Bigot starts ground zero church: Where's the outrage?

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Bigot starts ground zero church: Where's the outrage? - War Room - Salon.com
A pastor who hates Muslims, Mormons and gays will start preaching Sunday. Will mosque opponents speak out?
BY JUSTIN ELLIOTT

A bigoted pastor who has assailed gays and Muslims is launching the "9-11 Christian Center at Ground Zero" a mere two blocks from the World Trade Center site this Sunday, but so far the project hasn't drawn a peep of protest from those who are outraged by the "ground zero mosque."

Pastor Bill Keller of Florida said today he will begin preaching Sunday at the Marriott at 85 West Street (see proximity to ground zero here). A weekly service is planned at the hotel until the $8 million 9/11 Christian Center finds a permanent space. (Fundraising is going well, Keller told Salon today.)

To get a sense of where Keller is coming from, consider his project's website, which calls Islam a religion of "hate and death" whose adherents will go to hell. It also says: "Islam is a wonderful religion... for PEDOPHILES!"

Keller is the same pastor who hosted a birther infomercial that encouraged viewers to send him and a partner donations to advance the birther cause. His Internet ministry explicitly calls President Obama the new Hitler. He calls homosexuality a perversion. And in 2008, he targeted presidential contender Mitt Romney for being Mormon with a campaign called "voting for Satan."

In short, if critics of the Park51 Islamic community center, which is explicitly welcoming of all faiths, truly believe that there is a "zone of solemnity" around ground zero (as Gov. Pat Quinn put it), they should be horrified at Keller's 9/11 Christian Center.

Ditto for those who believe that religious leaders should not build "deliberately provocative" projects around ground zero, as another mosque opponent put it.
 
Bigot starts ground zero church: Where's the outrage? - War Room - Salon.com
A pastor who hates Muslims, Mormons and gays will start preaching Sunday. Will mosque opponents speak out?
BY JUSTIN ELLIOTT

A bigoted pastor who has assailed gays and Muslims is launching the "9-11 Christian Center at Ground Zero" a mere two blocks from the World Trade Center site this Sunday, but so far the project hasn't drawn a peep of protest from those who are outraged by the "ground zero mosque."

Pastor Bill Keller of Florida said today he will begin preaching Sunday at the Marriott at 85 West Street (see proximity to ground zero here). A weekly service is planned at the hotel until the $8 million 9/11 Christian Center finds a permanent space. (Fundraising is going well, Keller told Salon today.)

To get a sense of where Keller is coming from, consider his project's website, which calls Islam a religion of "hate and death" whose adherents will go to hell. It also says: "Islam is a wonderful religion... for PEDOPHILES!"

Keller is the same pastor who hosted a birther infomercial that encouraged viewers to send him and a partner donations to advance the birther cause. His Internet ministry explicitly calls President Obama the new Hitler. He calls homosexuality a perversion. And in 2008, he targeted presidential contender Mitt Romney for being Mormon with a campaign called "voting for Satan."

In short, if critics of the Park51 Islamic community center, which is explicitly welcoming of all faiths, truly believe that there is a "zone of solemnity" around ground zero (as Gov. Pat Quinn put it), they should be horrified at Keller's 9/11 Christian Center.

Ditto for those who believe that religious leaders should not build "deliberately provocative" projects around ground zero, as another mosque opponent put it.
They aren't going to protest because many of those that oppose the building of the community center are bigots. They can not strike back at the terrorist so in their mind they are doing the next best thing. They are striking back at Muslims in their community. I feel sorry for them because they are aiding the enemy as surely as if they were sending dollars to support Al Qaeda.
 
Bigot starts ground zero church: Where's the outrage? - War Room - Salon.com
A pastor who hates Muslims, Mormons and gays will start preaching Sunday. Will mosque opponents speak out?
BY JUSTIN ELLIOTT

A bigoted pastor who has assailed gays and Muslims is launching the "9-11 Christian Center at Ground Zero" a mere two blocks from the World Trade Center site this Sunday, but so far the project hasn't drawn a peep of protest from those who are outraged by the "ground zero mosque."

Pastor Bill Keller of Florida said today he will begin preaching Sunday at the Marriott at 85 West Street (see proximity to ground zero here). A weekly service is planned at the hotel until the $8 million 9/11 Christian Center finds a permanent space. (Fundraising is going well, Keller told Salon today.)

To get a sense of where Keller is coming from, consider his project's website, which calls Islam a religion of "hate and death" whose adherents will go to hell. It also says: "Islam is a wonderful religion... for PEDOPHILES!"

