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my answers/comments in bold:
I have my own questions.
Europe and the Liberals in this Country have for years demanded Israel get out of ALL "occupied" territory. True or False?
false. I have never once heard anyone in any position of power in my party DEMAND Israel get out of all occupied territories.... and I really have no control nor little interest in what Europeans have to say about it...they are the folks who put Jews in Ghettos for a millennium and then gassed and burned millions of them. Why should Israel listen for a minute to them (they don't by the way) and why should I give a shit about what a bunch of Europeans have to say about Israel in the first place?
Jimmy " the savior" Carter made a plan to turn over all of the occuppied territory to Palestinian control. True or False?
true, based upon certain conditions, which the Palestinians have never come close to meeting
Every "Road Map" since has included the intent to have Israel withdraw from all "occupied" territory. True or False?
true, based upon certain conditions which the Palestinians have never come close to meeting
Arafat DEMANDED the Israel's get out. True or False?
He ONCE demanded that, but in the '93 Oslo Accords withdrew that demand
Israel is condemned daily by Europe and the Liberals in the US for not giving the Palestinians their own Country. True or False?
Europe? I have no fucking idea, and, unless you routinely keep up to date on the European press coverage, neither do you. Liberals in America know -like Yitshak Rabin knew - that peace in the area will never be achieved as long as the residents of the West Bank and Gaza are held in some permanent inferior status... and annexation is foolhardy.
The excuse used when Europeans "support" Palestinian terror is that Israel causes it by "occupying" land that doesn't belong to Israel. True or False?
False.... do you have any links that would indicate that any European government feels that way? The fact is, however, that the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza - populated almost entirely by Palestinians - is not the best way to try and convince Palestinians to stop attacking you
I suggest all these are "True". So now explain again WHY, when Israel did what they were being told to do, it is STILL their fault that the savages that live there can not get along?
Israel has NEVER done what they were "being told to do" unless Israel believed that such actions were in its enlightened self interest. Sharon left the Gaza unilaterally on his volition before any deal could be hammered out.... which I applauded at the time, but realize now that until the Hamas/Fatah internecine struggle had been settled, leaving Gaza without a strong civil/military law enforcement presence has been a recipe for disaster
Maineman you insist over and over that Iraq can never work. Why is it different in "palestine"? Your party wants to run Israel into the dirt AND then condemn them for doing what the Liberals told them to do.
I disagree with your premise. You clearly have no real idea what the democratic party position is on Israel...and again.... I am the most pro-Israeli person I know, so you are barking up the wrong tree
Just admit it.... to a Liberal , when something doesn't work it is always someone elses fault. Liberals are never wrong and never to blame, never accountable for their actions.
I will admit that you are a blowhard...and your "liberals never" and liberals always" bloviated rhetoric is as irrelevant and vacuous as RSR's
If we should not be in Iraq, why should Israel be responsible for stopping the bloodshed in "palestine"?
No one said they should be solely responsible, but as I have explained above, they need to understand - and many of them do and have for some time - that their occupation of the Wet Bank and the Gaza Strip is not conducive to their long term security.