) Do the petitioners have standing to object to surveillance evidence without prior screening in camera?


(2) Must evidence be excluded from trial if the government unlawfully overheard the petitioners' conversations or conversations occurring on the petitioners' premises, even if they were not present, or did not participate in, the conversations?

Almeida-Sanchez v. United States[/paste:font]

Arizona v. Evans[/paste:font]
Does the exclusionary rule prohibit the introduction of the evidence seized in violation of the Fourth Amendment on the basis of an erroneous police record?

Arizona v. Gant[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may search a suspect's vehicle after his arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of the arrest.
Arizona v. Hicks[/paste:font]
Was the search of the stereo equipment (a search beyond the exigencies of the original entry) reasonable under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Arizona v. Johnson[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may lawfully search an individual during a routine traffic stop if they believe him to be armed and dangerous, even if they had no reason to believe he was involved in criminal activity when he was searched.
Arkansas v. Sanders[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless search of the suitcase by the police violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit unreasonable searches?

Atwater v. City of Lago Vista[/paste:font]
Does the Fourth Amendment, either by incorporating common-law restrictions on misdemeanor arrests or otherwise, limit a police officer's authority to arrest without warrant for minor criminal offenses?

Bailey v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court found that once an individual left the premises after being searched under a legal search warrant, the individual's detainment must be justified by means other than the warrant.
Beck v. Ohio[/paste:font]

Benanti v. United States[/paste:font]

Berger v. New York[/paste:font]

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics[/paste:font]
(1) Does violation of an individual’s Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure give rise to a federal claim for damages?


(2) Does governmental privilege extend to federal agents who clearly violate constitutional rights and act outside their authority?

Black v. United States[/paste:font]

Bond v. United States[/paste:font]
Does a law enforcement officer's physical manipulation of a bus passenger's carry-on luggage violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches?

Breithaupt v. Abram[/paste:font]

Brendlin v. California[/paste:font]
When a vehicle is subject to a traffic stop, is a passenger in the vehicle "detained" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment?

Brigham City v. Stuart[/paste:font]
What objectively reasonable level of concern is necessary to trigger the emergency aid exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement?

Brower v. Inyo County[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police roadblock could constitute an illegal seizure under the Fourth Amendment.
Brown v. Texas[/paste:font]
When the police detain someone because that person refused to identify himself, does it constitute a seizure subject to the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment?

Brown v. United States[/paste:font]

Bumper v. North Carolina[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a search is not lawful under the Fourth Amendment if consent is given only after the police falsely claim to have a warrant.
Byrd v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a driver of a rental car who has permission to drive the car but is not listed as an authorized driver on the rental agreement has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the rental car.
Cady v. Dombrowski[/paste:font]

California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz[/paste:font]

California v. Acevedo[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment permits police to conduct a warrantless search of a container within an automobile if they have probable cause to believe the container holds evidence.
California v. Carney[/paste:font]
Does the warrantless search of a motor home violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Ciraolo[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless, aerial observation of Ciraolo's back yard from an altitude of 1,000 feet constitute an illegal search and violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Greenwood[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that garbage placed on the sidewalk was not protected under the Fourth Amendment.
California v. Hodari D.[/paste:font]
(1) Has a person who is not under the physical control of a police officer been "seized" under the Fourth Amendment when the officer is chasing that person?


(2) Can a person who is pursued by a police officer avoid prosecution by discarding incriminating evidence and asserting that he did so out of fear of an unlawful search?

California v. Rooney[/paste:font]

Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco[/paste:font]
Do §503 of the SFHC, which authorizes inspection of private dwellings without a warrant, and §507, which makes it a crime to refuse such an inspection, violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Cardwell v. Lewis[/paste:font]

Carpenter v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the warrantless seizure and search of cell phone records revealing the location and movements of a cell phone user over the course of 127 days violates the Fourth Amendment.
Chambers v. Maroney[/paste:font]

Chapman v. United States[/paste:font]

Chimel v. California[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that searches following an arrest are limited to the area within immediate control of the suspect.
City of Indianapolis v. Edmond[/paste:font]
Are highway checkpoint programs, whose primary purpose is the discovery and interdiction of illegal narcotics, consistent with the Fourth Amendment?