Keller is the same pastor who hosted a birther infomercial that encouraged viewers to send him and a partner donations to advance the birther cause. His Internet ministry explicitly calls President Obama the new Hitler. He calls homosexuality a perversion. And in 2008, he targeted presidential contender Mitt Romney for being Mormon with a campaign called "voting for Satan."

In short, if critics of the Park51 Islamic community center, which is explicitly welcoming of all faiths, truly believe that there is a "zone of solemnity" around ground zero (as Gov. Pat Quinn put it), they should be horrified at Keller's 9/11 Christian Center.

Ditto for those who believe that religious leaders should not build "deliberately provocative" projects around ground zero, as another mosque opponent put it.
They aren't going to protest because many of those that oppose the building of the community center are bigots. They can not strike back at the terrorist so in their mind they are doing the next best thing. They are striking back at Muslims in their community. I feel sorry for them because they are aiding the enemy as surely as if they were sending dollars to support Al Qaeda.

Did this guy, or his followers, or even other adherents of his "religion of peace and tolerance," fly any planes into the WTC at any point?
 
Don't the left keep telling us we have to be tolerant. Can't have it both ways.
And by the same "logic," since CON$ervoFascism preaches intolerance CON$ CAN have it both ways!
BRILLIANT!

hey, listen up, fuckface.

The ground zero mosque is receiving city permits faster than St. Nicholas church which was destroyed on 9/11 has been trying to get the permit to rebuild for 9 years now. This is "correct" ?
 
One would think that the left would at least try to think through the straws they grasp at. Rather, one could hope that might happen.
 
Don't the left keep telling us we have to be tolerant. Can't have it both ways.
And by the same "logic," since CON$ervoFascism preaches intolerance CON$ CAN have it both ways!
BRILLIANT!

hey, listen up, fuckface.

The ground zero mosque is receiving city permits faster than St. Nicholas church which was destroyed on 9/11 has been trying to get the permit to rebuild for 9 years now. This is "correct" ?
That is not "correct."

The community center is being built in accordance with the zoning laws and building codes, the church is not!!!! The church has had several opportunities to conform to the codes but they refuse to.
 
And by the same "logic," since CON$ervoFascism preaches intolerance CON$ CAN have it both ways!
BRILLIANT!

hey, listen up, fuckface.

The ground zero mosque is receiving city permits faster than St. Nicholas church which was destroyed on 9/11 has been trying to get the permit to rebuild for 9 years now. This is "correct" ?
That is not "correct."

The community center is being built in accordance with the zoning laws and building codes, the church is not!!!! The church has had several opportunities to conform to the codes but they refuse to.
please provide proof of this
 
hey, listen up, fuckface.

The ground zero mosque is receiving city permits faster than St. Nicholas church which was destroyed on 9/11 has been trying to get the permit to rebuild for 9 years now. This is "correct" ?
That is not "correct."

The community center is being built in accordance with the zoning laws and building codes, the church is not!!!! The church has had several opportunities to conform to the codes but they refuse to.
please provide proof of this

It's in here.

school-choice-the-proof-is-in-the-pudding.jpg
 
That is not "correct."

The community center is being built in accordance with the zoning laws and building codes, the church is not!!!! The church has had several opportunities to conform to the codes but they refuse to.
please provide proof of this

It's in here.

school-choice-the-proof-is-in-the-pudding.jpg
i know
i've read up on this church and the problem is the city and the PA wanting to tell this church HOW they can rebuild and where
 
It's in here.

school-choice-the-proof-is-in-the-pudding.jpg
i know
i've read up on this church and the problem is the city and the PA wanting to tell this church HOW they can rebuild and where
"please provide proof of this" :lol:
no problem
might take some time to dig them up AGAIN, i posted them in another thread on the GZ Mosque
but i know it would be difficult to find them now as those threads are a mess
so if you'll be patient i will look for them again
 
wow, was easier than i thought it would be

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/nyregion/24greek.html?_r=1

its on the lower part of the story
From your link:
Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority, said there was never any doubt that the church would be rebuilt. In 2008, the authority agreed to accommodate a 24,000-square-foot church building just east of St. Nicholas’s original location on Cedar Street, and promised $20 million to subsidize construction. But the following year, he said, final negotiations broke down over the precise siting and size of the building.

From the same source for consistency:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/nyregion/03trade.html

The church has for several years wanted to build the new St. Nicholas a block northeast of its original home on Cedar Street. But doing so would require trading land with the Port Authority, and an agreement has proven elusive. In the meantime, the church designed a domed marble complex that would be six times the size of its original home
 

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