Big Government, Socialism, and the VA

[Howey]

Well, when it comes to the VA my experience since 1968 when my brother and his Nam brothers came home and to date, the VA SUCKS.
Biggest problem I see are veterans that have not much wrong with them at all making excessive demands on the system. They need to stay home and let the vets with real problems get the care they deserve.

According to who? You??????

 

[NYcarbineer]

Woo ... you really, really are every bit as dim as you seem. None of those posts were authored by me but all had some valid points.
For instance, are you really pissed that "hundreds of thousands of Saddam's victims ... are not being subjected to his "rape rooms" or being thrown, bound and blindfolded, off of rooftops -- and who are not being fed, feet first, into plastic shredders and who are not getting gassed by Saddam for the sin of having been born a Kurd?"

lol, so posts where you thank the guy who's making the case for the justification for the war are what? Compliments for his good grammar?

lol, you people are all the same.

Such as the poster saying:

There will be times when strong, decisive military action will be the only realistic answer to rogue regimes, powers, whatever. The UN just doesn't have the necessary teeth to follow through.

Happily for the world, GW Bush had that capacity to inflict the necessary 'bite'. The result - even though people disagree as to the detail - is that the WMD situation actually, meaningfully, WAS neutralised in Iraq. Resolution of the issue was achieved.

and your reaction? A big Thank You!

You will note I give lots of thanks and indeed there are "times when strong, decisive military action will be the only realistic answer to rogue regimes, powers, whatever. The UN just doesn't have the necessary teeth to follow through."
Hell, I may even have thanked you on the rare occasion you've said something of value.

You cut out this part of the quote: GW Bush had that capacity to inflict the necessary 'bite'.


You claimed you opposed the Iraq war but every bit evidence available points to you having supported it. I don't care for people who try to shit on me but need to lie to do it.

 

[Contumacious]

You will note I give lots of thanks and indeed there are "times when strong, decisive military action will be the only realistic answer to rogue regimes, powers, whatever. The UN just doesn't have the necessary teeth to follow through."
Hell, I may even have thanked you on the rare occasion you've said something of value.

Are there "times when strong, decisive military action will be the only realistic answer to rogue regimes, powers, such as the US of A?

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[Gadawg73]

Well, when it comes to the VA my experience since 1968 when my brother and his Nam brothers came home and to date, the VA SUCKS.
Biggest problem I see are veterans that have not much wrong with them at all making excessive demands on the system. They need to stay home and let the vets with real problems get the care they deserve.

According to who? You??????

Correct, according to me. I have been taking my brother to VA hospitals since he moved here in 1979.
Veterans are teaching each other how to build their disability cases with paperwork and the paperwork starts with visits to the doctor as often as they can. This is exactly how it works in plaintiff's cases in the private sector with all the plaintiff's lawyers running ads on TV. Go to a VA waiting room and see all the vets there and talk to the doctors on this.

And if you really are interested in facts, but I doubt it, Google law firms representing veterans to file for disability. They are all over the internet because it is taboo to discuss this issue of veterans filing claims with not much of anything wrong with them.
The disability ratings system is outdated and based on a 3 tiered system of direct compensation, dependency and indemnity compensation and total disability based on individual unemployability.

Something has to be done as of now around 50% of all retiring and returning veterans are filing some form of disability claim.

A slap in the face to our veterans that truly need and deserve a quick resolution of their disability claim with approval, the care the deserve and money.

 

[Edgetho]

Well, when it comes to the VA my experience since 1968 when my brother and his Nam brothers came home and to date, the VA SUCKS.
Biggest problem I see are veterans that have not much wrong with them at all making excessive demands on the system. They need to stay home and let the vets with real problems get the care they deserve.

According to who? You??????

Correct, according to me. I have been taking my brother to VA hospitals since he moved here in 1979.
Veterans are teaching each other how to build their disability cases with paperwork and the paperwork starts with visits to the doctor as often as they can. This is exactly how it works in plaintiff's cases in the private sector with all the plaintiff's lawyers running ads on TV. Go to a VA waiting room and see all the vets there and talk to the doctors on this.

And if you really are interested in facts, but I doubt it, Google law firms representing veterans to file for disability. They are all over the internet because it is taboo to discuss this issue of veterans filing claims with not much of anything wrong with them.
The disability ratings system is outdated and based on a 3 tiered system of direct compensation, dependency and indemnity compensation and total disability based on individual unemployability.

Something has to be done as of now around 50% of all retiring and returning veterans are filing some form of disability claim.

A slap in the face to our veterans that truly need and deserve a quick resolution of their disability claim with approval, the care the deserve and money.

