Bottom Line: The Left Believe the Declaration of Independence Is A Lie

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

 

[rightwinger]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

 

[rightwinger]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy is

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

dodge boy dodge

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy is

that one you knock foul
Yes they had a right to get pregnant but they did not have the right to end said pregnancy

 

[rightwinger]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

dodge boy dodge

You didn’t answer the question did you?

Why do you expect people to act and believe like they did 250 years ago?

So you are claiming anyone who does not support slavery, voting for land holders only and no women’s rights can’t really be a liberal?

 

[rightwinger]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy is

that one you knock foul
Yes they had a right to get pregnant but they did not have the right to end said pregnancy

Afraid they do

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

dodge boy dodge

You didn’t answer the question did you?

Why do you expect people to act and believe like they did 250 years ago?

So you are claiming anyone who does not support slavery, voting for land holders only and no women’s rights can’t really be a liberal?

I don't answer dodge questions

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy is

that one you knock foul
Yes they had a right to get pregnant but they did not have the right to end said pregnancy

Afraid they do

I'm afraid they DIDN'T

 

[rightwinger]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

dodge boy dodge

You didn’t answer the question did you?

Why do you expect people to act and believe like they did 250 years ago?

So you are claiming anyone who does not support slavery, voting for land holders only and no women’s rights can’t really be a liberal?

I don't answer dodge questions

Because you have no case

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

They believed in a right sized government as determined by We the People

A Government of the People, by the People and for the People

Actually you leftist have no resemblance to the founding fathers you are the total opposite

Not many people have a resemblance to people from 250 years ago

stop acting as if you are a liberal like the founders were you are a leftists communist maybe you think Stalin was the founder of your country

Who IS like people from 250 years ago?

dodge boy dodge

You didn’t answer the question did you?

Why do you expect people to act and believe like they did 250 years ago?

So you are claiming anyone who does not support slavery, voting for land holders only and no women’s rights can’t really be a liberal?

I don't answer dodge questions

Because you have no case

the one who dodges had no case

 

[daveman]

They would have informed on the Revolutionaries to the Crown.

The "conservatives" of the day, sided with the King- the liberals wanted a separate Country- albeit, they were classical liberals- the conservatives won, eventually, leaving us with a centralized power in DC with the Bill of Rights as the only concession they were willing to give into- they were called Federalist- the anti-federalist feared what we're now living- so, in political speak that is *status quo* (central authority from a distant location) and the Empty Suit Brigades in the Districts of Criminals around the Country are more than happy with it- including clowns on BOTH sides of the aisle, which exists purely for their entertainment and our division-

Conservatives today are classical liberals.

No, conservatives today are conservatives. Not whatever new retarded box you wish to put them in. You know shit. Stop talking.

you leftist love to redefine what something is even in the middle of a discussion
SO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP SNOWFLAKE.

Nah. I'm actually republican minded. Don't know what the fuck you believe you are.

I'm an observant person that has a very good memory and from what I remember about what you write is pure pro leftism

No, based on every contribution I've seen from a low IQ hayseed like you, you're a spectacularly dumb person. Not observant. A shit memory at best. A low down individual who is a follower of dumb conspiratorial shit that never did anything extraordinary in his miserable life.

Goodness, you leftists sure do like to project.

Not a leftist. Now your brainwashed narrative is shot to hell. What else do you want to throw at a wall and hope sticks?

Whoopty shit. You're still projecting.

 

[daveman]

it represents the lies you leftists tell yourselves.

LOL- I don't subscribe to the left/right paradigm- I subscribe to Individual Rights and effort- and what I posted is from the early 60's explaining NEO LIBERALISM- which has morphed into NEOCON which both sides subscribe to per the "policy's" invoked= world wide hegemony and colonization paid for by user fees (called taxes) through an unlimited credit card which BOTH sides use to "manage" our lives as they are told is fit- BOTH SIDES!