City of Los Angeles v. Patel[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court determined that a municipal ordinance that allows the police to inspect hotel records without a warrant violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches unless the business owner is given the opportunity for pre-compliance review.
City of Ontario v. Quon[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the city of Ontario's search of an employee's text messages did not violate his First Amendment rights because the search was not excessive in scope and was motivated by a legitimate work-related purpose.
Clinton v. Virginia[/paste:font]

Collins v. Virginia[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police officer cannot, under the Fourth Amendment, enter private property in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle parked a few feet from the house.
Colonnade Catering Corporation v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that while warrantless administrative searches and seizures of liquor pursuant to federal statute did not violate the Fourth Amendment, such search and seizures were not authorized by the statute in question.
ARGUED
Jan 15, 1970
DECIDED
Feb 25, 1970
CITATION
397 US 72 (1970)

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

The Supreme court ruled that in order for a firearm to be protected by the second amendment, it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
So tell me what firearm is there that is in common use that would have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia?

 

[RealDave]

According to the Bill of Rights, no. According to the US Constitution of the United States, Yes. Not once has any court ever ruled that something was UnBill of Rightable.

Due process comes from the bill of rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Cases - Search and seizure
Abel v. United States[/paste:font]
Was Abel properly arrested pursuant to an administrative Immigration and Naturalization Service warrant despite an overlapping FBI investigation for espionage? Were the Fourth and Fifth Amendments violated when the United States searched and seized evidence from Abel while he was in custody pursuant to an INS warrant?

Adams v. Williams[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the Fourth Amendment allows a police officer, acting only on a tip from an informant, to approach a person and remove a weapon concealed in the person’s waistband.
Aguilar v. Texas[/paste:font]

Air Pollution Variance Board of Colorado v. Western Alfalfa Corporation[/paste:font]

Alabama v. White[/paste:font]
Does an anonymous tip alone provide a reasonable suspicion sufficient to stop and search an individual’s car?

Alderman v. United States[/paste:font]
(1) Do the petitioners have standing to object to surveillance evidence without prior screening in camera?


(2) Must evidence be excluded from trial if the government unlawfully overheard the petitioners' conversations or conversations occurring on the petitioners' premises, even if they were not present, or did not participate in, the conversations?

Almeida-Sanchez v. United States[/paste:font]

Arizona v. Evans[/paste:font]
Does the exclusionary rule prohibit the introduction of the evidence seized in violation of the Fourth Amendment on the basis of an erroneous police record?

Arizona v. Gant[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may search a suspect's vehicle after his arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of the arrest.
Arizona v. Hicks[/paste:font]
Was the search of the stereo equipment (a search beyond the exigencies of the original entry) reasonable under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Arizona v. Johnson[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may lawfully search an individual during a routine traffic stop if they believe him to be armed and dangerous, even if they had no reason to believe he was involved in criminal activity when he was searched.
Arkansas v. Sanders[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless search of the suitcase by the police violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit unreasonable searches?

Atwater v. City of Lago Vista[/paste:font]
Does the Fourth Amendment, either by incorporating common-law restrictions on misdemeanor arrests or otherwise, limit a police officer's authority to arrest without warrant for minor criminal offenses?

Bailey v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court found that once an individual left the premises after being searched under a legal search warrant, the individual's detainment must be justified by means other than the warrant.
Beck v. Ohio[/paste:font]

Benanti v. United States[/paste:font]

Berger v. New York[/paste:font]

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics[/paste:font]
(1) Does violation of an individual’s Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure give rise to a federal claim for damages?


(2) Does governmental privilege extend to federal agents who clearly violate constitutional rights and act outside their authority?

Black v. United States[/paste:font]

Bond v. United States[/paste:font]
Does a law enforcement officer's physical manipulation of a bus passenger's carry-on luggage violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches?

Breithaupt v. Abram[/paste:font]

Brendlin v. California[/paste:font]
When a vehicle is subject to a traffic stop, is a passenger in the vehicle "detained" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment?

