Shut it down. When the senate grows a pair and decides to make cuts then maybe they can reopen.
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The Democratic Senate want to bargain before they put a proposal on the table. If a shut down occurs it is on the head of the Dems who want to bargain with nothing on the table.
Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
Partisanship is dumb. Rs and Ds are equally stupid to those who don't wear blinders. As I just mentioned to someone else, the more the Rs and Ds play games, the more nothing ever really changes, so a bunch of us can get at least a vacation out of it. Just in time for the nice weather, too.
Something sinister in me tells me that they work together and take turns who looks bad and who takes elections. I honestly feel like the R's are being so corny and glib that they want Obama to win 2012.
I don't really think so.
Both are in the pockets of business. But one wants a little something for the working guy too. The other does not.
Personally, I all for true fiscal conservatism. It's not that at this point.It had an altruistic start, I think. I was enthusiastic, but not so much now for the partisanship reason. They allowed themselves to become just another tool in the game.That's why I wish the Tea Party was real and not another branch of Partisanship. We need something better than that.
My problem with it was that they were blatant Conservatives, based on everything I heard coming from them. Just because they seperated from Republicans didn't mean I was going to buy the ruse that they weren't born out of Partisanship.
I could have broken my ego (I have half and half views) and supported it and tried to make it more independant from the inside (In my opinion making it more powerful), but once I heard the Becks and the Palins and shit trying to pull the sleight of hand trick and become the "face," I said yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeert. Nope.
Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
He's not stupid..and he's sweating bullets. This is basically "the sum of all his fears.."
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
He's not stupid..and he's sweating bullets. This is basically "the sum of all his fears.."
If they shut down, he is really gonna cry.
Does the phrase 'balance of power' mean anything to you?The Democratic Senate want to bargain before they put a proposal on the table. If a shut down occurs it is on the head of the Dems who want to bargain with nothing on the table.
Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
He's not stupid..and he's sweating bullets. This is basically "the sum of all his fears.."
Something sinister in me tells me that they work together and take turns who looks bad and who takes elections. I honestly feel like the R's are being so corny and glib that they want Obama to win 2012.
I don't really think so.
Both are in the pockets of business. But one wants a little something for the working guy too. The other does not.
One postures that way before Elections anyway. I'm not inclined to believe it until I see it.
Did we get better healthcare, or did we prop insurance co's up further?
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
He's not stupid..and he's sweating bullets. This is basically "the sum of all his fears.."
He has another issue to deal with. Eric Cantor wants his job so badly, he's salivating. Boehner needs to stomp on his neck and embarrass him or he's going to find himself displaced.
The "new" conservative GOP is driving this shutdown. If it occcurs, they will be held responsible by the voters. Heading into the 2012 election cycle, it is a risky play, but one which I hope Boehner is willing to try out.
He's not stupid..and he's sweating bullets. This is basically "the sum of all his fears.."
He has another issue to deal with. Eric Cantor wants his job so badly, he's salivating. Boehner needs to stomp on his neck and embarrass him or he's going to find himself displaced.
Using the term 'balance of power' is spin to you, eh?Does the phrase 'balance of power' mean anything to you?Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
It's all about how they are perceived, neither you nor your party seems to understand this. If it shuts down, great! History repeats itself.
All of your spin can't change the fact that perception is everything. The GOP/Teaparty will take the hit.
I don't really think so.
Both are in the pockets of business. But one wants a little something for the working guy too. The other does not.
One postures that way before Elections anyway. I'm not inclined to believe it until I see it.
Did we get better healthcare, or did we prop insurance co's up further?
I think it is far better. The fact that HMOs can't boot you for getting sick or impose life time limits was excellent.
This is where you went wrong and/or are delusional. To the unbiased eye...they always were a partisan tool. At no point of this current crop of Tea Party were they not Republicans in disguise. The mere fact that the real Tea Party were ignored during the Bush Regime and then suddenly rose to prominence the instant Barak Obama came to office sums it up. It was always in front of you, plain as day to see. I'm not sure why any thinking individual would be surprised at the outcome.It had an altruistic start, I think. I was enthusiastic, but not so much now for the partisanship reason. They allowed themselves to become just another tool in the game.And, more of us become aware of the crap and realize that partisan views are not useful any longer.
That's why I wish the Tea Party was real and not another branch of Partisanship. We need something better than that.
Right you are. However, they deserve it as well. It's not just all about perception. The Republicans have at least 2 of their leaders on record publicly and adamantly promoting the looming shutdown. We're talking Boehner and Spence. That says it all. The voters aren't fools...well, won't be once they feel the sting after the shutdown. The voting public will suddenly snap out of it and come to their senses once they feel the consequences of their actions aka voting those bastards in last year.Does the phrase 'balance of power' mean anything to you?Sorry, it's not on the head of the Dems. The House leadership will take the hit because they couldn't figure out how to stop the shutdown.
It's all about how they are perceived, neither you nor your party seems to understand this. If it shuts down, great! History repeats itself.
All of your spin can't change the fact that perception is everything. The GOP/Teaparty will take the hit.
Bring it on liberals!The voters are tired of democRAT liberals putting us trillions in debt.House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on Monday told fellow Republicans to prepare for a government shutdown
Boehner tells Republicans to gird for shutdown - Yahoo! News
They could start with cutting their own salaries and government health care.
If it happens I wonder if this one will be more successful than Newt Gingrich's shut down? The electorate was wanting to string old Newt and the GOP up.
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Monthly Revenue and you leftist twits are screaming about the Government being shut down LOL OMG when are you folks going to wake up and realize the throat your cutting is your own. 14 trillion in debt thus far laid at the feet of our Children ya that's something to be extremely proud of.
Go ahead and explain how shutting it down is really a bad thing
Monthly Revenue and you leftist twits are screaming about the Government being shut down LOL OMG when are you folks going to wake up and realize the throat your cutting is your own. 14 trillion in debt thus far laid at the feet of our Children ya that's something to be extremely proud of.
Go ahead and explain how shutting it down is really a bad thing
I have to wonder who is delusional. Boehner was quoted yesterday as saying the shutdown does nobody good. I disagree with him and others who have said the same. Consistent nice weather is almost here in the metro area.This is where you went wrong and/or are delusional. To the unbiased eye...they always were a partisan tool. At no point of this current crop of Tea Party were they not Republicans in disguise. The mere fact that the real Tea Party were ignored during the Bush Regime and then suddenly rose to prominence the instant Barak Obama came to office sums it up. It was always in front of you, plain as day to see. I'm not sure why any thinking individual would be surprised at the outcome.It had an altruistic start, I think. I was enthusiastic, but not so much now for the partisanship reason. They allowed themselves to become just another tool in the game.That's why I wish the Tea Party was real and not another branch of Partisanship. We need something better than that.
Right you are. However, they deserve it as well. It's not just all about perception. The Republicans have at least 2 of their leaders on record publicly and adamantly promoting the looming shutdown. We're talking Boehner and Spence. That says it all. The voters aren't fools...well, won't be once they feel the sting after the shutdown. The voting public will suddenly snap out of it and come to their senses once they feel the consequences of their actions aka voting those bastards in last year.Does the phrase 'balance of power' mean anything to you?
It's all about how they are perceived, neither you nor your party seems to understand this. If it shuts down, great! History repeats itself.
All of your spin can't change the fact that perception is everything. The GOP/Teaparty will take the hit.