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Here's what happens when affirmative action backfires... City's expensive lesson - Buffalo News editorials - The Buffalo News
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Here's what happens when affirmative action backfires... City's expensive lesson - Buffalo News editorials - The Buffalo News
More affirmative action. Blacks are always at the bottom of every test whether it's an IQ test or the SAT or ACT or LSAT or police test or firefighter test. They can't make it on ability .
Boston Police Department planning new promotion system to spur diversity - The Boston Globe
Police to overhaul ranking system
Globe Correspondent / August 9, 2012
Hoping to end decades of tension over the advancement of minority officers, the Boston Police Department plans to overhaul a promotion system that has been criticized for contributing to a lack of diversity in the departments upper ranks.
Commissioner Edward F. Davis is expected to send an e-mail to officers and command staff Thursday announcing a $2.2 million initiative to *replace a written promotion *exam used statewide with a testing system that could *include interviews and other components designed to provide a broader measure of leadership and potential.
Among the departments approx*imately two dozen captains the highest rank determined by the promotion exam there is one Asian and no blacks, Hispanics, or women.
They ASKED for advance notice. Thats what they were originally asking for. I assume it's department policy to post position openings and test dates, so clearly department heads were already breaking the rules and not complying. This has been going on for over a year, at the end of the year they decided to add other components to the written test, to combat issues of unfairness in specific departments.
I don't know how important these tests are, but I do think that just because someone can't pass a test, doesn't mean they won't be a decent copper.
Maybe Afros have some quality to make up for their lack of police knowledge? Like what, an affinity for smoking crack and yelling racism?
And recent studies show the SAT is flawed also. Proven fact that the rote study guide memorizing of multiple choice questions given by Kaplan and other "coaching" clinics increases the scores. Those that have the cash to spend on the coaching classes, nothing about really learning a damn thing, increases the scores.
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So preparing for the SAT increases your score?? Of course that's true of all tests. That's not a flaw. And you don't have to pay for coaching . Tons of SAT prep books on the market for $20 or you can buy one at a thrift store for $3 or get one for free at the library.
Multiple choice questions are the lazy teacher's way of teaching. Field work and experience along with teaching officers HOW, WHY, WHAT, WHEN AND WHERE.
Attitude, diligence, perserverance, determination and dedication should all come before test scores.
We had a health wellness study that the health insurance carrier of our county performed for The Board of Commissioners. Of course the county employees were pissed about having to be accountable to anyone. 55% of them were over weight, over 60% in the Sherrifs Department were over weight and over 65% of the street patrol officers were over weight.
But they test real well.
Out of 2 dozen captains there is only one Asian, no blacks, hispanics or women? Whats wrong with that test if only one Asian has been able to pass, no blacks, hispanics or women?
More affirmative action. Blacks are always at the bottom of every test whether it's an IQ test or the SAT or ACT or LSAT or police test or firefighter test. They can't make it on ability .
Boston Police Department planning new promotion system to spur diversity - The Boston Globe
Police to overhaul ranking system
Globe Correspondent / August 9, 2012
Hoping to end decades of tension over the advancement of minority officers, the Boston Police Department plans to overhaul a promotion system that has been criticized for contributing to a lack of diversity in the departments upper ranks.
Commissioner Edward F. Davis is expected to send an e-mail to officers and command staff Thursday announcing a $2.2 million initiative to *replace a written promotion *exam used statewide with a testing system that could *include interviews and other components designed to provide a broader measure of leadership and potential.
Among the departments approx*imately two dozen captains the highest rank determined by the promotion exam there is one Asian and no blacks, Hispanics, or women.
I don't know how important these tests are, but I do think that just because someone can't pass a test, doesn't mean they won't be a decent copper.
More affirmative action. Blacks are always at the bottom of every test whether it's an IQ test or the SAT or ACT or LSAT or police test or firefighter test. They can't make it on ability .
I don't know how important these tests are, but I do think that just because someone can't pass a test, doesn't mean they won't be a decent copper.
Standards are unimportant. Especially if everyone does not live up to those standards. Simply lower the standard. Great idea.
I don't know how important these tests are, but I do think that just because someone can't pass a test, doesn't mean they won't be a decent copper.
Standards are unimportant. Especially if everyone does not live up to those standards. Simply lower the standard. Great idea.
^^either didnt read the thread, or is a racist.
So, I took 2 seconds to google this story. The issue with the test, apparently, is that minorities are not being informed of open positions in higher ranks and are not being given the same time to prep for the written test that white male officers are. They claim that only those in a select group are even being offered those positions. It has come to city attention because of recent issues of police struggling to get cooperation in minority neighborhood or being able to communicate with minorites because all of the officers are white men.
So sad to burst your bubble, but women and blacks are not just naturally stupider then white men.
So, I took 2 seconds to google this story. The issue with the test, apparently, is that minorities are not being informed of open positions in higher ranks and are not being given the same time to prep for the written test that white male officers are. They claim that only those in a select group are even being offered those positions. It has come to city attention because of recent issues of police struggling to get cooperation in minority neighborhood or being able to communicate with minorites because all of the officers are white men.