Brigham City v. Stuart[/paste:font]
What objectively reasonable level of concern is necessary to trigger the emergency aid exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement?

Brower v. Inyo County[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police roadblock could constitute an illegal seizure under the Fourth Amendment.
Brown v. Texas[/paste:font]
When the police detain someone because that person refused to identify himself, does it constitute a seizure subject to the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment?

Brown v. United States[/paste:font]

Bumper v. North Carolina[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a search is not lawful under the Fourth Amendment if consent is given only after the police falsely claim to have a warrant.
Byrd v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a driver of a rental car who has permission to drive the car but is not listed as an authorized driver on the rental agreement has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the rental car.
Cady v. Dombrowski[/paste:font]

California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz[/paste:font]

California v. Acevedo[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment permits police to conduct a warrantless search of a container within an automobile if they have probable cause to believe the container holds evidence.
California v. Carney[/paste:font]
Does the warrantless search of a motor home violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Ciraolo[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless, aerial observation of Ciraolo's back yard from an altitude of 1,000 feet constitute an illegal search and violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Greenwood[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that garbage placed on the sidewalk was not protected under the Fourth Amendment.
California v. Hodari D.[/paste:font]
(1) Has a person who is not under the physical control of a police officer been "seized" under the Fourth Amendment when the officer is chasing that person?


(2) Can a person who is pursued by a police officer avoid prosecution by discarding incriminating evidence and asserting that he did so out of fear of an unlawful search?

California v. Rooney[/paste:font]

Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco[/paste:font]
Do §503 of the SFHC, which authorizes inspection of private dwellings without a warrant, and §507, which makes it a crime to refuse such an inspection, violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Cardwell v. Lewis[/paste:font]

Carpenter v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the warrantless seizure and search of cell phone records revealing the location and movements of a cell phone user over the course of 127 days violates the Fourth Amendment.
Chambers v. Maroney[/paste:font]

Chapman v. United States[/paste:font]

Chimel v. California[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that searches following an arrest are limited to the area within immediate control of the suspect.
City of Indianapolis v. Edmond[/paste:font]
Are highway checkpoint programs, whose primary purpose is the discovery and interdiction of illegal narcotics, consistent with the Fourth Amendment?

City of Los Angeles v. Patel[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court determined that a municipal ordinance that allows the police to inspect hotel records without a warrant violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches unless the business owner is given the opportunity for pre-compliance review.
City of Ontario v. Quon[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the city of Ontario's search of an employee's text messages did not violate his First Amendment rights because the search was not excessive in scope and was motivated by a legitimate work-related purpose.
Clinton v. Virginia[/paste:font]

Collins v. Virginia[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police officer cannot, under the Fourth Amendment, enter private property in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle parked a few feet from the house.
Colonnade Catering Corporation v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that while warrantless administrative searches and seizures of liquor pursuant to federal statute did not violate the Fourth Amendment, such search and seizures were not authorized by the statute in question.
ARGUED
Jan 15, 1970
DECIDED
Feb 25, 1970
CITATION
397 US 72 (1970)

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

The Supreme court ruled that in order for a firearm to be protected by the second amendment, it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
So tell me what firearm is there that is in common use that would have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia?

To what well regulated militia do you belong?

 

[RealDave]

The ban was from 1994 to 2004. At the time it took affect, it is estimated 1.4 million "assault" weapons were owned. It also banned magazines of over 10 rounds.

there are over 20 million in the hands of citizens the most owned firearm system in America 1.4 million wasn't in common use. over 20 million is in common use.

millions pf people use opioids.

and? where in the bill of rights is there a civil right to take any drug you want?

Where does it say I can't? Isn't that your argument on AR-15s

Where does it say you can?

Where does it say I can take an Aspirin?

 

[Baz Ares]

Interesting

texASS is an unsafe gun nutter Zone.

