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My post is not a judgement on Trump or Flynn. I have no idea what the truth is and neither do any of you.And then they couldn't wait to damage Trump by publicizing it which tipped off the Russians to our surveillance.The obvious answer is that they were monitoring the Russian ambassador's calls, and Flynn got caught.
Dumb
All over a call that very likely happens with different world leaders by every incoming administration.
Yep, it's so routine that most incoming administrations routinely fire key officials within the first month over something routine.
It looks like we are going to get our own Capitol Hill version of Swamp people. Aaaaayeeeeee! It's not only time to drain the swamp but to hook every leaking low down critter and drag em out.
There's got to be a political version Troy Landry in Washington who can finally nail the leakers in the Intelligence community.
Laissez les bons temps rouler baby!
āAny intelligence agency cannot listen to Americansā phone calls,ā Nunes told reporters Tuesday night. āIf thereās inadvertent collection that you know is overseas thereās a whole process in place for that.ā
He explained, āItās pretty clear thatās not the case, so then they could have been listening to someone else and inadvertently picked up an American.
If that happens, thereās a whole process in place to where they have to immediately get rid of the information unless itās like high level national security issue and then someone would have to unmask the name ā someone at the highest levels.ā
āSo in this case it would be General Flynn and then how did that happen. T
hen if they did that, then how does all that get out to the public which is another leak of classified information,ā Nunes added.
āIām pretty sure the FBI didnāt have a warrant on Michael Flynn.ā
GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
Read more: GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
The Russians were hacking our political institutions and trying very hard to influence our election thru countless fake news stories... the Russian envoys stationed here in the USA were part of that operation. Our Intelligence communities routinely wiretap foreign envoys and those that are deep seeded enemies even more so....if our Intelligence community did not monitor them, it would be negligent!
NO ONE was wire tapping Flynn, that is utter bull crud.
God stupefied Flynn when he made that call to the Russian Ambassador the day the sanctions and booting was issued...Flynn was aware that we wiretap their phones, but I guess he forgot ....
just like he ''forgot'' he spoke to the Russians about Trump reneging the sanctions when he takes power and not to over react to Obama's actions against them.
Flynn did this on Trump's behalf more than likely.
Why he intentionally lied to pence is just nonsensical....why Trump allowed the lie to stay out there is uncomprehendable as well....?
All we have is a bunch of whoah from the intel community. There is however not a single shred of actual evidence supporting what they say.
My post is not a judgement on Trump or Flynn. I have no idea what the truth is and neither do any of you.And then they couldn't wait to damage Trump by publicizing it which tipped off the Russians to our surveillance.The obvious answer is that they were monitoring the Russian ambassador's calls, and Flynn got caught.
Dumb
All over a call that very likely happens with different world leaders by every incoming administration.
Yep, it's so routine that most incoming administrations routinely fire key officials within the first month over something routine.
What I do know is the left appears to be willing to burn the country to the ground if that's what it takes to make Trump look bad.
What laws did Flynn break? No one has seen a transcript. He's not been charged with anything.
This type of surveillance is highly questionable. It should be investigated.
You American patriot fraud.Tinydancer is a stinking commie agent sent to the USA to support Trump.It looks like we are going to get our own Capitol Hill version of Swamp people. Aaaaayeeeeee! It's not only time to drain the swamp but to hook every leaking low down critter and drag em out.
There's got to be a political version Troy Landry in Washington who can finally nail the leakers in the Intelligence community.
Laissez les bons temps rouler baby!
āAny intelligence agency cannot listen to Americansā phone calls,ā Nunes told reporters Tuesday night. āIf thereās inadvertent collection that you know is overseas thereās a whole process in place for that.ā
He explained, āItās pretty clear thatās not the case, so then they could have been listening to someone else and inadvertently picked up an American.
If that happens, thereās a whole process in place to where they have to immediately get rid of the information unless itās like high level national security issue and then someone would have to unmask the name ā someone at the highest levels.ā
āSo in this case it would be General Flynn and then how did that happen. T
hen if they did that, then how does all that get out to the public which is another leak of classified information,ā Nunes added.