So sad to burst your bubble, but women and blacks are not just naturally stupider then white men.
So, I took 2 seconds to google this story. The issue with the test, apparently, is that minorities are not being informed of open positions in higher ranks and are not being given the same time to prep for the written test that white male officers are. They claim that only those in a select group are even being offered those positions. It has come to city attention because of recent issues of police struggling to get cooperation in minority neighborhood or being able to communicate with minorites because all of the officers are white men.
So sad to burst your bubble, but women and blacks are not just naturally stupider then white men.
Two questions. First, how is it that whites are "being informed of open positions in higher ranks" and minorities are not?
Second, if that is the problem, that minorities are not being as much prep time as whites, why not address that? Why change the standards, and not simply continue with the test? Just make sure that women, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homos, and all other minorities have equal time to study as white men?
My guess? The excuses given are complete bullshit.
So, I took 2 seconds to google this story. The issue with the test, apparently, is that minorities are not being informed of open positions in higher ranks and are not being given the same time to prep for the written test that white male officers are. They claim that only those in a select group are even being offered those positions. It has come to city attention because of recent issues of police struggling to get cooperation in minority neighborhood or being able to communicate with minorites because all of the officers are white men.
So sad to burst your bubble, but women and blacks are not just naturally stupider then white men.
Two questions. First, how is it that whites are "being informed of open positions in higher ranks" and minorities are not?
Second, if that is the problem, that minorities are not being as much prep time as whites, why not address that? Why change the standards, and not simply continue with the test? Just make sure that women, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homos, and all other minorities have equal time to study as white men?
My guess? The excuses given are complete bullshit.
My guess, you didnt read the rest of the thread.
I already answered these questions but will answer again, for you.
The positions are not being posted in a timely fashion if they are posted at all, same goes for test times. Only a select few officers( all white men) are being given the option to take the test.
2nd, they ASKED, let me repeat, they ASKED to be informed beforehand, of open positions and test times. That was the request, a year ago. Cut to a year later, and shockingly, simply telling department heads that they cant tell their buddies when the tests are but not inform everyone else, didnt work. SO the Chief decided to ADD to the written test, other componets to help combat the favoritism in the departments.
Of the departments captains, the next highest rank, only one of 23 is black.
Two questions. First, how is it that whites are "being informed of open positions in higher ranks" and minorities are not?
Second, if that is the problem, that minorities are not being as much prep time as whites, why not address that? Why change the standards, and not simply continue with the test? Just make sure that women, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homos, and all other minorities have equal time to study as white men?
My guess? The excuses given are complete bullshit.
My guess, you didnt read the rest of the thread.
I already answered these questions but will answer again, for you.
The positions are not being posted in a timely fashion if they are posted at all, same goes for test times. Only a select few officers( all white men) are being given the option to take the test.
2nd, they ASKED, let me repeat, they ASKED to be informed beforehand, of open positions and test times. That was the request, a year ago. Cut to a year later, and shockingly, simply telling department heads that they cant tell their buddies when the tests are but not inform everyone else, didnt work. SO the Chief decided to ADD to the written test, other componets to help combat the favoritism in the departments.
I have read several stories on this and NONE make any reference to postings. Post a link to your source or be proven a liar. Here's another article I read:
Of the departments captains, the next highest rank, only one of 23 is black.
Minority Boston Police Officers Sue Over Promotion Exam | WBUR
The article in the OP says none are black. Who are we supposed to believe? Of course it helps if you understand the fact that the Globe is a left leaning POS rag....
My guess, you didnt read the rest of the thread.
I already answered these questions but will answer again, for you.
The positions are not being posted in a timely fashion if they are posted at all, same goes for test times. Only a select few officers( all white men) are being given the option to take the test.
2nd, they ASKED, let me repeat, they ASKED to be informed beforehand, of open positions and test times. That was the request, a year ago. Cut to a year later, and shockingly, simply telling department heads that they cant tell their buddies when the tests are but not inform everyone else, didnt work. SO the Chief decided to ADD to the written test, other componets to help combat the favoritism in the departments.
I have read several stories on this and NONE make any reference to postings. Post a link to your source or be proven a liar. Here's another article I read:
Of the departments captains, the next highest rank, only one of 23 is black.
Minority Boston Police Officers Sue Over Promotion Exam | WBUR
The article in the OP says none are black. Who are we supposed to believe? Of course it helps if you understand the fact that the Globe is a left leaning POS rag....
Read the thread, I already posted my links.
I have read several stories on this and NONE make any reference to postings. Post a link to your source or be proven a liar. Here's another article I read:
Minority Boston Police Officers Sue Over Promotion Exam | WBUR
The article in the OP says none are black. Who are we supposed to believe? Of course it helps if you understand the fact that the Globe is a left leaning POS rag....
Read the thread, I already posted my links.
Right- I've read that story now. The Global Ministries Christian Church is a highly regarded news source indeed. It's kind of ironic that no other news source is reporting that little tidbit. Of course you choose not to address the point that standards are being lowered all over the country for the sake of diversity.......