 

[okfine]

Due process comes from the bill of rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Cases - Search and seizure
Abel v. United States[/paste:font]
Was Abel properly arrested pursuant to an administrative Immigration and Naturalization Service warrant despite an overlapping FBI investigation for espionage? Were the Fourth and Fifth Amendments violated when the United States searched and seized evidence from Abel while he was in custody pursuant to an INS warrant?

Adams v. Williams[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the Fourth Amendment allows a police officer, acting only on a tip from an informant, to approach a person and remove a weapon concealed in the person’s waistband.
Aguilar v. Texas[/paste:font]

Air Pollution Variance Board of Colorado v. Western Alfalfa Corporation[/paste:font]

Alabama v. White[/paste:font]
Does an anonymous tip alone provide a reasonable suspicion sufficient to stop and search an individual’s car?

Alderman v. United States[/paste:font]
(1) Do the petitioners have standing to object to surveillance evidence without prior screening in camera?


(2) Must evidence be excluded from trial if the government unlawfully overheard the petitioners' conversations or conversations occurring on the petitioners' premises, even if they were not present, or did not participate in, the conversations?

Almeida-Sanchez v. United States[/paste:font]

Arizona v. Evans[/paste:font]
Does the exclusionary rule prohibit the introduction of the evidence seized in violation of the Fourth Amendment on the basis of an erroneous police record?

Arizona v. Gant[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may search a suspect's vehicle after his arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of the arrest.
Arizona v. Hicks[/paste:font]
Was the search of the stereo equipment (a search beyond the exigencies of the original entry) reasonable under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Arizona v. Johnson[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may lawfully search an individual during a routine traffic stop if they believe him to be armed and dangerous, even if they had no reason to believe he was involved in criminal activity when he was searched.
Arkansas v. Sanders[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless search of the suitcase by the police violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit unreasonable searches?

Atwater v. City of Lago Vista[/paste:font]
Does the Fourth Amendment, either by incorporating common-law restrictions on misdemeanor arrests or otherwise, limit a police officer's authority to arrest without warrant for minor criminal offenses?

Bailey v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court found that once an individual left the premises after being searched under a legal search warrant, the individual's detainment must be justified by means other than the warrant.
Beck v. Ohio[/paste:font]

Benanti v. United States[/paste:font]

Berger v. New York[/paste:font]

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics[/paste:font]
(1) Does violation of an individual’s Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure give rise to a federal claim for damages?


(2) Does governmental privilege extend to federal agents who clearly violate constitutional rights and act outside their authority?

Black v. United States[/paste:font]

Bond v. United States[/paste:font]
Does a law enforcement officer's physical manipulation of a bus passenger's carry-on luggage violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches?

Breithaupt v. Abram[/paste:font]

Brendlin v. California[/paste:font]
When a vehicle is subject to a traffic stop, is a passenger in the vehicle "detained" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment?

Brigham City v. Stuart[/paste:font]
What objectively reasonable level of concern is necessary to trigger the emergency aid exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement?

Brower v. Inyo County[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police roadblock could constitute an illegal seizure under the Fourth Amendment.
Brown v. Texas[/paste:font]
When the police detain someone because that person refused to identify himself, does it constitute a seizure subject to the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment?

Brown v. United States[/paste:font]

Bumper v. North Carolina[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a search is not lawful under the Fourth Amendment if consent is given only after the police falsely claim to have a warrant.
Byrd v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a driver of a rental car who has permission to drive the car but is not listed as an authorized driver on the rental agreement has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the rental car.
Cady v. Dombrowski[/paste:font]

California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz[/paste:font]

California v. Acevedo[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment permits police to conduct a warrantless search of a container within an automobile if they have probable cause to believe the container holds evidence.
California v. Carney[/paste:font]
Does the warrantless search of a motor home violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Ciraolo[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless, aerial observation of Ciraolo's back yard from an altitude of 1,000 feet constitute an illegal search and violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Greenwood[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that garbage placed on the sidewalk was not protected under the Fourth Amendment.
California v. Hodari D.[/paste:font]
(1) Has a person who is not under the physical control of a police officer been "seized" under the Fourth Amendment when the officer is chasing that person?


