Both Sides of the Gun Debate Need to Listen to This

[Geaux4it]

and comments from both side are welcome

-Geaux

 

[Flash]

1. Background checks never work.

2. Gun control regulations never work.

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

4. The crime should never be the possession of a firearm but the crime done with the firearm.

5. Liberals are assholes in their oppressive vile zeal to take away other people's Constitutional rights.

 

[Geaux4it]

^^^ Agreed^^^^

Dude left the city council speechless

-Geaux

 

[Penelope]

Has not changed my mind.

 

[Geaux4it]

Has not changed my mind.

^^^ I'm cool with that^^^^

I liked his comment we are the first to be taxed and the last considered

-Geaux

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Has not changed my mind.

don't expect it to...

 

[Flash]

Here is somebody else that knocked it out of the park. The Governor of Kentucky. It is not about gun control it is about controlling morals.

 

[alang1216]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

 

[Flash]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

 

[alang1216]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

 

[iceberg]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

something tells me you still wouldn't know.

 

[alang1216]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

something tells me you still wouldn't know.

You're probably right but it appears I'm in good company, no one else seems to know either.

 

[Flash]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

Yes I do. My 24 AR-15s are all "arms". So is my FAL, two MIAs, AR-10, M-1 Carbine, M-1 Garand and the other couple of dozen firearms I own. Looks like you are the one having a difficult time with it.

 

[Flash]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

something tells me you still wouldn't know.

These Moon Bats have trouble with a lot of things when it comes to the Bill of Rights.

 

[alang1216]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

Yes I do. My 24 AR-15s are all "arms". So is my FAL, two MIAs, AR-10, M-1 Carbine, M-1 Garand and the other couple of dozen firearms I own. Looks like you are the one having a difficult time with it.

Can you provide a definition of 'arms'? You just gave me some examples so I'm thinking I'm right that an 'arm' is subjective and akin to pornography and so cannot be defined.

 

[2aguy]

and comments from both side are welcome

-Geaux

Yeah...he is a hero in gun circles today....

 

[hunarcy]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

Yes I do. My 24 AR-15s are all "arms". So is my FAL, two MIAs, AR-10, M-1 Carbine, M-1 Garand and the other couple of dozen firearms I own. Looks like you are the one having a difficult time with it.

Can you provide a definition of 'arms'? You just gave me some examples so I'm thinking I'm right that an 'arm' is subjective and akin to pornography and so cannot be defined.

I know I'm wasting my time, and playing into your trolling game, but arms are weapons and ammunition; armaments.

 

[miketx]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

 

[2aguy]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

I will let Justice Scalia explain it to you...

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

b. “Keep and bear Arms.”

We move now from the holder of the right—“the people”—to the substance of the right: “to keep and bear Arms.”

Before addressing the verbs “keep” and “bear,” we interpret their object: “Arms.” The 18th-century meaning is no different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of Samuel Johnson’s dictionary defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

1 Dictionary of the English Language 107 (4th ed.) (hereinafter Johnson). Timothy Cunningham’s important 1771 legal dictionary defined “arms” as “any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.” 1 A New and Complete Law Dictionary (1771); see also N. Webster, American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) (reprinted 1989) (hereinafter Webster) (similar).

The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity. For instance, Cunningham’s legal dictionary gave as an example of usage: “Servants and labourers shall use bows and arrows on Sundays, &c. and not bear other arms.” See also, e.g., An Act for the trial of Negroes, 1797 Del. Laws ch. XLIII, §6, p. 104, in 1 First Laws of the State of Delaware 102, 104 (J. Cushing ed. 1981 (pt. 1)); see generally State v. Duke, 42 Tex. 455, 458 (1874) (citing decisions of state courts construing “arms”).

Although one founding-era thesaurus limited “arms” (as opposed to “weapons”) to “instruments of offence generally made use of in war,” even that source stated that all firearms constituted “arms.” 1

J. Trusler, The Distinction Between Words Esteemed Synonymous in the English Language 37 (1794) (emphasis added).


Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

 

[there4eyeM]

So, as long as a person has some arms to bear, the 'right' is preserved, logically.