āIām pretty sure the FBI didnāt have a warrant on Michael Flynn.ā
GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
Read more: GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
We need Joseph McCarthy back to root out the stinking Commies and send them back to Russia.
We cannot be fooled by these people posing as right wing, white nationalists.
THEY ARE COMMIES.Send them back where they belong.
You sound like that guy that farts, then blames the dog.
Sick commie doing what sick commies do I guess.
You learned well from your Ruskie trainers.
BRAVO.
leak or arrest him for breaking federal law, the Logan Act....maybe they thought leaking 'something's up', without leaking the actual conversation, after giving the President 2 weeks to do something, would be better than arresting the president's national security adviser on national tv.?well, set your personal fears aside, and let us have an open, independent, investigation. Tell your representative!then please tell your congress critters you want a special investigation, done in the open, for the American citizens to have access!!!
I would love that. I fear that the progressives heads would explode when it was revealed who was actually behind the leaks however.
It APPEARS that partisans in the Intel Community are actually running a covert operation to destabilize and delegitimize the election. That's the only way that all these "leaks" and daily disinformation is stoking the news cycle.
What you see publicly is that this is a DOMESTIC INSURGENCY and not necessarily a foreign one because of the # of agencies COOPERATING in these leaks and disinformation. And the fear I personally have is that the public is YET to see is the YEARS and MOUNTAINS of comprising, embarrassing, and bomb-making material that the 2 corrupt parties have bottled up in the Intel agencies. They've used this blackmail against EACH OTHER to hobble the operation, honesty and efficiency of our govt. And in EFFECT -- most of the current leadership and past party leadership would be collateral damage if this mountain of shit ever got released.
Leadership in America is now compromised in a way that any normal official in a position of power would LOSE their clearances instantaneously. Not just Gen Flynn..
And if by CHANCE -- Russia decided to STOKE an all-out destabilization, my opinion is, their PREFERRED outcome would be to contribute to the rise of a true "socialist friendly" party. One that continues to lurch farther left and is friendly to the idea of re-creating the OLD Soviet Union that Putin desires.
But that's just me talking.. We might yet find out why Saddam was REALLY hated by both BillyJeff Clinton and the Bushes. Or who was behind those anthrax attacks or even ---- who killed JFK..
Or maybe our intelligencies are composed of heroes who have risked their lives to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and know a dangerous autocrat when they see one.
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Heroes dont leak intel intercepts on incoming admins to the public. Heroes don't leak DAILY propaganda obtained by intel sources and methods to keep the "russian threat" in the news cycle.
This type of surveillance is highly questionable. It should be investigated.
The obvious answer is that they were monitoring the Russian ambassador's calls, and Flynn got caught.
Diplomatic communication from incoming appointees is not supposed to trigger transcripts, collection and RELEASE to the fucking MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC. Some one did very wrong here.
Flynn compromised himself by misrepresenting the conversation to his bosses. BUT the OUT-GOING Intel folks were fishing and conducting surveillance on the Trump team. THAT'S how it was found out. You NEED to resign if you let yourself become compromised to blackmail -- But SEVERAL folks need to go live in Levenworth for running this covert operation and LEAKING it public. .
It warms my heart to hear you righties finally wanting to obey the laws - when Republican necks are in the noose. Funny...
leak or arrest him for breaking federal law, the Logan Act....maybe they thought leaking 'something's up', without leaking the actual conversation, after giving the President 2 weeks to do something, would be better than arresting the president's national security adviser on national tv.?well, set your personal fears aside, and let us have an open, independent, investigation. Tell your representative!I would love that. I fear that the progressives heads would explode when it was revealed who was actually behind the leaks however.
It APPEARS that partisans in the Intel Community are actually running a covert operation to destabilize and delegitimize the election. That's the only way that all these "leaks" and daily disinformation is stoking the news cycle.