(2) Can a person who is pursued by a police officer avoid prosecution by discarding incriminating evidence and asserting that he did so out of fear of an unlawful search?

California v. Rooney[/paste:font]

Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco[/paste:font]
Do §503 of the SFHC, which authorizes inspection of private dwellings without a warrant, and §507, which makes it a crime to refuse such an inspection, violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Cardwell v. Lewis[/paste:font]

Carpenter v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the warrantless seizure and search of cell phone records revealing the location and movements of a cell phone user over the course of 127 days violates the Fourth Amendment.
Chambers v. Maroney[/paste:font]

Chapman v. United States[/paste:font]

Chimel v. California[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that searches following an arrest are limited to the area within immediate control of the suspect.
City of Indianapolis v. Edmond[/paste:font]
Are highway checkpoint programs, whose primary purpose is the discovery and interdiction of illegal narcotics, consistent with the Fourth Amendment?

City of Los Angeles v. Patel[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court determined that a municipal ordinance that allows the police to inspect hotel records without a warrant violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches unless the business owner is given the opportunity for pre-compliance review.
City of Ontario v. Quon[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the city of Ontario's search of an employee's text messages did not violate his First Amendment rights because the search was not excessive in scope and was motivated by a legitimate work-related purpose.
Clinton v. Virginia[/paste:font]

Collins v. Virginia[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police officer cannot, under the Fourth Amendment, enter private property in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle parked a few feet from the house.
Colonnade Catering Corporation v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that while warrantless administrative searches and seizures of liquor pursuant to federal statute did not violate the Fourth Amendment, such search and seizures were not authorized by the statute in question.
ARGUED
Jan 15, 1970
DECIDED
Feb 25, 1970
CITATION
397 US 72 (1970)

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

The Supreme court ruled that in order for a firearm to be protected by the second amendment, it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
So tell me what firearm is there that is in common use that would have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia?

To what well regulated militia do you belong?

AFAIK NC has no SDF. I could be wrong.

 

[sparky]

Hate cloaked in the guise of freedom is still hate fellas

~S~

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Due process comes from the bill of rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Cases - Search and seizure
Abel v. United States[/paste:font]
Was Abel properly arrested pursuant to an administrative Immigration and Naturalization Service warrant despite an overlapping FBI investigation for espionage? Were the Fourth and Fifth Amendments violated when the United States searched and seized evidence from Abel while he was in custody pursuant to an INS warrant?

Adams v. Williams[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the Fourth Amendment allows a police officer, acting only on a tip from an informant, to approach a person and remove a weapon concealed in the person’s waistband.
Aguilar v. Texas[/paste:font]

Air Pollution Variance Board of Colorado v. Western Alfalfa Corporation[/paste:font]

Alabama v. White[/paste:font]
Does an anonymous tip alone provide a reasonable suspicion sufficient to stop and search an individual’s car?

Alderman v. United States[/paste:font]
(1) Do the petitioners have standing to object to surveillance evidence without prior screening in camera?


(2) Must evidence be excluded from trial if the government unlawfully overheard the petitioners' conversations or conversations occurring on the petitioners' premises, even if they were not present, or did not participate in, the conversations?

Almeida-Sanchez v. United States[/paste:font]

Arizona v. Evans[/paste:font]
Does the exclusionary rule prohibit the introduction of the evidence seized in violation of the Fourth Amendment on the basis of an erroneous police record?

Arizona v. Gant[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may search a suspect's vehicle after his arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of the arrest.
Arizona v. Hicks[/paste:font]
Was the search of the stereo equipment (a search beyond the exigencies of the original entry) reasonable under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Arizona v. Johnson[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that police may lawfully search an individual during a routine traffic stop if they believe him to be armed and dangerous, even if they had no reason to believe he was involved in criminal activity when he was searched.
Arkansas v. Sanders[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless search of the suitcase by the police violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit unreasonable searches?

Atwater v. City of Lago Vista[/paste:font]
Does the Fourth Amendment, either by incorporating common-law restrictions on misdemeanor arrests or otherwise, limit a police officer's authority to arrest without warrant for minor criminal offenses?