It is unfortunate, but I am forced to agree.

It isn't so much a case of, "I deserve more than you" on my part. It's a case of people just trying to get something for nothing.

I see it all the time. A lot.

Told you, I went to Miami with a guy who was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes while in the Marine Corps.

Of course, he was discharged. But Juvenile Diabetes is genetic. It isn't something you catch or is given to you by exposure to something. It's inherited. Period.

But he still goes to the VA and gets in line with the Vets that were exposed to Agent Orange and are losing their vision, need surgery, shots to the eye (they hurt) laser treatments (for PDR [prolific diabetic retinopathy]) etc.

He's also got Medicaid, Food Stamps, and a couple other freebies going for him.

But the VA is free. Medicaid isn't.

There's also the Medicare Part B deal going on.

A lot of Veterans are over age 65 and are on Medicare. But they opt out of the Medicare Part B program (saving them at least $100 a Month, IIRC) and use the VA instead.

A lot of them have little to nothing wrong with them caused by their Service to their Country but they keep pestering the VA until they get a disability rating and then -- It's all gravy.... Free!

I don't know what the solution is. I really don't.

More money? Don't know

Stricter guidelines? Don't see how. Once you start giving away free stuff, you can't hardly cut off the spigot.

Probably the best thing is just wait out the older Vets, like me, until we're gone.

We're the last of the Main cost to the VA -- Viet Nam vets.

And we're dying off fast. Real fast. Because of the problems and the exposures we faced.

Iraq/Asscrackistan Vets? Not so much, not so many.

Maybe refining the rules a little bit would help.

But with dimocraps -- You always gotta be careful.

What our resident dimocrap scum refuse to understand is that, you know that bill that Republicans shot down in February?

The one our resident dimocrap scum are complaining about?

It would have opened the flood gates to the EXACT abuse we're talking about here.

Senate Debates Bill to Extend Health Care to Vets | Military.com

Burr said he was in agreement with about 80 percent of the bill. He did not state which parts he backed, but he specifically hit a provision that would expand VA health care to veterans who do not have a service-connected disability.

These would be "veterans that are above the means testing threshold" for assistance, he said, "not people with low income or have a service-connected disability."

Under the law, veterans who qualify for health care under the Affordable Care Act through an exchange would be able to opt for VA health care, he said.

The North Carolina Republican said that expanding VA health care to so many more veterans would flood an already troubled VA system in which current veterans wait for appointments and some hospitals operate inefficiently.

dimocraps are scum.

No matter what they get involved in.... They're scum.

Always have been, always will be.

 

[Antares]

What's that? Your brilliance showing?

Nope, its you being shown to be the punk ass squirrel you are.

So lame. You have no chance. You and I generally have discussions regarding the field that you have devoted your career and life to......and I still kick your ass. You are a lightweight with a mediocre vocabulary.

Squirrel you don't have the mental capacity to kick franco's ass let alone anyone else's.

You have yet to bring anything relevant to any thread you enter, poor kid.

 

[TooTall]

Well, when it comes to the VA my experience since 1968 when my brother and his Nam brothers came home and to date, the VA SUCKS.
Biggest problem I see are veterans that have not much wrong with them at all making excessive demands on the system. They need to stay home and let the vets with real problems get the care they deserve.

According to who? You??????

Correct, according to me. I have been taking my brother to VA hospitals since he moved here in 1979.
Veterans are teaching each other how to build their disability cases with paperwork and the paperwork starts with visits to the doctor as often as they can. This is exactly how it works in plaintiff's cases in the private sector with all the plaintiff's lawyers running ads on TV. Go to a VA waiting room and see all the vets there and talk to the doctors on this.

And if you really are interested in facts, but I doubt it, Google law firms representing veterans to file for disability. They are all over the internet because it is taboo to discuss this issue of veterans filing claims with not much of anything wrong with them.
The disability ratings system is outdated and based on a 3 tiered system of direct compensation, dependency and indemnity compensation and total disability based on individual unemployability.

Something has to be done as of now around 50% of all retiring and returning veterans are filing some form of disability claim.

A slap in the face to our veterans that truly need and deserve a quick resolution of their disability claim with approval, the care the deserve and money.

I was worried that you were talking about me since I merely go to a VA clinic twice a year and get several Rx's filled by the VA. I wouldn't go but once a year, but because I have Type II diabetes the Doctor wants to see me every 6 months.

I agree completely with your view on disability claims. I blame the effing lawyers for doing a con job on the vets and the vets that don't deserve it for going along with the scam.