What you see publicly is that this is a DOMESTIC INSURGENCY and not necessarily a foreign one because of the # of agencies COOPERATING in these leaks and disinformation. And the fear I personally have is that the public is YET to see is the YEARS and MOUNTAINS of comprising, embarrassing, and bomb-making material that the 2 corrupt parties have bottled up in the Intel agencies. They've used this blackmail against EACH OTHER to hobble the operation, honesty and efficiency of our govt. And in EFFECT -- most of the current leadership and past party leadership would be collateral damage if this mountain of shit ever got released.
Leadership in America is now compromised in a way that any normal official in a position of power would LOSE their clearances instantaneously. Not just Gen Flynn..
And if by CHANCE -- Russia decided to STOKE an all-out destabilization, my opinion is, their PREFERRED outcome would be to contribute to the rise of a true "socialist friendly" party. One that continues to lurch farther left and is friendly to the idea of re-creating the OLD Soviet Union that Putin desires.
But that's just me talking.. We might yet find out why Saddam was REALLY hated by both BillyJeff Clinton and the Bushes. Or who was behind those anthrax attacks or even ---- who killed JFK..
Or maybe our intelligencies are composed of heroes who have risked their lives to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and know a dangerous autocrat when they see one.
KremlinGate Enters Uncharted Waters as Russian Links Overwhelm DC
Evan McMullin: President Donald Trump Is a 'Domestic Enemy'
Heroes dont leak intel intercepts on incoming admins to the public. Heroes don't leak DAILY propaganda obtained by intel sources and methods to keep the "russian threat" in the news cycle.
REMEMBER, the intel community KNOWS what is on these recordings of flynn's and the russian ambassador's....
They take an oath to protect us from foreign and DOMESTIC threats...
and the senate intelligence community or an independent committee investigating, will know as well, hopefully, and can sort this all out....
I DO NOT LIKE all of these leaks at all....I've NEVER seen anything like it!!! HOWEVER, this only sets the alarm off in my head that this is more, MUCH MORE than sour grapes on Obama being gone or Hillary losing...
Be very SPECIFIC and cite for us ANY law Flynn broke.precisely!The obvious answer is that they were monitoring the Russian ambassador's calls, and Flynn got caught.
It looks like we are going to get our own Capitol Hill version of Swamp people. Aaaaayeeeeee! It's not only time to drain the swamp but to hook every leaking low down critter and drag em out.
There's got to be a political version Troy Landry in Washington who can finally nail the leakers in the Intelligence community.
Laissez les bons temps rouler baby!
āAny intelligence agency cannot listen to Americansā phone calls,ā Nunes told reporters Tuesday night. āIf thereās inadvertent collection that you know is overseas thereās a whole process in place for that.ā
He explained, āItās pretty clear thatās not the case, so then they could have been listening to someone else and inadvertently picked up an American.
If that happens, thereās a whole process in place to where they have to immediately get rid of the information unless itās like high level national security issue and then someone would have to unmask the name ā someone at the highest levels.ā
āSo in this case it would be General Flynn and then how did that happen. T
hen if they did that, then how does all that get out to the public which is another leak of classified information,ā Nunes added.
āIām pretty sure the FBI didnāt have a warrant on Michael Flynn.ā
GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
Read more: GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
My understanding is that they were not tapping General Flynn's phone but rather the Russian. Something General Flynn would have known. They would not have needed a warrant for Flynn since he was not the subject of the tap.
link?So we should arrest Obama and all his people from 2008 cause they did the SAME thing. Or is that different?It says it where is it specifically applies to private citizens, the new admin is not private citizens dumb ass.and it says that WHERE in the Logan Act?The Logan act does NOT apply to an incoming administration you retard.he broke
the logan act
We have ONE President at a time in this Nation.
Who was Logan, and why was the Logan act created? Logan was a US Senator silly one, and he was a private citizen.
George Logan (September 9, 1753 ā April 9, 1821) was an American physician, farmer, legislator and politician from Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. He served in the Pennsylvania state legislature and represented Pennsylvania in the United States Senate.