Bailey v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court found that once an individual left the premises after being searched under a legal search warrant, the individual's detainment must be justified by means other than the warrant.
Beck v. Ohio[/paste:font]

Benanti v. United States[/paste:font]

Berger v. New York[/paste:font]

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics[/paste:font]
(1) Does violation of an individual’s Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure give rise to a federal claim for damages?


(2) Does governmental privilege extend to federal agents who clearly violate constitutional rights and act outside their authority?

Black v. United States[/paste:font]

Bond v. United States[/paste:font]
Does a law enforcement officer's physical manipulation of a bus passenger's carry-on luggage violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches?

Breithaupt v. Abram[/paste:font]

Brendlin v. California[/paste:font]
When a vehicle is subject to a traffic stop, is a passenger in the vehicle "detained" for purposes of the Fourth Amendment?

Brigham City v. Stuart[/paste:font]
What objectively reasonable level of concern is necessary to trigger the emergency aid exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement?

Brower v. Inyo County[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police roadblock could constitute an illegal seizure under the Fourth Amendment.
Brown v. Texas[/paste:font]
When the police detain someone because that person refused to identify himself, does it constitute a seizure subject to the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment?

Brown v. United States[/paste:font]

Bumper v. North Carolina[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a search is not lawful under the Fourth Amendment if consent is given only after the police falsely claim to have a warrant.
Byrd v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a driver of a rental car who has permission to drive the car but is not listed as an authorized driver on the rental agreement has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the rental car.
Cady v. Dombrowski[/paste:font]

California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz[/paste:font]

California v. Acevedo[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment permits police to conduct a warrantless search of a container within an automobile if they have probable cause to believe the container holds evidence.
California v. Carney[/paste:font]
Does the warrantless search of a motor home violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Ciraolo[/paste:font]
Did the warrantless, aerial observation of Ciraolo's back yard from an altitude of 1,000 feet constitute an illegal search and violate the Fourth Amendment?

California v. Greenwood[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that garbage placed on the sidewalk was not protected under the Fourth Amendment.
California v. Hodari D.[/paste:font]
(1) Has a person who is not under the physical control of a police officer been "seized" under the Fourth Amendment when the officer is chasing that person?


(2) Can a person who is pursued by a police officer avoid prosecution by discarding incriminating evidence and asserting that he did so out of fear of an unlawful search?

California v. Rooney[/paste:font]

Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco[/paste:font]
Do §503 of the SFHC, which authorizes inspection of private dwellings without a warrant, and §507, which makes it a crime to refuse such an inspection, violate the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments?

Cardwell v. Lewis[/paste:font]

Carpenter v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the warrantless seizure and search of cell phone records revealing the location and movements of a cell phone user over the course of 127 days violates the Fourth Amendment.
Chambers v. Maroney[/paste:font]

Chapman v. United States[/paste:font]

Chimel v. California[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that searches following an arrest are limited to the area within immediate control of the suspect.
City of Indianapolis v. Edmond[/paste:font]
Are highway checkpoint programs, whose primary purpose is the discovery and interdiction of illegal narcotics, consistent with the Fourth Amendment?

City of Los Angeles v. Patel[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court determined that a municipal ordinance that allows the police to inspect hotel records without a warrant violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches unless the business owner is given the opportunity for pre-compliance review.
City of Ontario v. Quon[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that the city of Ontario's search of an employee's text messages did not violate his First Amendment rights because the search was not excessive in scope and was motivated by a legitimate work-related purpose.
Clinton v. Virginia[/paste:font]

Collins v. Virginia[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that a police officer cannot, under the Fourth Amendment, enter private property in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle parked a few feet from the house.
Colonnade Catering Corporation v. United States[/paste:font]
A case in which the Court held that while warrantless administrative searches and seizures of liquor pursuant to federal statute did not violate the Fourth Amendment, such search and seizures were not authorized by the statute in question.
ARGUED
Jan 15, 1970
DECIDED
Feb 25, 1970
CITATION
397 US 72 (1970)

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

The Supreme court ruled that in order for a firearm to be protected by the second amendment, it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
So tell me what firearm is there that is in common use that would have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia?