There is a reason the word Duopoly is used- one and the same policy wise- rhetoric is just that and used car salesmen use it all the time- it's called bullshit- so do politicians and alleged experts who deem themselves special at masters of some universe though that's never made clear which one-

You can deny all you want but the facts won't change- nor will your false bluster convince anyone- you aren't as well informed as you want to feel like you are- and denying the Truth will lead you nowhere fast.

That's nice. Go play.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They would have informed on the Revolutionaries to the Crown.

The "conservatives" of the day, sided with the King- the liberals wanted a separate Country- albeit, they were classical liberals- the conservatives won, eventually, leaving us with a centralized power in DC with the Bill of Rights as the only concession they were willing to give into- they were called Federalist- the anti-federalist feared what we're now living- so, in political speak that is *status quo* (central authority from a distant location) and the Empty Suit Brigades in the Districts of Criminals around the Country are more than happy with it- including clowns on BOTH sides of the aisle, which exists purely for their entertainment and our division-

Conservatives today are classical liberals.

No, conservatives today are conservatives. Not whatever new retarded box you wish to put them in. You know shit. Stop talking.

you leftist love to redefine what something is even in the middle of a discussion
SO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP SNOWFLAKE.

Nah. I'm actually republican minded. Don't know what the fuck you believe you are.

I'm an observant person that has a very good memory and from what I remember about what you write is pure pro leftism

No, based on every contribution I've seen from a low IQ hayseed like you, you're a spectacularly dumb person. Not observant. A shit memory at best. A low down individual who is a follower of dumb conspiratorial shit that never did anything extraordinary in his miserable life.

Goodness, you leftists sure do like to project.

Not a leftist. Now your brainwashed narrative is shot to hell. What else do you want to throw at a wall and hope sticks?

Whoopty shit. You're still projecting.

the dead weed doesn't understand every issue he comes out in support of is a leftists issue. He can play the chickenshit game and claim to be something but you are what you support.

 

[bendog]

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

The Left WROTE The Declaration of Independence

I would largely agree with that, however, the "left" of those days has little in common with any of you.

How much do people of those times have in common with people of today?

A liberal is still a liberal
They look at the challenges of their time and try to improve them

Those liberals believed in limited government involvement in private lives
You leftists can't do that

There was no discussion of limiting abortion as it was practiced in 1776. So it cuts both ways. But the founders were social libertarians who limited voting to male property owners and approved of slavery.

It may have been practiced but abortion wasn't a right.

It only came into question when non-liberals in the gop made it illegal. Which is the point. Saying dems are "not the real libs" is bs. Both parties have positions that are inconsistent with personal liberty and expecting govt to limit it's forays into restricting them.

And frankly the Xian governing folks aren't really conservative either. They weren't conservatives when they moved to restrict personal liberty in the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, and they sure aren't now because they want an activist court to push their agenda.

Abortion was never a right

Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy is

that one you knock foul
Yes they had a right to get pregnant but they did not have the right to end said pregnancy

Afraid they do

I'm afraid they DIDN'T

I think you bring up the central issue. The pro-Roe view would be that women always had a fundamental const right to end a pregnancy. The Founders did not express any view. And the fact is that right now women do have that right.

Barrett will probably join with a at least 4 other gop justices who were confirmed for pretty much just the purpose to overrle Roe. But what then? Following what I think is your view of "when a person for constitutional purposes begins to exist" it seems states could ban IUDs and abortion pills. IF so, we're back at the original point leading to cases of fundamental rights to control our own procreation, and Griswold would no longer prohibit a state for outlawing what most people see as basic contraception.

That's why imo reversing Roe has alaways been the Xian's white whale. Chasing something you really should not catch. Under the law as it is today, states can pretty much shut down poor women's access to abortion clinics. Affluent women always can, AND ALWAYS HAVE, accessed abortion. And I suspect the Xian pols like Trump and McConnell are ok with keeping it that way.

But if the Xians go after Iuds and abortion pills, the dems will have a field day.