The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.
leak or arrest him for breaking federal law, the Logan Act....maybe they thought leaking 'something's up', without leaking the actual conversation, after giving the President 2 weeks to do something, would be better than arresting the president's national security adviser on national tv.?well, set your personal fears aside, and let us have an open, independent, investigation. Tell your representative!
It APPEARS that partisans in the Intel Community are actually running a covert operation to destabilize and delegitimize the election. That's the only way that all these "leaks" and daily disinformation is stoking the news cycle.
What you see publicly is that this is a DOMESTIC INSURGENCY and not necessarily a foreign one because of the # of agencies COOPERATING in these leaks and disinformation. And the fear I personally have is that the public is YET to see is the YEARS and MOUNTAINS of comprising, embarrassing, and bomb-making material that the 2 corrupt parties have bottled up in the Intel agencies. They've used this blackmail against EACH OTHER to hobble the operation, honesty and efficiency of our govt. And in EFFECT -- most of the current leadership and past party leadership would be collateral damage if this mountain of shit ever got released.
Leadership in America is now compromised in a way that any normal official in a position of power would LOSE their clearances instantaneously. Not just Gen Flynn..
And if by CHANCE -- Russia decided to STOKE an all-out destabilization, my opinion is, their PREFERRED outcome would be to contribute to the rise of a true "socialist friendly" party. One that continues to lurch farther left and is friendly to the idea of re-creating the OLD Soviet Union that Putin desires.
But that's just me talking.. We might yet find out why Saddam was REALLY hated by both BillyJeff Clinton and the Bushes. Or who was behind those anthrax attacks or even ---- who killed JFK..
Or maybe our intelligencies are composed of heroes who have risked their lives to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and know a dangerous autocrat when they see one.
KremlinGate Enters Uncharted Waters as Russian Links Overwhelm DC
Evan McMullin: President Donald Trump Is a 'Domestic Enemy'
Heroes dont leak intel intercepts on incoming admins to the public. Heroes don't leak DAILY propaganda obtained by intel sources and methods to keep the "russian threat" in the news cycle.
REMEMBER, the intel community KNOWS what is on these recordings of flynn's and the russian ambassador's....
They take an oath to protect us from foreign and DOMESTIC threats...
and the senate intelligence community or an independent committee investigating, will know as well, hopefully, and can sort this all out....
I DO NOT LIKE all of these leaks at all....I've NEVER seen anything like it!!! HOWEVER, this only sets the alarm off in my head that this is more, MUCH MORE than sour grapes on Obama being gone or Hillary losing...
C'mon. I'm here to learn and discuss reality. What the hell were they gonna "ARREST him for the Logan Act"??
You fucking jerking my chain? Dennis Rodman goes to N. Fucking Korea to chum with Kim Jung Insane and that's NOT Logan act? Has ANYONE ever been prosecuted under the Logan act?
Gen Flynn was RECENTLY the TOP SPY for the Pentagon as head of the DIAgency. You think he's a pawn of Putin? Get real...
What happened here is what happens in police states.
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.
"In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports).
John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term.
The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.
Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern.
"There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said.
"From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."
Get the fucking bastards!
The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn
So you're saying that Flynn didn't try to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russia?
This type of surveillance is highly questionable. It should be investigated.
Every major country in the world does the same thing. Nothing whatsoever the least bit questionable about our spies listening into foreign diplomats or whoever. General Flynn would have known his conversation was being recorded, both by America listing to the Russian and Russia listening General Flynn and their own people as well.
It looks like we are going to get our own Capitol Hill version of Swamp people. Aaaaayeeeeee! It's not only time to drain the swamp but to hook every leaking low down critter and drag em out.
There's got to be a political version Troy Landry in Washington who can finally nail the leakers in the Intelligence community.
Laissez les bons temps rouler baby!
āAny intelligence agency cannot listen to Americansā phone calls,ā Nunes told reporters Tuesday night. āIf thereās inadvertent collection that you know is overseas thereās a whole process in place for that.ā
He explained, āItās pretty clear thatās not the case, so then they could have been listening to someone else and inadvertently picked up an American.