To what well regulated militia do you belong?

The one that is in working order as to be expected in short the unorganized Militia
10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So, you go from regulating assault type rifles to the Bill of Rights?

Those weapons of war you leftist call them are protected by the second amendment confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Do you have a point to make?

Tbe USSC said these can be regulated.

The Supreme court ruled that in order for a firearm to be protected by the second amendment, it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
So tell me what firearm is there that is in common use that would have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia?

To what well regulated militia do you belong?

AFAIK NC has no SDF. I could be wrong.

The Unorganized Militia

 

[sparky]

more 1700's militia machinations Red?

seriously.....

~S~

 

[bigrebnc1775]

there are over 20 million in the hands of citizens the most owned firearm system in America 1.4 million wasn't in common use. over 20 million is in common use.

millions pf people use opioids.

and? where in the bill of rights is there a civil right to take any drug you want?

Where does it say I can't? Isn't that your argument on AR-15s

Where does it say you can?

Where does it say I can take an Aspirin?

Where does it say you can't?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

more 1700's militia machinations Red?

seriously.....

~S~

How about 20th century U.S. Code?
10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Again, the Bill of Rights is a fee good document that was voted on to make a couple of leaders feel good. It's still just the first 10 amendments of the previously written and ratified Constitution of the United States. The Bill of rights, no matter how much importance you place on it, has exactly zero legal meaning in any court in the land. The States didn't give a thing back to the Feds with the Bill of Rights./

Oh, the Tide Pod Challenge didn't go well for you.

Wow, you are astoundingly stupid...

 

[Uncensored2008]

I wish they'd never been invented, but I'll settle for semiauto rifles that take large mags--AR and other military-type rifles.

Look the supreme court has ruled the weapons you don't like are protected by the second amendment.

Is that why they were banned for 10 years? It wasn't the Supreme Court that did away with the ban. The legislature wouldn't renew it. It died in its sunset clause.

The reason they were banned 10 years ago was that they weren't in common use of the time. Now they are.

They still aren't. Only a minority actually owns them. But a portion of the most violent murderers on teh planet in the United States do own them and use them so the Cops had to convert to them as well. The cops found that with their standard sidearms, shotguns and Model 70s, they were severely outgunned and had to uparm. Even today, there are many more conventional firearms than ARs in the average home. But when you find an AR, you often times find a Cache of ARs so the numbers look different unless you look at it that way.

Here is a good question. Why would I need 14 or more ARs like some do have? Why would I have even 5 Model 70 (or that type) of hunting rifles unless they were of a different caliber? Would I own 15 Model 700BDL 308s? But it appears there are enough AR owners out there with multiple ARs that that squew the percentages and you gunnutters try and misrepresent those figures. That used to work but more and more regular people are seeing through your BS because everyone elses lives depend on it.

They are the most popular widely used rifle in America.

I think the Ruger 10-22 is actually the most popular rifle in America.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Look the supreme court has ruled the weapons you don't like are protected by the second amendment.

Is that why they were banned for 10 years? It wasn't the Supreme Court that did away with the ban. The legislature wouldn't renew it. It died in its sunset clause.

The reason they were banned 10 years ago was that they weren't in common use of the time. Now they are.

They still aren't. Only a minority actually owns them. But a portion of the most violent murderers on teh planet in the United States do own them and use them so the Cops had to convert to them as well. The cops found that with their standard sidearms, shotguns and Model 70s, they were severely outgunned and had to uparm. Even today, there are many more conventional firearms than ARs in the average home. But when you find an AR, you often times find a Cache of ARs so the numbers look different unless you look at it that way.

Here is a good question. Why would I need 14 or more ARs like some do have? Why would I have even 5 Model 70 (or that type) of hunting rifles unless they were of a different caliber? Would I own 15 Model 700BDL 308s? But it appears there are enough AR owners out there with multiple ARs that that squew the percentages and you gunnutters try and misrepresent those figures. That used to work but more and more regular people are seeing through your BS because everyone elses lives depend on it.

They are the most popular widely used rifle in America.

I think the Ruger 10-22 is actually the most popular rifle in America.

Modern Sporting Rifle: Introduction • NSSF
The term “modern sporting rifle” was coined to describe today’s very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring. These rifles are used by hunters, competitors, a lot of Americans seeking home-defense guns and by many others who simply enjoy going to the range.
Modern Sporting Rifle Facts

• Modern sporting rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold today.
• The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Is that why they were banned for 10 years? It wasn't the Supreme Court that did away with the ban. The legislature wouldn't renew it. It died in its sunset clause.

The reason they were banned 10 years ago was that they weren't in common use of the time. Now they are.

They still aren't. Only a minority actually owns them. But a portion of the most violent murderers on teh planet in the United States do own them and use them so the Cops had to convert to them as well. The cops found that with their standard sidearms, shotguns and Model 70s, they were severely outgunned and had to uparm. Even today, there are many more conventional firearms than ARs in the average home. But when you find an AR, you often times find a Cache of ARs so the numbers look different unless you look at it that way.

Here is a good question. Why would I need 14 or more ARs like some do have? Why would I have even 5 Model 70 (or that type) of hunting rifles unless they were of a different caliber? Would I own 15 Model 700BDL 308s? But it appears there are enough AR owners out there with multiple ARs that that squew the percentages and you gunnutters try and misrepresent those figures. That used to work but more and more regular people are seeing through your BS because everyone elses lives depend on it.

They are the most popular widely used rifle in America.

I think the Ruger 10-22 is actually the most popular rifle in America.

Modern Sporting Rifle: Introduction • NSSF
The term “modern sporting rifle” was coined to describe today’s very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring. These rifles are used by hunters, competitors, a lot of Americans seeking home-defense guns and by many others who simply enjoy going to the range.
Modern Sporting Rifle Facts

• Modern sporting rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold today.
• The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.

Not disagreeing, just pointing out that the 10-22, also a semi-auto, is the most popular rifle in America. Bet you own one. Accurate, reliable, cheap to shoot.

Ruger 10/22 - Wikipedia

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The reason they were banned 10 years ago was that they weren't in common use of the time. Now they are.

They still aren't. Only a minority actually owns them. But a portion of the most violent murderers on teh planet in the United States do own them and use them so the Cops had to convert to them as well. The cops found that with their standard sidearms, shotguns and Model 70s, they were severely outgunned and had to uparm. Even today, there are many more conventional firearms than ARs in the average home. But when you find an AR, you often times find a Cache of ARs so the numbers look different unless you look at it that way.

Here is a good question. Why would I need 14 or more ARs like some do have? Why would I have even 5 Model 70 (or that type) of hunting rifles unless they were of a different caliber? Would I own 15 Model 700BDL 308s? But it appears there are enough AR owners out there with multiple ARs that that squew the percentages and you gunnutters try and misrepresent those figures. That used to work but more and more regular people are seeing through your BS because everyone elses lives depend on it.

They are the most popular widely used rifle in America.

I think the Ruger 10-22 is actually the most popular rifle in America.

Modern Sporting Rifle: Introduction • NSSF
The term “modern sporting rifle” was coined to describe today’s very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring. These rifles are used by hunters, competitors, a lot of Americans seeking home-defense guns and by many others who simply enjoy going to the range.
Modern Sporting Rifle Facts

• Modern sporting rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold today.
• The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.

Not disagreeing, just pointing out that the 10-22, also a semi-auto, is the most popular rifle in America. Bet you own one. Accurate, reliable, cheap to shoot.

Ruger 10/22 - Wikipedia

No that is one of the few guns I don't own. The smallest 22cal for me is an AR .223/5.56

 

[sparky]

How about 20th century U.S. Code?

You're talking the PA's specifics ,given martial law Red

~S~

 

[RealDave]

millions pf people use opioids.

and? where in the bill of rights is there a civil right to take any drug you want?

Where does it say I can't? Isn't that your argument on AR-15s

Where does it say you can?

Where does it say I can take an Aspirin?

Where does it say you can't?

exactly.