If that happens, thereās a whole process in place to where they have to immediately get rid of the information unless itās like high level national security issue and then someone would have to unmask the name ā someone at the highest levels.ā
āSo in this case it would be General Flynn and then how did that happen. T
hen if they did that, then how does all that get out to the public which is another leak of classified information,ā Nunes added.
āIām pretty sure the FBI didnāt have a warrant on Michael Flynn.ā
GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
Read more: GOP Intel Chair: āPretty Sure FBI Didnāt Have Warrantā To Record Flynn
My understanding is that they were not tapping General Flynn's phone but rather the Russian. Something General Flynn would have known. They would not have needed a warrant for Flynn since he was not the subject of the tap.
Well it appears that the tapping of Flynn continued without a warrant. Look at the number of times the leaks refer to "conversations"
Freaking plural.
Some are suggesting that there were more than one intel agency involved as well and that even goes to the DOJ under Obama with Yates.
This is going to be like peeling an onion.
leak or arrest him for breaking federal law, the Logan Act....maybe they thought leaking 'something's up', without leaking the actual conversation, after giving the President 2 weeks to do something, would be better than arresting the president's national security adviser on national tv.?It APPEARS that partisans in the Intel Community are actually running a covert operation to destabilize and delegitimize the election. That's the only way that all these "leaks" and daily disinformation is stoking the news cycle.
What you see publicly is that this is a DOMESTIC INSURGENCY and not necessarily a foreign one because of the # of agencies COOPERATING in these leaks and disinformation. And the fear I personally have is that the public is YET to see is the YEARS and MOUNTAINS of comprising, embarrassing, and bomb-making material that the 2 corrupt parties have bottled up in the Intel agencies. They've used this blackmail against EACH OTHER to hobble the operation, honesty and efficiency of our govt. And in EFFECT -- most of the current leadership and past party leadership would be collateral damage if this mountain of shit ever got released.
Leadership in America is now compromised in a way that any normal official in a position of power would LOSE their clearances instantaneously. Not just Gen Flynn..
And if by CHANCE -- Russia decided to STOKE an all-out destabilization, my opinion is, their PREFERRED outcome would be to contribute to the rise of a true "socialist friendly" party. One that continues to lurch farther left and is friendly to the idea of re-creating the OLD Soviet Union that Putin desires.
But that's just me talking.. We might yet find out why Saddam was REALLY hated by both BillyJeff Clinton and the Bushes. Or who was behind those anthrax attacks or even ---- who killed JFK..
Or maybe our intelligencies are composed of heroes who have risked their lives to protect this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and know a dangerous autocrat when they see one.
KremlinGate Enters Uncharted Waters as Russian Links Overwhelm DC
Evan McMullin: President Donald Trump Is a 'Domestic Enemy'
Heroes dont leak intel intercepts on incoming admins to the public. Heroes don't leak DAILY propaganda obtained by intel sources and methods to keep the "russian threat" in the news cycle.
REMEMBER, the intel community KNOWS what is on these recordings of flynn's and the russian ambassador's....
They take an oath to protect us from foreign and DOMESTIC threats...
and the senate intelligence community or an independent committee investigating, will know as well, hopefully, and can sort this all out....
I DO NOT LIKE all of these leaks at all....I've NEVER seen anything like it!!! HOWEVER, this only sets the alarm off in my head that this is more, MUCH MORE than sour grapes on Obama being gone or Hillary losing...
C'mon. I'm here to learn and discuss reality. What the hell were they gonna "ARREST him for the Logan Act"??
You fucking jerking my chain? Dennis Rodman goes to N. Fucking Korea to chum with Kim Jung Insane and that's NOT Logan act? Has ANYONE ever been prosecuted under the Logan act?
Gen Flynn was RECENTLY the TOP SPY for the Pentagon as head of the DIAgency. You think he's a pawn of Putin? Get real...
Your analogy is total without merit. Dennis Rodman was never representing the United States and was never negotiating anything with North Korea on behalf of the United States.
